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Plan Austral is offline Plan Austral
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Arrg, I read in you signature I want to do it with Mahoma (Muhammed in spanish)

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So you agree with murder, AH?

Do you believe that Muhammad is acting morally in these instinces?

Imran:

I'm rebutting RAW_OmarBKhatab, who has stated that Muhammad is sinless.

Look up a bit in the thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


"Our morality"? Bigot.


Hey AH:

American Beer is better than any of the swill Australia produces.

Thought I'd pass it along

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You my friend need to take a few comparative religion classes and learn a little about the common practice of "religious co-opting". It is how the current religious nutball tries to get people to think he's ligit by co-opting the previous religious nutballs.

Jesus was a muslim indeed!

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Nope, Moses (Prophet Musa(as)) was a Muslim, He(as) taught u what ALlah told him, And Prophet Mohammed(saw) did not come with a NEW Message, He (saw) came with the same message with additional restrictions and rules.

For your info:

Adam and Eve [Adam (as) and Hawa(as) ] where Muslims.

Abraham [Ibrahim(as)] was A Muslims.

All the Prophet of Jews and Christians are also prophets of Islam, just that we value and respect them more them Jews and christians.

And Yes, Jesus [Essa (as)] was Muslim, Son of Marry, and a Prophet Of ALLah.

Islam is the origianl religion. Allah sent down chain of religions before the FINAL completion came with Prophet Mohammed(saw), the last and Final messenger of Allah.

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quote:
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A bot has taken control of AH's computer !


bot bigot.

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Oerdin:

Are you referring to me?

If so, by all means make the argument that Muslims co-opted Christian examples.

The book I provided lists examples of how Muslims attributed miracles to Muhammad only after Christians critiqued the lack of miracles for such a prophet.

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Originally posted by RAW_OmarBKhatab
u make no sense. may be u are confused all over again cos what I said is never said on ur media sources.


Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, and and hundred other
religions, their is one thing the communists were right
about, getting rid of religion.

The utter nonsense in this thread is a prime example
of how a ethic of love is used to foster hate, an ethic
of truth is used to pass lies and a ethic of responsibilty
is used to pardon the most vile crimes known to humanity. Thence DOUBLESPEAK.

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quote:
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Bigot.


Firstly, learn a new word.

Secondly, you're the king-bigot.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ozz


The utter nonsense in this thread is a prime example
of how a ethic of love is used to foster hate, an ethic
of truth is used to pass lies and a ethic of responsibilty
is used to pardon the most vile crimes known to humanity. Thence DOUBLESPEAK.


*clap,clap,clap*

This thread is full of bigots.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


*clap,clap,clap*

This thread is full of bigots.


You seem to have a hatred for bigots.

This makes you a Bigot Bigot.

(bigot band)

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quote:
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Firstly, learn a new word.



You have nothing to teach me about words son.

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From the book
"Answering Islam."

by N. Geisler and A. Saleeh

p.171-172

POLYGAMY

" According to the Quran a man may have up to 4 wives."

Muhammad received a revelation from God that a man should have no more than four wives at one time, yet he had many more. A Muslim defender of Muhammad writing in the Prophet of Islam as the Ideal Husband, admitted thatt he had fourteen wives! Yet he told others they could have only four wives. How can someone be a perfect moral example for the whole human race and not even live by one of the basic laws he laid down as from God?

In addition to all this, we are asked to believe that God made a special exception to another divinely revealed law to give each wife her conjugal rights justly, that is to observe a fixed rotation among them. Muhammad insists that God told him that he could have whichever wife he wanted whe he wanted her: "Thou mayest defer the (the turn of) any of them that thou Pleasest, and thou mayest receive any thou pleasest."

FEMALE SERVANT BEATING

On one occasion Muhammad sanctioned the beating of a female servant in order to elicit the truth from her. Haykal reports that, "the servant was called in and Ali immediately seized her and struck her painfully and repeatedly as he commanded her to to tell the truth to the Prophet of God.

WIFE BEATING

According to the Q'uran, men can even beat their wives.
"Men are in charge of women because Allah hath made the one to excell the other...As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them"

TREATMENT OF UNBELIEVERS p.174

The punishment of those who wage war against God(unbelievers) And His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land.

CARAVAN RAIDING

Muhammed himself sanctioned his followers raiding of the commercial Meccan caravans. The Prophet himself led three such raids. Doubtless the purpose of the attacks was to obtain financial reward but also to impress the Meccans with the growing Muslim force.

FALSE WITNESS

Another time, Muhammad sanctioned a follower to lie to an enemy named Khalid in order to kill him. This he did. Then, at a safe distance, but in the presence of the man's wives, he fell on him with his sword and killed him. Khalid's women were the only witnesses and they began to cry and mourn for him.

