14-03-2003 06:14									#1
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Gender doesn't matter.

Let's say you're walking down the street, and you see a bigger person slapping the snot out of a littler person.

What do you do?

	14-03-2003 06:29									#2
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ill protect my friends, but not strangers.

	14-03-2003 06:31									#3
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Strangers are just friends you haven't met yet.

That's cool that you wouldn't abandon friends though.

	14-03-2003 06:35									#4
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Without knowing the situation it's tough to make the decision to intervene, I mean, for all you know the little guy raped the big guys sister.

	14-03-2003 06:56									#5
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It depends on alot of factors. Also, gender DOES matter. If a guy is slapping a woman around, I get involved. I've done so twice in my life, both times the guy backed down. One time when I was 17, in the army in Germany and the guy was much bigger, but he backed off, thank God. I was a skinny kid in the army, he would have kicked my ass. I think he was embarrassed.

If it's a child, I'd intervene.

A big guy pushing around a little guy, I don't know, depends. I'd wait to see if it ended perhaps. Sometimes just watching might be enough to break up a shoving match. A full blown fight, or a beating...depends on alot of things. Do I know one of them? Or, one of them might have a gun. Both could turn on me and attack...Just yelling, COPS! might be enough.

	14-03-2003 06:58									#6
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Some year ago I stopped a man hitting a girl. He was bigger than I. In 96 while at Disneyland, A white guy hit this Mexican and I jump into the middle of it so they could not hit each other without hitting me and then some other guys grab the white guy and I put my arms around the Mexican and pick him up and move him several feet away from where the others had taken the white guy. I told him to get his family and go. I then told the white guy to leave and he did. He was bigger than I also. I stand 5' 11 3/4" and at that time (age 52) weight about 220 to 230 lbs. I now weight 250. My wife saw all of it and was scared to dead that I would be hurt.
You do what you have to at the time.

	14-03-2003 07:03									#7
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Were it a friend, I'd intervene.

If a stranger, I'd get help ASAP, but can't say I'd intervene of the aggressor was bigger than me (which is likely, I'd say).

If it were a sworn enemy being beaten...well, maybe I'd walk a little slower to get help.

	14-03-2003 07:06									#8
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I've jumped in before and I've watched before. I don't know why I did what I did either time.

	14-03-2003 07:09									#9
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After recent events, which would you do now ?

And I STILL need to know what city to locate the boots.

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quote: Boris Godunov Prince New York, NY Aug 2001 time: 21:41 13-03-2003 18:03 link Were it a friend, I'd intervene. If a stranger, I'd get help ASAP, but can't say I'd intervene of the aggressor was bigger than me (which is likely, I'd say). If it were a sworn enemy being beaten...well, maybe I'd walk a little slower to get help. chegitz guevara King Jacksonville, FL Communist Party of Apolyton Jun 2000 time: 20:41 13-03-2003 18:06 link I've jumped in before and I've watched before. I don't know why I did what I did either time. SlowwHand King Dallas, Texas - Sí, Hablo Inglés. Sep 1999 time: 20:41 13-03-2003 18:09 link After recent events, which wold you do now ? And I STILL need to know what city to locate the boots.

I don't know about you three. Just in case were a big sign with your handle on it so that if I,m ever in the area where one of you are getting his a$$ kick I will know whether to help or not.

	14-03-2003 07:55									#11
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First, you tell me who you're helping, me or the mugger.

D

	14-03-2003 07:56									#12
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand After recent events, which wold you do now ? And I STILL need to know what city to locate the boots.

I'd be inclined to get involved.

As for what city the boots are in, doesn't really matter. Outside Florida's probably best, so I don't have to pay sales tax. It has to wait until after I see whether my contract is going to be renewed (three months). As for what kind, I want gator or rattler boots. And a Stetson. And maybe a belt.

	14-03-2003 07:59									#13
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Gender doesn't matter. Let's say you're walking down the street, and you see a bigger person slapping the snot out of a littler person. What do you do?

Shoot them both for disturbin' the peace and walk on.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand First, you tell me who you're helping, me or the mugger. D

Well I could not let a fellow Apolyton poster be hurt. I would miss some of his/her posts or threads, maybe.

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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I'd be inclined to get involved. As for what city the boots are in, doesn't really matter. Outside Florida's probably best, so I don't have to pay sales tax. It has to wait until after I see whether my contract is going to be renewed (three months). As for what kind, I want gator or rattler boots. And a Stetson. And maybe a belt.

