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Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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Fellow members of the AECCP, world events have forced me to call a meeting of all right-thinking Evil Capitalist Conservatives(tm).


War with Iraq is now inevitable. It will fall upon the coalition to ensure that Iraq is rebuilt quickly to the point where free-market economics can thrive. To ignore post-war Iraq is to hand it over to one of two (non-Kurdish) groups in Iraq; The Shiites and the Communists. Obviously, neither must be allowed to gain control of Iraq.

While the Shiites must be allowed in the government (as well as the Kurds, Sunnis, Miscellaneuous Christians and Jews), we will only be able to prevent the ascension of the communists by providing rapid rebuilding of Iraq's infastructure, as well as massive education and job training.

Therefore, as Chairman of the AECCP, I hereby put the following resolution on the docket;

AECCP Resolution #2004B

Whereas, within 24 hrs the nation of Iraqi will be subject to the most overwhelming military force assembled since WW2 and
Whereas, Much of Iraq's remaining infastructure is likely to be destroyed during the upcoming fighting and
Whereas, it is considered very likely that Saddam Hussein will use oil Fires to wrec havoc on both Coalition forces and his own people

Therefore, we of the AECCP assembled here today do so resolve;

1. We will continue to support the reconstruction of Iraq for as long as nessecary
2. Political interaction with the rest of the Gulf states is integral to the long term survival of any new Iraqi government
3. We will remember our servicemen and women when the return home, and not treat them with disrespect, regardless of our personal opinions on the war
4. Saddam Hussein, his sons, and much of the Baath party structure be dismantled and brought before the World Court in the Hague for crimes againest humanity. If the WC declines to indict them, a Tribunal will be established in Iraq to try them. The trials are to be fair and the Baathists to be given every oppurtunity to defend themselves.

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Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Sounds decent enough.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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If you disagree with the resolution, please say why.

Chemical Ollie is offline Chemical Ollie
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A counterwheight to the commie-thread, right?

As a conservative evil capitalist and pacifist, I gladly join this party. I can't do much about the war now, can I? I vote yes to the suggestions proposed.

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Can we nuke the commie meeting .

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To me the resolution sounds not "evil capitalist" enough. Even me would agree with that

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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That's already been done, Imran.

There's hardly any 'communism' left in the communist thread.

I'd join except that I'm not an evil capitalist.

So I must decline.

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Originally posted by Olaf Hårfagre
A counterwheight to the commie-thread, right?

As a conservative evil capitalist and pacifist, I gladly join this party. I can't do much about the war now, can I? I vote yes to the suggestions proposed.


Oh, we've been around for a year or so. We just are not as "Loud" as the communists on this board about our school of economic thought.

If you look around, there are a few people who have AECCP or "Apolyton Evil Capitalist Conservatives Party" next to their avatars.

This is a resolution, so it's merely a show of solidarity with what is "right". I came up the AECCP name after a string of "Green party, socialist Party, Communist.." threads, relising there wasn't any party for the capitalists. And since most capitalists are "Evil" in a communist viewpoint...

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quote:
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Can we nuke the commie meeting .


I was thinking of building an Adam Smith 'Droid to run in, scream "Die you Godless, property stilling sum
b!tches!" and blow up, but then I realised I don't know how to code AI.

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To me the resolution sounds not "evil capitalist" enough. Even me would agree with that


Well, we're only mildly devious. I wanted to put a new motto "Nuke their ass and steal their gas" in the resolution, but I didn't want to risk alienating Imran. He's a elegeuont(spelling's for the weak) speaker, dontcha know.

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Well, we're only mildly devious. I wanted to put a new motto "Nuke their ass and steal their gas" in the resolution, but I didn't want to risk alienating Imran. He's a elegeuont(spelling's for the weak) speaker, dontcha know.



Az is offline Az
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An obligatory socialist banana.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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I'm glad you see where I'm coming from.

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quote:
Originally posted by Azazel
An obligatory socialist banana.



:: sprays water at Azrael :: scat!

Az is offline Az
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why does everyone call me Azrael?

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Oh, we've been around for a year or so. We just are not as "Loud" as the communists on this board about our school of economic thought.

If you look around, there are a few people who have AECCP or "Apolyton Evil Capitalist Conservatives Party" next to their avatars.

This is a resolution, so it's merely a show of solidarity with what is "right". I came up the AECCP name after a string of "Green party, socialist Party, Communist.." threads, relising there wasn't any party for the capitalists. And since most capitalists are "Evil" in a communist viewpoint...


Cool - I've mostly been posting "on topic" until last month or so. I am glad to join. I am sick of people accusing me for being a socialist just because I oppose the recent war. Tony Blair is a socialist. I'm not.

Do I need a certain permission to change my profile to identify me as a AECCP member?