ASSASSINATIONS

On other occasions Muhammad had no aversion to politically experidant assassinations. When a prominent Jew, Ka'b Ibn Al-Ashraf, had stirred up some discord against Muhammad and composed a satirical poem about him, the Prophet asked, Who will deliver me from Ka'b? Immediately four persons volunteered and shortly returned to Muhammad with Ka'b's head..

Also Muhammad ordered the death of Uqbah ibn Abu Muayt.

On 2 other occasions, Muhammad ordered the deaths of satirical poets.

KEEPING OATHS p. 175

The Qur'an itself informs us the Muhammad was not indisposed to breaking promises when he found it advantageous. He even got a revelation to break a long-standing pledge to avoid killing during a sacred month of Arab:"They ask thee concerning fighting in the prohibited month. Say: Fighting therein is a grave offense, but graver is it in the sight of God to prevent access to the path of God."

EXECUTING WOMEN

A Jewish woman was executed because she had killed a Muslim by dropping a millstone on his head. Both slave women who had allegedly spoken against Muhammad in song, were indicted and ordered executed with their master. When it was believed that one woman, Abu'Afk had insulted Muhammad, by a poem, one of Muhammad's followers "attacked her during the night while she was surrounded by her children, one of whom she was nursing. And, "after removing the child from his victim, he killed her."

GENOCIDE p.176

Muhammad attacked the last Jewish tribe of Medina based on the suspicion that they had plotted with the Meccan enemies against Muslims. Unlike the previous two Jewish tribes who had been simply expelled from the city, this time all the men of the tribe were put to death and the women and children were sold into slavery.


Thank you. I wasn't trying to make a point, I was merely curious.

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Bigot.

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Bigot.


I hope you get iced for spamming

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There's a lot of bigotry on this thread.

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Bigot.


Ooooohhhhhhhh, I'm being dissed by Alfred E. Neuman! Oh the trauma of it all! Hey, why don't you ask Don Martin to draw us some nice cartoons about bigots Al ol' boy?

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Bigot.

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quote:
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quote:
Muslims claim that Muhammed is sinless


No they don't.


Imran, if u dont know, dont comment. Prophet Mohammed(saw) is Sinless according to Quran. Not to believe in it is a crime and can render one out of the fold of Islam.

There are a LOTS of scholars in Georgia. Help ur self in ANY Mosjid and ask a scholar(Ulima). Best is to ask a "sohi=correct" Mufti.

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From the book
"Answering Islam."

by N. Geisler and A. Saleeh


This book has no basis. ANy one can write and make up things on their own will.

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ANy one can write and make up things on their own will.

We can plainly see that from your posts.

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We can plainly see that from your posts.


Well, they are making up about Islam which they have no clue about and being a orthadox christian, their effort will be nothing but to undermine Islam.

Till now, did I write inside belief or actions of Christians or Jews? I am not a master of your religion, so I shall not speak on what u believe in.

In this post, I spoke of purely on Islam and Muslims and our RAW clan

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Oh please! Anyone that starts saying reason and logic aren't required as anylytical tools is clearly making things up as he goes along.

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Well, they are making up about Islam which they have no clue about and being a orthadox christian, their effort will be nothing but to undermine Islam.

Till now, did I write inside belief or actions of Christians or Jews? I am not a master of your religion, so I shall not speak on what u believe in.

In this post, I spoke of purely on Islam and Muslims and our RAW clan


... and the cursed Jews.....

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Didn't David commit adultery? Was it Noah who commited incest?

And wasn't this Jesus fellow Jewish? certainly not a Christian....

As I said earlier, the current problem I see in islam is that the clergy has for some reason assumed that some 13th century man somehow already figured everything Mohemmed had to say..why?

The Q'uran is the word of God (like the Bible or Torah..I lelave it to fundies to fight it out), revealed to Mohammed by an Angel (Micheal or Gabriel, which one?)and then written down. Would it not be an act of idoletrous hubris to think a bunch of scholars, no matter how learned, to think they already figured it out? And what about also looking at the works of God, and not only the word?

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Moslems really do need their own strategy site -

They haven't won a war in 50 years despite the fact that they outnumber the cursed Isrealis 200 to 1, even the one they started on Yom Kippur, they lose even when they violate the Geneva convention.

Since they couldn't beat the Isrealis, they decided they might have better luck attacking the U.S. while there is a cowboy in The White House!

It's obvious that none of us infidels can grasp Islamic strategy!

Especially someone who believes:
quote:
Originally posted by RAW_OmarBKhatab
Owner of Al Jazeera is Jewish. And tons of News presented was "directed" to give meanings not intended.

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We can plainly see that from your posts.




ah, clever, clever DinoDoc, took the words outa my mouth

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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Sorry, i just had to play with the smilies, GUHEE!

(And yes, i am easily amused.)

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Omarkbhatab, perhaps you could provide more detail than just to say that it is wrong.

In addition, what is the name of this Jewish owner of Al-Jazeera?

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This thread has converted to the true faith of islamic bigotry.

 
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