Being from Texas, Sloww could probably round up a pair armidillo boots.


As for getting involved. Each situation is different. I've stopped fights between strangers and people I know but never had the occasion to stop one where two strangers are involved.

	14-03-2003 08:08									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Joseph Well I could not let a fellow Apolyton poster be hurt. I would miss some of his/her posts or threads, maybe.

Well, all righty then ! I like the sound of that.


Dillo boots. I don't know that they have those, yet.
We may have just found a need that needs to be filled.

	14-03-2003 08:12									#17
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We got 'dillos too.

	14-03-2003 08:20									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer It depends on alot of factors. Also, gender DOES matter. If a guy is slapping a woman around, I get involved. I've done so twice in my life, both times the guy backed down. One time when I was 17, in the army in Germany and the guy was much bigger, but he backed off, thank God. I was a skinny kid in the army, he would have kicked my ass. I think he was embarrassed. If it's a child, I'd intervene. A big guy pushing around a little guy, I don't know, depends. I'd wait to see if it ended perhaps. Sometimes just watching might be enough to break up a shoving match. A full blown fight, or a beating...depends on alot of things. Do I know one of them? Or, one of them might have a gun. Both could turn on me and attack...Just yelling, COPS! might be enough.

Why would you immediately jump in for a woman and not a man, are they not equal?

For me, I'd probably go and get help, just because I'm rather frail. Hopefully my brother and his bestfriend would be there, because they can kick just about anyone's ass.

	14-03-2003 08:30									#19
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It really depends on the situation, but in the past my response has usually been somewhere between options 1 and 2 (e.g. I'll say "What the **** is going on here?" because who knows, maybe the guy getting picked on really does deserve an ass-kicking...)

	14-03-2003 08:34									#20
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Unless I think there's a chance of one of them having weopons I'd definately do something, getting hit a few times won't kill me.

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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael Why would you immediately jump in for a woman and not a man, are they not equal?

Probably not.

	14-03-2003 08:51									#22
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There was only one time where my intervention was required.

When I was waiting for a bus suddenly there were six of these scrawny punks slapping a scrawny punk around. I bellowed at the group, "What are you doing?" They stopped, looked at me, and scattered. Even the punk who got kicked about fled.

	14-03-2003 09:01									#23
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What if it was a larger woman beating up a smaller woman? Would you intervene then?

	14-03-2003 10:12									#24
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I'd wait for them to start tearing clothes.

Seriously, if I saw two people fighting in the street I probably wouldn't get involved. I doubt I would be able to survive should they choose to pick on me instead.

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My assumption here was that the two people involved are sober. If it was a good old fashioned drunken brawl then I'd most likely pull up a chair and watch the fun.

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I'd get involved as soon as one of them didn't want to fight any more.

I've done it before. Luckily it's always been with little toughie teenagers. Never had to stand up to a biker or anything...

Sometimes all it takes is a look. I was waiting outside a club in a car one time when I saw this girl and a guy having a shouting match. She was crying and pushing him away. He was getting angry and looked like he was about to start slapping her around. I just opened the door, stood up and caught his eye. That was enough.

	14-03-2003 20:40									#28
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"Come into my web", said the spider to the fly.


Ok. Extrapolating* what we see here, taking it from micro to macro, this is what we're left with:

I rush in immediately. This isn't right. 6 31.58%
Wait until the littler person screams for help. 2 10.53%

Congratulations. You're like George Bush, and the majority of Americans.

Wait until the littler person screams for help. 2 10.53%
Watch the kicking around, and finally ask "Need A little help?'. 1 5.26%

Here we see Tony Blair and the majority of Britain.


Not my problem. I call the cops. 6

This puts you with nations like the Swiss.


Not my problem, and I leave the area. 2 10.53%

Germany


I watch. It's funny. The little person is getting smoked royally. 1 5.26%

And finally, the French. SO glad someone else is getting kicked to the curb.


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*1 : to infer (values of a variable in an unobserved interval) from values within an already observed interval
2 a : to project, extend, or expand (known data or experience) into an area not known or experienced so as to arrive at a usually conjectural knowledge of the unknown area b : to predict by projecting past experience or known data

	14-03-2003 20:42									#29
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What nation's playing with its banana?

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depends. friends get priority; strangers i'd make the decision on my current status at the time. if i were in an advantageous position, i'd offer assistance in clearing the matter up; if i were not, i'd watch matters develop more.

if it's someone i didn't like, such an occurence would elicit no reaction from me.