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Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
time: 14:26
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Blix 'hid smoking gun' from Britain and US
From James Bone in New York
BRITAIN and the United States will today press the chief UN weapons inspector to admit that he has found a “smoking gun” in Iraq. Such an admission could persuade swing voters on the Security Council to back the March 17 ultimatum.
The British and US ambassadors plan to demand that Hans Blix reveals more details of a huge undeclared Iraqi unmanned aircraft, the discovery of which he failed to mention in his oral report to Security Council foreign ministers on Friday. Its existence was only disclosed in a declassified 173-page document circulated by the inspectors at the end of the meeting — an apparent attempt by Dr Blix to hide the revelation to avoid triggering a war.
The discovery of the drone, which has a wingspan of 7.45 metres, will make it much easier for waverers on the Security Council to accept US and British arguments that Iraq has failed to meet UN demands that it disarm.
“It’s incredible,” a senior diplomat from a swing voter on the council said. “This report is going to have a clearly defined impact on the people who are wavering. It’s a biggie.”
An explicit report by Dr Blix of the discovery of an Iraqi violation would help the six swing voters — Angola, Cameroon, Chile, Guinea, Mexico and Pakistan — to explain a change of position to their publics.
Unlike the outlawed Al-Samoud 2 missile, which was declared as a purportedly legal weapon, the drone was not declared. It would be the first undeclared weapons programme found by the UN and is considered by British and US officials to be a “smoking gun”. |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...-605557,00.html
Why did Blix not mention this discovery in his oral report? It's hard to believe that he thought it was so insignificant as to not warrant a mention, as it is clear proof that Iraq's weapons declaration was a lie. What was Blix thinking? Will this sway the undecided members of the Security Council? It will be interesting to see how this plays out tomorrow. The plot is thickening...
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korn469
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Poetic Justic
Apr 1999
time: 00:26
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Its not BS at all. At the end of the Gulf War, we kicked his ass. He signed a peace agreement and agreed to disarm all his weapons of mass destruction. It was in the terms of his 'surrender' (IIRC). We dictated this, because we kicked HIS ass, and could dictate what ever the hell we wanted. He could have exiled himself, adn leave power, or he could live in power under our terms. He decided to live under our terms, but he is not. That is (one of the reasons) why we are going to oust the son of a ***** once in for all.
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we're doing it because it's easy, i'm not saying my friends in the military are going to an ice cream social in kuwait or anything, but iraq shouldn't be any harder than afganistan, i also agree that saddam is a despotic ruler who is a threat to his people and the people of those around him, but simply because we have more military might doesn't make it just for us to say "we can have nukes saddam but we can't" and that is why it is bs to me
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Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
time: 14:26
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By the way, would any of you have the balls to respond to the IAEA report as quoted in this thread? |
Gladly.
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The IAEA performance in Iraq has not been reassuring. Iraq learned early on that it could conceal a nuclear weapons program by cooperating with the IAEA. Khidhir Hamza, a senior Iraqi scientist who defected to the United States in 1994, wrote in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists that Saddam Hussein approved a deception-by-cooperation scheme in 1974. "Iraq was careful to avoid raising IAEA suspicions; an elaborate strategy was gradually developed to deceive and manipulate the agency," Hamza said.[6] The strategy worked. Iraq, as a signer of the 1968 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, was subject to IAEA inspections on all nuclear facilities. But IAEA's inspectors had failed to detect the Iraqi "Manhattan Project," which was discovered after the Gulf War by IAEA teams at sites identified by the U.N. Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM).
The IAEA's track record of missing evidence of Iraq's nuclear weapons program both predates and post-dates the Gulf War. In 1981, Israeli air strikes destroyed Iraq's nearly complete Osirak research reactor because Tel Aviv feared Iraq's plutonium-production capacity if the plant was allowed to start up. After the attack, IAEA inspector Roger Richter resigned from the agency to defend Israel's action. He had helped negotiate the IAEA's "safeguards" arrangement for the reactor and later told Congress that the agency had failed to win sufficient access to detect plutonium production for weapons.[7] In August 1990, only weeks after Iraq invaded Kuwait, IAEA safeguards director Jon Jennekens praised Iraqi cooperation with the IAEA as "exemplary," and said Iraq's nuclear experts "have made every effort to demonstrate that Iraq is a solid citizen" under the nonproliferation treaty.[8] |
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Its turf battle won, the IAEA continued to see things Iraq's way. In September 1992, after destruction of the nuclear-weapons plants found in the war's aftermath, Mauricio Zifferero, head of the IAEA's "Action Team" in Iraq, declared Iraq's nuclear program to be "at zero now. . . totallydormant." Zifferero explained that the Iraqis "have stated many times to us that they have decided at the higher political levels to stop these activities. This we have verified."[9]
But it eventually became clear that Iraq had concealed evidence of its continuing nuclear bomb program. In 1995, Saddam Hussein's son-in-law, Gen. Hussein Kamel, fled to Jordan and revealed that he had led a "crash program" just before the Gulf War to build a crude nuclear weapon out of IAEA-safeguarded, civilian nuclear fuel, as well as a program after the war to refine the design of nuclear warheads to fit Scud missiles. Iraqi officials insisted that Kamel's work was unauthorized, and they led IAEA officials to a large cache of documents at Kamel's farm that, the Iraqis said, proved Kamel had directed the projects without their knowledge.
The Kamel revelations refuted an IAEA claim, made in 1993 by Hans Blix, then Director General of the IAEA and currently head of the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), that "the Iraqis never touched the nuclear highly enriched uranium which was under our safeguards."[10] In fact, the Iraqis had cut the ends off of some HEU fuel rods, and were preparing to remove the material from French- and Russian-supplied research reactors for use in weapons when the allied bombing campaign interrupted the project.[11] The IAEA accepted a technically flawed claim by Iraqi officials that the bomb project would have been delayed by the need to further enrich the bomb-grade fuel for use in weapons.[12] Also, defector Hamza later made clear that Iraq could have made direct use of the material in a bomb within a few months. |
http://www.nci.org/new/iraq-ib.htm
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Kramerman
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UT, Austin - The live music capital of the world
Jun 2002
time: 23:26
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Originally posted by korn469
we're doing it because it's easy, i'm not saying my friends in the military are going to an ice cream social in kuwait or anything, but iraq shouldn't be any harder than afganistan, i also agree that saddam is a despotic ruler who is a threat to his people and the people of those around him, but simply because we have more military might doesn't make it just for us to say "we can have nukes saddam but we can't" and that is why it is bs to me |
well then, if he didnt want to rule iraq under those terms, he should have left power. but he agreed to those terms, and has broken that agreement. Now he must suffer the consequences. If we destroy an enemy, we have the right to dictate whatever terms we wish. That is why one doesnt wanna lose a war . That is why it is dangerous to go to war. Saddam shoulda thought twice before invading Kuwait, if he wanted to be in power, and develope WoMD.
kman
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10-03-2003 08:59
When they use their weapons, then we'll talk.
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