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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quote:
Originally posted by Azazel
why does everyone call me Azrael?


Because that's the name of a Batman charecter.

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Cool - I've mostly been posting "on topic" until last month or so. I am glad to join. I am sick of people accusing me for being a socialist just because I oppose the recent war. Tony Blair is a socialist. I'm not


Well, I support this war, but as long as you ain't a commie...(or nazi.)


If you want, just go to "Location" under user profile and type in AECCP.

As you can see, I'm the Chairman and currently on Arrakis (Irraqiss).

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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Nope.

Click on the link to control panel.
Then click on the user profiles section.

Scroll down until you come across the 'locations' section of your profile.

Here you can enter Apolytonian Evil Capitalists Conservative Party if you so desire.

Sirotnikov is offline Sirotnikov
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Could you please define what do you stand for?

I'm basically capitalist liberal reformist authoritarian socialist.

I know. It's complicated.

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That's an understatement, Siro....

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quote:
Originally posted by Sirotnikov
Could you please define what do you stand for?

I'm basically capitalist liberal reformist authoritarian socialist.

I know. It's complicated.


In a nutshell:

- The complete integrity of Capitalism
- Complete support for The military
- Taking out any pissant dictator who crosses our path ( )
- A well defined welfare policy (re; jobs training, welfare only for a year depending on situation)
- A society based on Meritocracy, not race, religion, etc..
- The education of the sins and evils of communism
- The Integrity of Israel AND the right for a Palestinian State
- Harsher penelties for all criminals, BUT lesser penelties for drug users who seek out help (are not "caught")
- Public Services that cannot be contracted to the private sector is limit of government interaction.

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If any member of the AECCP has questions on this, please ask. This is a VERY rough draft of our views, and has yet to be voted on.

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Complete support for The military.


That kicks me out on the grounds of pacifism.

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You can support your servicemen without being pro-war, you know. That is acceptable.

Should've added; "A clear, concise foreign Policy" to the list.

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we will only be able to prevent the ascension of the communists by providing rapid rebuilding of Iraq's infastructure, as well as massive education and job training.


In other words, we'll prevent the communists from taking power by becoming communists?

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In other words, we'll prevent the communists from taking power by becoming communists?


No. We'll be providing public services that no one else can. Just like the highway system here in the states.

Education? Hell, not even Texas thinks state backed education is communist.

Job training? That would be under welfare reform.

The point is, we have to give these people a BIG leg up, both for their benefit and ours. One of those "give a man a fire, keep him warm for a day, set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life" situations.

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hmmm...

this actually is a very good fit for my views.

though i'm not sure what meritocracy means, and would like some more info on your welfare.

but count me in otherwise. can i be chairman of propoganda?

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The Bath party call themselves socialists.

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No. We'll be providing public services that no one else can. Just like the highway system here in the states.


The highway system was built during Ike's presidency for defensive purposes, but if you think only government can build a highway, consider who the government calls upon to build highways.

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Education? Hell, not even Texas thinks state backed education is communist.


Karl Marx did.

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Job training? That would be under welfare reform.


Hey, lets give all the planks to the Communist Manifesto a new name and call it capitalism.

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The point is, we have to give these people a BIG leg up, both for their benefit and ours.


Fine, give them all the money you want as long as the money is yours and not ours.

quote:
One of those "give a man a fire, keep him warm for a day, set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life" situations.


Umm...I think we will be setting 'em on fire.

Lonestar is offline Lonestar
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meritocracy= you advance in life based upon how hard you work, how smart you are, etc. Basically, what "merits" you have.


welfare policy;

There is no reason for most people to be on welfare their entire lives. In the USA in the early '90's there were nearly 5 million people on federal welfare, some of whom came from families with welfare. Most of these welfare reciprients were minorities, and, sadly, they believed the tripe that Demorats fed them about how they were incapable of getting off "due to the socio-economic system".

When the Republicans took over the senate, one of the first things they did was bang through legislation that set new standards for welfare. You were limited to one consecutive year of welfare. During this time, free job training was availible. Free childcare was availible for when you got a job.

Within a few years, 3 million people were off welfare and had self-sufficienty occupations. Most of the remaining people on welfare geniunly need it (mentally ill, etc.)

It is an excellant program, and it's worth noting that a (non-scientific) poll of the 3 million indicate they were now Republican for a bunch of reasons, among them they returned their dignity and made them productive members of society again.

( I wrote a report in college, can you tell?)

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Tsk, tsk, no club threads. I voted no, because your proposal wasn't evil or capitalist. Blatent false advertising.

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In other words, we'll prevent the communists from taking power by becoming communists?


That's kinda how it works, buddy. Either you pay us off or we revolt. Without Keynsian capitalism (aka to the libertarians "socialism: ) we'd all be commies today.

 
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