21-03-2003 21:27									#61
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Sorry to infect this thread with that line of thought, gang. It was "happening now" when I typed that. Guess I'm guilty of letting RL affect my Poly time. Mea maxima culpa...

Yeah, me too. I have done an edit and want to make clear my thought that whatever else, you are a true gentleman.

Donning the symbols of my former offices, I offer this blessing. May all your hutches be filled with sweet carrots and eager, willing companions.

Let's play the game!!

Monk

	21-03-2003 21:42									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Bloody Monk May all your hutches be filled with sweet carrots and eager, willing companions. Monk

Mmmmm... Flayrah!!!

	21-03-2003 21:56									#63
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Mmmmm... Flayrah!!!

Hope that's a good thing ...unfamiliar with that word. Not a compound used to invoke a mod is it??

Monk

	21-03-2003 22:02									#64
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Reference to the Adams book, Watership Down, which featured anthropomorphized rabbits as the main characters.
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In the book, "flayrah" (spellcheck needed) is the rabbit word for exceptionally tasty grazing fodder.

	21-03-2003 22:10									#65
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Then, well said, and enjoy

Monk

	22-03-2003 02:09									#66
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Guess I'm guilty of letting RL affect my Poly time. Mea maxima culpa...

You are not guilty, Jr, but there is a forum named OT that anyone of us is free to use when he (or she) feels like expressing his (her) strong feelings.

(I have also strong feelings against the current festivities, but I chose to conquer Baghdad as the Axis in the ww2 scenario ... it works: I keep smiling).

	22-03-2003 02:28									#67
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Interim report: played some turns before work today. Learned Philo and Polytheism; acquired Horseback prior to Philo. Currently planning to sleaze our island and Xin.

I should finish tonight or tomorrow AM.

edit: hopefully this tidbit of an update will allow us to stop the self flagellation (and flagellation of each other).

Last edited by Six Thousand Year Old Man on 22-03-2003 at 02:38

	22-03-2003 02:49									#68
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Great to hear you're on the case. This is turning into another sxn featuring an avg of about one turnlog per page...

( * -Jrabbit indicates his culpability. -- but not in a self-flagellating way. * )

	22-03-2003 22:43									#69
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STYOM takes over the island Kingdom.

40 AD: We are mean, but unfortunately also lean. Lean in science (15 turns/tech), lean in wonders (no HG ), and lean in friends. Few maps will be forthcoming and nobody likes us. Ah, MGE.

So since we can't expand off this little island... I propose to ICS a bit. There are 3 more obvious city sites on our little rock. We'll attempt to sneak some 'vans to decent AI cities, but I want to have some in storage for when we get Mono. Once we have Philosophy, it may be worth trading for Republic, just to boost the science rate. Come to think of it, a little Xinning might get us where we want to go, faster. Xinning Mean City and Beggarsville will get us Philo next turn, or the one after. We don't want to miss that (Babs and Indians are working on Philo).

hits enter...

Babylonians abandon GL. Americans move capital to Boston

60: Un-Xin Beggarsville and MeanCity. We'll get Philo next turn regardless... and I want to see what comes up as an option.

Thinks for a minute. What do we need for Mikes ? - Horse, Poly, and Mono are what we need. Since we'll get a free tech from Philo (if no-one beats us there), perhaps it should not be Horse...

Contact uncooperative Spanish, gift Construction to get them to Neutral, swap Literacy for Horse. Re-Xin MeanCity.

Americans learn Trade! We gasp in awe!

80: Land sighted by Trireme. A tempting hut must remain unpopped.

100: Philosophy>Polytheism; choose Republic hoping to swap it with someone else and get back towards Mono path. Un-Xin MeanCity, that leaves us at 21 turns/tech! Re-Xinning Beggarsville drops that to 14.

Gift 3 techs to Babylonians, and swap another for Republic. Bought dearly, to be sure, but hopefully we will have the chance to research Mono next turn.

120: Start research on Monotheism Un-Xin Beggarsville, re-Xin MeanCity. Science at 20/tech. Finish buying temple in Sticky Meanie, rename BushtheMeanie to Maxwell's Hammer in an effort to avoid OT discussions Change Caravan production to Horsemen in Maxwell to avoid disorder next turn.

Germans are almost done the GL.

140: A year lacking in significance.
Germans learn Republic, and build the GL. I feel better about doing all my tech swapping before GL was built Romans change production to Colossus; Germans revolt.

160: Romans build Colossus, Germans form Republic.

