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ceroomaster
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Casnewydd, Cymru
Aug 2002
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The North Korean newspaper snippets amused me. Another reminder that it is not good and evil that seperates the USA from it's enemies- but their different viewpoints.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:26
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It's like corporate mentality run wild. The huge chain store I work for keeps us in the dark and feeds is you know what. They treat us like crap, but once in a while they'll throw a kind of happy rally thing. All the ass kissers go, I don't. So many people quit going to the things that they started giving away gift certificates to get you to go. The store director can get in trouble if not enough employees participate. If he could do something nasty to the ones who never go I;m sure he would.
The NK people get that on a national scale, but if they don't wear the company slogan, Kims picture, they get dead...or something nasty, whatever. You wear the pin, you go to the rally, you do what you're told. You kiss ass as a way of preserving your life.
Some smart asses complain about freedom..."freedom, yeah right, freedom to do what?"
They piss me off. So do ass kissers.
Great site MM, educational.
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The Mad Monk
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of Ice Cream
Mar 2000
time: 23:26
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I'm interested in knowing if it changes, or reinforces, the reader's perception of North Korea. I, for one, am convinced that this guy is more dangerous than Hussein, if only because of the utter lack of 'bad thinking' apparent within the populace. Any kind of war would not be pretty.
If the cult mindset really is so pronounced, do the South Koreans who want reunification really know what they're getting into? Considering that North Koreans really don't consider the South or Japan to be anything other than puppets of the United States, it seems that it might be a disaster of monumental proportions.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:26
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seeing this makes me kinda sad.
this is another wonderfully-written article by a korean-american.
a visit to north korea
besides, monk, you do realize most of the people they talked to are brainwashed victims, no?
once they get a taste of freedom, capitalism, luxury... i'm quite sure they'd come around.
that's not to say unification will be easy. it won't. but.
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Sprayber
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Dixie
Oct 2000
time: 23:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Q Cubed
22 million, over half of which are probably malnourished. the people in pyongyang, obviously, are more brainwashed... but as far as i can tell, it's populated mostly by loyalists. same with a lot of the tourist destinations.
it's like walking into a rpg, where everyone is programmed to say one thing, and do one thing, knowing nothing else...
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Do you see a way in which the pennisula can be unified peacefully? I think one of the questions MM asked, and I wondered myself, is how can all those people be brought out of that mindset without some kind of force or total collapse. Don't get me wrong, I don't think force should be used to settle the issue unless they attack first. Is there anyway you see reunification happening peacefully.
Do you think there is a chance of a German style reunification?
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
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quote:
Do you see a way in which the pennisula can be unified peacefully? I think one of the questions MM asked, and I wondered myself, is how can all those people be brought out of that mindset without some kind of force or total collapse. Don't get me wrong, I don't think force should be used to settle the issue unless they attack first. Is there anyway you see reunification happening peacefully.
Do you think there is a chance of a German style reunification? |
If by german-style reunification, you mean the collapse and fall of east germany?
that's probably how it'll happen with korea. i doubt that skorea's long term slow-and-steady reunification plan would ever hold, seeing as it has a timeframe of at least 10 years, and presumes a functioning nkorea. i also doubt that nkorea's only reunification, that of invading skorea, would also ever work out.
if it reunifies, it'll be with nkorea's collapse. and skorea will find itself struggling to deal with 22 million new citizens, trying to get them basic necessities, etc., etc., etc.
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Sprayber
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Dixie
Oct 2000
time: 23:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Q Cubed
If by german-style reunification, you mean the collapse and fall of east germany?
that's probably how it'll happen with korea. i doubt that skorea's long term slow-and-steady reunification plan would ever hold, seeing as it has a timeframe of at least 10 years, and presumes a functioning nkorea. i also doubt that nkorea's only reunification, that of invading skorea, would also ever work out.
if it reunifies, it'll be with nkorea's collapse. and skorea will find itself struggling to deal with 22 million new citizens, trying to get them basic necessities, etc., etc., etc. |
I suppose the SK Goverment would try to prevent most of them from migrating south. I can't even imagine all it would take to rehabilitate the north.
Question remains. Would China accept a Korea run from Seoul. Maybe if US troops were withdrawn they would accept it.
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ranskaldan
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Beijing ~ Singapore ~ Toronto ~ All hail to the new Rome
Sep 2001
time: 00:26
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Jeez...
And what do you think would happen if North Korea is cut adrift tomorrow? It's going to transform in a magical, miraculous wonderland?
Gimme a break. If North Korea implodes tomorrow it will spill its bloody guts all over China, SK and Japan.
This is what I find disturbing - proposals of ending the North Korean regime through bloody, violent, overnight means. If you want to get Seoul demolished quickly, that's the way to go.
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08-03-2003 15:14
I just wonder if such an obviously thorough case such as this could ever be fully broken. In the case of most cults and cult-like groups, the participants / victims have some frame of outside reference, which deprogramers can use as a lever to bring them back into the 'real world'. In this case, there is no such lever...and there are millions of them.
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