05-03-2003 05:03									#1
	3rd Official Top Games Poll Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Vote here for your top games from the 1998-2000 period.

You can vote for any pc, console or arcade games that were released during this period. Votes for officially-released expansion packs are also allowed, provided they were released during 1998-2000. Mods and other add-ons are not counted seperately, but may be mentioned for general interest purposes.

You have 100 to play with in this round. You can allocate them to the games of your choice any way you wish, so long as no game gets more than 25 points, or less than 1. You can nominate a maximum of 20 different titles, no minimum.

The updated list will be on the last page of this thread.

Useful links:
http://www.gonegold.com/golden/1998.shtml
http://www.gonegold.com/golden/1999.shtml
http://www.gonegold.com/golden/2000.shtml

Previous Top Games Polls:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=72760
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=61265

code:
Rank	Game / Series						Total Points

1	SMAC							440

2	Civilization II MP Gold					175

3	Fallout II						167

4	Civilization: Call to Power				150

5	SMACX							140

6	Heros of Might & Magic III				104

7	Deus Ex							95
7	Starcraft						95

9	Planescape: Torment					90

10	Baldur's Gate II					87

11	Age of Wonders						85

12	Baldur's Gate						82

13	Unreal Tournament					81

14	Rollercoaster Tycoon					79

15	Worms Armageddon					76

16	Half-Life						70

17	Civilization II: Test of Time				68

18	Age of Kings						67

19	System Shock II						60

20	Sims							56

21	Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun			55

22	Championship Manager III				50
22	Grand Theft Auto II					50
22	Imperialism II						50
22	Quake III						50

26	Diablo II						47
26	Railroad Tycoon II					47

28	Warlords Battlecry					45

29	Civilization: Call to Power II				44

30	Commandos: Beyond the Call of Duty			43

31	Settlers III - The Quest of the Amazons			35

32	Thief: The Dark Project					30

33	Sid Meier's Gettysburg					28

34	Simcity 3000						27

35	Final Fantasy Tactics					25
35	Majesty							25
35	Metal Gear Solid					25
35	Soul Calibur						25
35	South Park Love Shack					25
35	Thief II						25
35	Total Annihilation: Kingdoms				25

42	Caesar III						23
42	Starfleet Command					23

44	Heart of Darkness					21

45	Escape Velocity						20
45	Falcon 4.0						20
45	MilitariZm						20
45	Quake II						20
45	Sanitarium						20

50	Commandos: Behind Enemy Lines				18

51	Hollywood Mogul						15
51	Panzer General 3D Assault				15
51	Warlords III						15

54	Imperium Galactica II					12
54	Messiah							12
54	Risk II							12

57	European Air War					10
57	Jagged Alliance II					10
57	MindRover						10
57	Pharaoh							10
57	Rage of Mages II					10
57	Re-volt							10
57	Shogun							10
57	Starship Troopers					10

65	Dark Side of the Moon					8
65	Redguard						8
65	The Longest Journey					8

68	Urban Chaos						7

69	Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds				6
69	Shadow Watch						6

71	Carmageddon TDR 2000					5
71	Emergency: Fighter for Life				5
71	Gabriel Knight						5
71	Hitman I						5
71	Interstate 82						5
71	Lemmings Revolution					5
71	Mob Rules						5
71	Rally Championship					5
71	Vampire: The Masquerade					5

80	Age of Empires: Rise of Rome				4
80	Airline Tycoon						4
80	Black Dahlia						4
80	Star Trek: Birth of the Federation			4

84	Settlers III						2

85	Alice							1
85	Seven Kingdoms II					1

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 01-06-2003 at 13:10

	05-03-2003 05:04									#2
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Who has voted (and points left to spend):

ADG (0)
Andermagne (0)
August Borms (0)
Big Crunch (0)
Bkeela (2)
Calc II (75)
CygnusZ (0)
DarkCloud (0)
DrSpike (0)
Edan (0)
Felch X (0)
FlameFlash (0)
Frozzy (0)
Hakkapeliitta (0)
Harry Seldon (0)
jdd2007 (0)
lord of the mark (0)
Maquiladora (0)
MariOne (69)
Master Zen (0)
Mercator (0)
MrBaggins (0)
MrsSkanky (75)
Muxec (0)
panag (75)
pg (0)
quantum_mechani (15)
Scg (40)
Scouse Gits[1] (75)
Skanky Burns (0)
Solver (20)
St Leo (0)
Static23 (0)
Tassadar5000 (75)
The Pioneer (0)
thinkingamer (0)
Tuomerehu (2)
Tuberski (0)
Urban Ranger (0)
War of Art (0)

This post will be updated as we go along. The number in the bracket shows how many points are available for each voter.

