15-03-2003 00:21									#1
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This is very important to me. One of the disappointments I had with Civ3 was the atrocious in-game music, especially that obnoxious Kenny-G-esque light jazz crap in the modern era.

I loved the music in 4x games like Ascendancy and IG2. So how is it here? And how easy is it to mod, if at all? (In Civ3, at least I could change the mp3s...)

	15-03-2003 01:06									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov This is very important to me. One of the disappointments I had with Civ3 was the atrocious in-game music, especially that obnoxious Kenny-G-esque light jazz crap in the modern era.

But I thought crap tailored to be the least offensive to the greatest number of people defined artistic production in the modern age. Ergo, the Kenny G music was atmospheric

	15-03-2003 02:41									#3
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All the music is meant to sound like a Star Trek type sound track. Classical instrumental.

	15-03-2003 04:08									#4
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Can we get any clips?

	15-03-2003 07:10									#5
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Who's creating the music? By classical instumental do you mean it sounds like that or that you actually brought in an orchestra?

	15-03-2003 07:15									#6
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Just mean it's instrumental. There's a trailer out right now that has some music in it:

http://storage.stardock.com/files/g...ailer_small.zip

	16-03-2003 01:10									#7
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I thought the music of Civ3 was an excellent idea. Unfortunately, they didn't have enough of it.

Cool trailer, Draginol.

	16-03-2003 09:55									#8
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You can't tell me you liked the modern era stuff though...blargh!

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It's mood music, Boris! I just thought that they should have had more styles--a true progression. Why did the creater of CPU Bach not pay more attention to the music?

Anyway, the music in the trailer was pretty good.

	17-03-2003 08:54									#10
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Mood music...what the hell kinda mood is that fake lite jazz stuff gonna put me in that relates to Civ3?

Naw, the modern era stuff should have been like a symphonic film score, similar to John Williams and such.

	17-03-2003 15:39									#11
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The modern era stuff should have been by Stockhausen, Berio and Boulez. Perfect accompianment to a nuclear war, IHMO.

-Jam

	17-03-2003 18:23									#12
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What, no Mahler?

	18-03-2003 10:48									#13
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i think the galciv main background music is a lot like a Star Wars type of sound. It has a kind of soft warm feeling to it though (as soft and warm as space can be anyway). That's a bit refreshing after playing MOO3. It's like running from the pool and jumping into the jacuzzi. mmmmm....

	18-03-2003 10:51									#14
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GalCiv soundtrack is a mixture of rap and heavy metal thrash.

	18-03-2003 12:24									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov What, no Mahler?

Well, being pedantic ( ) The "Modern Era" of Civ seems to start around 1940-50ish, so I'd say music from the Darmstadt School would be more appropriate.

@Brad - you'd better !#@!ing well be joking us !

-Jam

	18-03-2003 18:30									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Draginol GalCiv soundtrack is a mixture of rap and heavy metal thrash.

Were it true, I'd personally hunt you down and force you to listen to the Ring Cycle 100 times in a row sans break.

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quote: Originally posted by War of Art Well, being pedantic ( ) The "Modern Era" of Civ seems to start around 1940-50ish, so I'd say music from the Darmstadt School would be more appropriate.

See, I always associate "Modern Era" as beginning c. 1900, which is why I think Mahler would be appropriate. He certainly sounds appropriate for modern warfare. Well, him and Holst, Stravinsky, Prokofiev, Shostakovich, etc. The big symphonic sound is perfect for having your armor divisions roll over the enemy...

	19-03-2003 12:41									#18
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Mahler & modern warfare ? I hope not ! Shostakovich, sure. Holst - why not, (but only Mars, most of the rest of his music is somewhat "different")

Hmm... for the best modern warfare music it really has to be Black Angels by George Crumb. Its for string quartet.

-Jam

	19-03-2003 22:10									#19
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quote: Originally posted by War of Art Mahler & modern warfare ? I hope not ! Shostakovich, sure. Holst - why not, (but only Mars, most of the rest of his music is somewhat "different") Hmm... for the best modern warfare music it really has to be Black Angels by George Crumb. Its for string quartet. -Jam

Why not some Mahler? I can think of a several of his symphony movements that could serve as a soundtrack for tanks rolling over a field towards the enemy, such as No. 6, 1st mvt.

	19-03-2003 23:41									#20
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Civ3 modern age needed Caetano Veloso (sp?), Miles Davis, and Erasure.

Imagine nuclear war to the sound of Veloso or Erasure

	20-03-2003 01:27									#21
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Ummmm... no thanks.

	20-03-2003 12:37									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Why not some Mahler? I can think of a several of his symphony movements that could serve as a soundtrack for tanks rolling over a field towards the enemy, such as No. 6, 1st mvt.

Sorry, but I just can't associate my beloved Mahler with mechanised warfare. The first movement of 6 is more armoured knights "marching" IMO. Personally for a modern war with tanks I like to play the 2nd Mvt from Bruckner's 9th. Very loudly

-Jam

	20-03-2003 22:50									#23
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I play Bruckner in the background a lot whenever I play civ games, esp. the 8th symphony. It actually seems to have worked pretty well for SEIV...

	21-03-2003 05:23									#24
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War of Art - the best music for modern warfare (IMHO) is Kraftwerk (esp. Die Roboter) or maybe Rammstein (esp. Seinsucht). Something about those Germans...

Boris - according to the bonus pack info, you can play your own mp3's during a GalCiv session.

	21-03-2003 05:26									#25
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Hey, Mahler and Bruckner are both German, so there ya go.

Of course, my music collection is predominately German classical, but that's just me...

	21-03-2003 16:48									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Hey, Mahler and Bruckner are both German, so there ya go.

Austrian, actually.

quote: Of course, my music collection is predominately German classical, but that's just me...

Its not just you, Boris, quite a lot of us have taste

Hmm, in-game mp3 player... I guess I'll be starting my first game of GalCiv in the key of C major. There's a prize for guessing what piece - but its not so hard to guess.

-Jam

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quote: Originally posted by War of Art Austrian, actually.

So German lite.

quote: Its not just you, Boris, quite a lot of us have taste Hmm, in-game mp3 player... I guess I'll be starting my first game of GalCiv in the key of C major. There's a prize for guessing what piece - but its not so hard to guess. -Jam

Would it be sacriledge to listen to Das Lied von der Erde during the game? Maybe I'll stick to the Bruckner and Holst, though.

	21-03-2003 19:52									#28
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Oh - good guess, but try again.

Its being played at the beginning of a space game...
Its not Mahler.
Its in C.

Getting warm yet?

-Jam

	21-03-2003 19:57									#29
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Sorry, the only classical music I outrightly associate with space is either The Planets or Strauss' Also Sprach Zarathustra...or is that it?

	21-03-2003 20:01									#30
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BINGO !

It has to be the Strauss, doesn't it. Even if it has been done to death. Strauss is pretty good for Civ games too.

-Jam