180: Indians (&Germans) learn Philosophy.

200: Xinning is painfully slow. We are by no means well suited to becoming a Republic right now. Nonetheless, I don't see many better options. We need to get to Mono to solve our unhappiness problems, and we need growth as well. Since we can't grow horizontally, we need to grow vertically (bigger cities). Revolution.

Americans learn Literacy, start Great Wall.

220: Republic formed, taxes at 1.3.6. BadLeroyBrown founded. Science improves marginally to 20/tech.

Romans (&Germans) learn Seafaring.

240: Babylonians learn Bridge Building.

260: BigBadBill founded.

280: GreenMeanie hits size 5 - for the hell of it we decide to Xin. I haven't been Xinning MeanCity and Beggarsville because a) the support issues and b) we are sacrificing a bit of production in Republic and I don't want to lose those shields. As more cities hit size 5, Xinning will be an option. We don't want them much bigger without Mikes.

STYOM retires, feeling like not much was accomplished. We could probably trade for Seafaring without too much effort, but I wanted to avoid it until we had Mono. Also, I haven't been doing any gifting to the Indians, and that might be an idea to reduce research costs.

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	23-03-2003 08:00									#70
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Good turns, STYOM.
Nice to see the techs for Mikes arrive.
That's an accomplishment in itself!

I'll see if I can't get Mike's chapel and Monotheism during my turn, and it looks like I'm up.

I'll play either Sunday or Monday depending on my church obligations.

Too tired to play tonight.

	23-03-2003 12:02									#71
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Good turns, STYOM. **** I'll play either Sunday or Monday depending on my church obligations.

If you would like to skip those obligations-- --you can tell them the Bloody Monk has given you a dispensation...

I'm sure that will fly.

Otherwise, see you in church.

Monk

	24-03-2003 01:20									#72
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Nicely done, STYOM. The table is set!

Now that we're a Republic, it's time to Celebrate. As cities reach their max sizes, they stop growing and convert to xinning. Ready to rock for the Jedi!

	24-03-2003 12:36									#73
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OK - How did we miss the Holy Flowers? Who goes to the Institute?

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	24-03-2003 18:35									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits OK - How did we miss the Holy Flowers? Who goes to the Institute? SG[1]

Someone felt the LH would be better I think

	24-03-2003 19:46									#75
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In 550 BC (iirc) we discovered Pottery, selected for study by Bob_Smurf42 in 800 BC.

In 350 BC (iirc) we completed Marco Polo's Embassy under leadership of La Fayette.

quote: 100 BC -- We've got our 200 shields and decide to build... the Lighthouse! (natch) Babs build Great pyramid of Ninevah. Others switch reseach to Great Library.

That was me. When the LH was built, the Gardens were not available. No turnlog notes on who got it, or when.

Clearly, it's our duty to make superior use of the WoWs we have. Does no good to whine about the ones we don't...

	24-03-2003 20:13									#76
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit In 550 BC (iirc) we discovered Pottery, selected for study by Bob_Smurf42 in 800 BC. In 350 BC (iirc) we completed Marco Polo's Embassy under leadership of La Fayette. That was me. When the LH was built, the Gardens were not available. No turnlog notes on who got it, or when. Clearly, it's our duty to make superior use of the WoWs we have. Does no good to whine about the ones we don't...

Ahhh, sorry, Jrabbit. Didn't mean to falsely accuse you.
So HG was built during La Fayette's reign... or in the reign of someone in the interim.

We should keep turnlog notes on this stuff Not that we can do anything about it... but so that we can know who to criticise with extreme robustness and constructivity

	25-03-2003 03:22									#77
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I am probably guilty for not having written who built HG when the AI completed it.
I don't feel guilty at all neither for having chosen MPE, nor for having advised that we should build LH (given the map ).

	25-03-2003 11:04									#78
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quote: Off-continent hut-popping prior to Jihad is forbidden!

Now I have to start over...

	25-03-2003 12:41									#79
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Now I think I have a hang of all of these rules.


Goal is to get Mike's chapel in the next seven turns.

Requirements:

1. science, currently researching Monotheism.
2. 8 caravans.

we currently have:

4 built,
2 to be built this turn

2 more in the next 7 turns.

Need to finish Pool of grace and Sticky meanie caravans.
Rush sticky meanie.

Xin beggarsville, techs drop to 13 turns.

Hit enter.

AD 300
1 more caravan needed, pool of grace. 6 turns away, 40 gold needed.

AD 320
Mean City must stop Xinning.