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 01-06-2003 at 13:06

	05-03-2003 05:06									#3
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My votes:
Deus Ex - 25
Thief: The Dark Project - 25
System Shock 2 - 15
Thief 2 - 15
Starship Troopers - 10
Diablo 2 - 5
Sims - 5

	05-03-2003 06:17									#4
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Imperialism II - 25
Warlords Battlecry - 25
Age of Wonders - 20
Civilization II: Test of Time - 2
Seven Kingdoms II - 1
Total Annihilation: Kingdoms - 25 (sympathy vote)
Heroes of Might & Magic III - 2

Last edited by St Leo on 05-03-2003 at 07:39

	05-03-2003 06:27									#5
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Sorry, the maximum number of points allowed for a single game is 25. Your vote for Imperialism II will have to change.

	05-03-2003 07:05									#6
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Diablo 2: 20
SMAC: 15
Planescape:Torment: 20
Age of Wonders: 15
CTP:5
Fallout II: 25

ACK! = 1000 pts.

Last edited by Tuberski on 06-03-2003 at 04:48

	05-03-2003 08:34									#7
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Sanitarium: 15
Starfleet Command :13
RollerCoaster Tycoon: 11
Dark Side of the Moon: 8
Redguard: 8
Shadow Watch: 6
Unreal Tournament 6
Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds: 6
Gabriel Knight :5
Emergency: Fighter for life 5
Blade Runner: 5
Airline Tycoon 4
Sims 4
Black Dahlia: 4

	05-03-2003 08:38									#8
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Alpha Centauri - 25
Deus Ex - 20
Diablo 2 - 20
Unreal Tournament - 10
Planescape: Torment - 10
GTA 2 - 10
C&C Tiberian Sun - 5

	05-03-2003 13:28									#9
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MindRover: 10
Age of Wonders: 25
Panzer General 3D Assault: 15
SMAC: 25
SMACX: 25

	05-03-2003 14:51									#10
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The Settlers III - The Quest of the Amazons - 25
RollerCoaster Tycoon - 14
Re-volt - 10
The Longest Journey - 8
Urban Chaos - 7
Carmageddon TDR 2000 - 5
Mob rules - 5 (Would have got much more, if MP was done much better)
Interstate 82 - 5
UT - 5
GTA 2 - 5
Lemmings Revolution - 5
Risk II - 5

	05-03-2003 15:28									#11
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Quake3: 25
Unreal tournament: 15

SMAC: 20

Deus Ex: 20
System shock 2: 20

	05-03-2003 15:46									#12
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The only game I can honestly cast a vote for in that time interval:

Alpha Centauri (SMAC): 25
EDIT: Oh, sorry, I forgot:
Alien Crossfire (SMAX): 5

I also demand that we are allowed negative points! The 100 points pool and allocation rules should remain unchanged, only that you can add a minus sign in front of any of your votes
In alternative, you might restrict the number of negs / quota of 100 allowed for all your negs / limit for a single neg lower than limit for a normal vote...

That is, if you really want to speak against some game that was a real shame, you'll have less points to give to those you loved.

Should this ever get accepted , here's my

Civ: Test of Time (ToT): -25

	05-03-2003 15:48									#13
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Heroes of Might and Magic III: 25
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri: 25
Civilization: Call To Power: 20
Warlords 3: 10
Age Of Kings: 10
Rally Championship: 5
Imperialism 2: 5

	05-03-2003 15:58									#14
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Hey, Blade Runner was released in 97 (Edan's vote).
Otherwise I'd have given 5 to it too. And 25 to Riven which was released in 97 as well....