AD 340
Rush caravan in pool of radiance.

AD 360
Babylonians repulse barbarian Legion invasion.

All caravans accounted for, and parked near Mean City.

AD 380
We discover Monotheism!

Select Medicine.

Time to grow grow grow!
Plow all caravans into Mean City.
Taxes shift to 30/0/70.

AD 400

An obscure painter by the name of Michealangelo
defaces the largest chapel on our slender isle with near-obscene frescos.
Oddly, the people are amused.
Pop at 0.87 million.

AD 420
Population leaps to 1.2 million
Raise luxuries to 80 percent to continue celebrations.

AD 440
Population to 1.6 million
Not enough money to build Aqueduct in Mean city.

AD 460
Population to 2 million
Green Meenie, Beggersville grow to size 8.

AD 480
Population to 2.2 million
2 cities can still grow, Maxwell's Hammer and
Pool of grace.

The consul calls for my resignation, and I reluctantly step down.

Science with full-xinning goes down to 6 turns/tech.
I've left 100 gold for the use of my sucessor.
Do us proud!

	25-03-2003 12:44									#80
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And the save.
Play on!

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	25-03-2003 13:18									#81
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Sounds good obiwan -

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	25-03-2003 19:12									#82
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 AD 340 Rush caravan in pool of radiance.

A game older than Civ2!

	26-03-2003 02:27									#83
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Unless I hear otherwise, I’ll add ten turns to our greatnesss (I saw greatness & I thought that maybe I could add to it).

	26-03-2003 03:25									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Old n Slow Unless I hear otherwise, I’ll add ten turns to our greatnesss (I saw greatness & I thought that maybe I could add to it).

By all means, fire when ready...er ah, well, build when ready. We have to keep our powder dry for a while yet. Good luck!!

Monk

	26-03-2003 03:28									#85
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quote: A game older than Civ2!

That should read pool of grace.

	26-03-2003 06:00									#86
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 AD 340 Rush caravan in pool of radiance.

anyone for calling our elite forces (vet, most techically advanced) the Silver Blades?

	26-03-2003 07:20									#87
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Rather quiet on the southern front.

Opening up the picture we see lots of.....emptiness; no wait we do have a place to call home. Luxeries are high, but growth opportunities are limited -- mainly due to lack of funds. (Three libraries in process??) It looks like 690+ beakers for the next advance. Hmmmm we're ahead a few techs, first in Pop. but are poor in what it takes to get going...so we opt for some questionable gains...$$$

Toggle back to 4.3.3

480 -- Big Bad Bill -- complete the temple (they have an opportunitie to supply dye!) (Babs start KRC)

500 -- Bad Leroy Brown finishes temple (with a little help from extra contributions) do some other 'adjustments'

520 -- A boat pulls out of Pool of Grace and sees a whale in sight of land (quick move of a citizen). (India starts the GW, now four pursuing that Wonder)

540 -- Beggarsville completes market (yeah we switched out of a few libraries...) Bad Leroy Brown makes a dye camel (we have plans for you). Unfortunately, BigBadBill no longer produces dye, so we don't speed the camel up (too much)

560 -- toggle is now at 7.3.0 (could be 8.2.0 but one of our cities lacks a temple -- now on the list) Money is to buy camels and boats, finish some white stuff

580 -- more of the same

600 -- Silver (d) from MH to MC = $60 & a couple of arrows each.

620 -- more partial & RB

640 -- Gems (n) Pool of Grace to Madrid = $192g Hmmm a fair distance, a somewhat fair return.

660 -- We leave a few boats in the water -- one spent ten turns sailing sort of towards Babylon with a Gems Camel (demanded by Ur). Two other boats are laden with goods (only dye is demanded so far) hopefully for Roman lands -- maybe by the the boat from Spain will return & some sort of ship chain can be set up. very quiet for us -- all glory & honor are yours, my successor.

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	26-03-2003 16:16									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits Play Order SG[1] SG(2) Bloody Monk SCG Bob_Smurf42 La Fayette -JRabbit STYOM obiwan18 Old n Slow

Looks good for Friday Night Strategic Drinking, guys!
BUT - I am getting married on Saturday so RL may interfere somewhat ...

SG[1]

	26-03-2003 17:37									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Scouse Gits I am getting married on Saturday so RL may interfere somewhat ... SG[1]

Did I read it right?

Congratulations !



BTW: in that case, "interfere" might seem kind of an understatement...

	26-03-2003 17:48									#90
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Thank you - and yes (but I hope not)

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