	05-03-2003 16:22									#15
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Sorry, only games released between 1998 and 2000 are included in this poll. (Have to leave something for the next poll )
As such, Edan's vote for Blade Runner is not included.

Also, no negative scores. I'll leave them for whoever starts a "Worst games" poll.

DrSpike: That was Deus Ex - GOTY edition.

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 05-03-2003 at 16:48

	05-03-2003 16:31									#16
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Also, didn't Deus Ex appear in the last vote?

	05-03-2003 16:45									#17
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Morrowind 25
Civ2 SP 25
Civ2 MPE 25
Black Nova Traders 10

Spoils vote for remaining 15

SG[1]

	05-03-2003 17:01									#18
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i'm too lazy to check if these are from the right time period but since other people voted for them here are mine...

smac - 25
q3 - 25(cd says 1999)
fallout - 25
deus ex - 25(cd says year 2000)

morrowind cd says 2002.

	05-03-2003 17:13									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Morrowind 25 Civ2 SP 25 Civ2 MPE 25 Black Nova Traders 10 Spoils vote for remaining 15 SG[1]

MPE is ok but surely civ2 SP was before '98?

	05-03-2003 17:41									#20
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Yes, Morrowind is definately out of this poll's scope.
As is Fallout. Votes for Fallout (Tuberski & pg) will be given to Fallout II unless you request otherwise.

I think Gabriel Knight III is the only one of its series released between 1998-2000, so Edan's vote will go to that. As mentioned before, Blade Runner is invalid.

Scouse Gits: Your only valid vote was for Civ2 MP Gold.

Updating list once again.

	05-03-2003 18:00									#21
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SB, it's NOT Planescape "Tournament"

	05-03-2003 18:06									#22
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Hmmm... I don't know if I own CivIIMGE, I remember that a former colleague brought at work a "games collection" CD with that in it, installed it in our IT lab and I "tutored" him over the LAN for a couple of months....
Can't recall whether I have or ever had a copy of that CD...
It was a nice novelty, the only time I could play Civ MP. Although the game was pretty much the same, as far as I could see....

I think it deserves 1 point from me

	05-03-2003 18:26									#23
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Complete list is available on the last page of this thread (assuming 20 posts per page).

Last edited by Skanky Burns on 11-03-2003 at 15:07

	05-03-2003 19:37									#24
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quote: Originally posted by MariOne Hey, Blade Runner was released in 97 (Edan's vote).

Oops. I thought I checked yesterday that it was 1998, but seems I was wrong. Can those votes go to Sanitarium, then?

And yes, I meant GK3.

	06-03-2003 02:00									#25
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Smac - 25
Smacx - 25
Starcraft - 25

Nothing else comes to mind

	06-03-2003 04:46									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Yes, Morrowind is definately out of this poll's scope. As is Fallout. Votes for Fallout (Tuberski & pg) will be given to Fallout II unless you request otherwise. I think Gabriel Knight III is the only one of its series released between 1998-2000, so Edan's vote will go to that. As mentioned before, Blade Runner is invalid. Scouse Gits: Your only valid vote was for Civ2 MP Gold. Updating list once again.

Fallout II is fine with me.

I just bunched the 2 together anyway.

ACK!

	06-03-2003 04:55									#27
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code:

Starcraft (Broodwars?)	25
Commandos (BtCoD?)	25
Civ 2 MP		15
CtP (1 or 2)		10
Settlers 3		10
Imperialism 2		10
Risk 2			5

	06-03-2003 04:57									#28
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My updated votes:

Diablo 2: 20
SMAC: 15
Planescape:Torment: 20
Age of Wonders: 15
CTP:5
Fallout II: 25

ACK! = 1000 pts.

	06-03-2003 11:26									#29
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giving those points to fallout 2 is fine. while not as good as the original it was still very good and i can't think of anything else to replace it with anyways.

	06-03-2003 21:38									#30
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BTW Skanky, you may want to merge my choices with questions marks with games of the same type (e.g Broodwars with Starcraft - they are in effect the same game). I don't know when the Commandos and Starcraft games came out, so I put the expansion pack names in in case the main games came out pre-98.