24-03-2003 06:53									#1
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First of all, any website where we can follow the transmision? Thx

	24-03-2003 07:50									#2
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	24-03-2003 08:13									#3
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Wow. Michael Moore just got booed off the stage for calling President Bush a "fictitious president" and other such things. What a jackass...

	24-03-2003 08:15									#4
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I just saw that. The only jackasses were the ones booing.

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Host Steve Martin gets a huge laugh when he says that "the Teamsters backstage just helped Michael Moore into the trunk of his limo".

	24-03-2003 08:20									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Host Steve Martin gets a huge laugh when he says that "the Teamsters backstage just helped Michael Moore into the trunk of his limo".

Oh..I thought that was a live report!!

I was thinking, WOW!

He won an Oscar and got two rewards for what he deserved!!


1) a sit down with the teamsters

2) a ride away from the oscars in a trunk of a Limo

All that for being a weiniehead!!


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	24-03-2003 08:23									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Wow. Michael Moore just got booed off the stage for calling President Bush a "fictitious president" and other such things. What a jackass...

And everything he said was true. At least he's prepared to stand up in public for what he believes, unlike some of the chickenhawks on this forum.

Notice how all the other nominees agreed with him.

Nice one Mike.

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I liked it because at least he was incredibly upfront about it. Throughout the show, actors and actresses were being like politicians, trying to avoid expressing their opinions but slipping in phrases that would relate to the war.

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I wonder how all the other documentary nominees feel about being used to make Moore's political point?

	24-03-2003 08:24									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II I liked it because at least he was incredibly upfront about it. Throughout the show, actors and actresses were being like politicians, trying to avoid expressing their opinions but slipping in phrases that would relate to the war.

Agreed.

	24-03-2003 08:24									#11
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You really do have to admire the guy.

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quote: You really do have to admire the guy.

Why? I used to like him when he stuck to his main strength (humor) but he's gotten too political. Making intelligent points was never his strong suit...

	24-03-2003 08:30									#13
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Because he stood up for what he believes in and said what many people there were scared to say.

Plus, you know, he's right.

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The Oscars aren't the time or place for politics. Come on, they're the Oscars. I'm all for movie stars protesting, declaiming, and so forth, but why spoil something that is nothing more than a celebration of commercialism?

The problem with Mikey is that he's the only one who's there who isn't being celebrated for being fictitious, and he misses the larger purpose of the event, which is to lose touch with reality for a while.

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quote: Originally posted by red_jon You really do have to admire the guy.

Why do I have to admire him?

He cut down our Political Process.

He cut down the Leader of the Greatest Country on Earth..USA

He flamed on a venue that could have been better suited for paying homage to the lives lost..

Nope, I dont have to admire this dunce..not for a moment

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	24-03-2003 08:31									#16
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What he have said may be completely wrong, stupid or uncalled for(if u think so), but if he was honest about it, its a respectable thing. Unlike others who were too afraid to express their opinion to avoid backlashes.

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quote: Originally posted by red_jon Because he stood up for what he believes in and said what many people there were scared to say. Plus, you know, he's right.

Yeah, thats why so many Boos were heard, thats why they started playing Music, thats why we saw no standing ovations...

Yup..thats why he was right..NOT!!


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	24-03-2003 08:33									#18
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quote: Plus, you know, he's right.

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quote: Originally posted by Troll Why do I have to admire him? He cut down our Political Process. He cut down the Leader of the Greatest Country on Earth..USA He flamed on a venue that could have been better suited for paying homage to the lives lost.. Nope, I dont have to admire this dunce..not for a moment Peace Grandpa Troll

I was actually going to respond to your argument till the 'USA' remark.

Lost cause I'm afraid.

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quote: Originally posted by Troll Yeah, thats why so many Boos were heard, thats why they started playing Music, thats why we saw no standing ovations... Yup..thats why he was right..NOT!! Peace Grandpa Troll

Ooh, a load of pampered rich snobs didn't agree with him - he must be wrong!

	24-03-2003 08:36									#21
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon I was actually going to respond to your argument till the 'USA' remark. Lost cause I'm afraid.

I disagree with eithr of you extreme sides, but red jon's got a point there. "Greatest country on earth"? That's overdoing it.

	24-03-2003 08:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by red_jon You really do have to admire the guy.

I do - he's helped a lot of people. One of the few people in America to stand up for the little guy and make the establishment feel uncomfortable.

He's obviously succeeded once again

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quote: Ooh, a load of pampered rich snobs didn't agree with him - he must be wrong!

That collection of snobs happens to be one of the most liberal collection of people on the planet. If your leftist views are so extreme that you offend even Hollywood types, that's usually a sign that you're not right...

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Ooh, a load of pampered rich snobs didn't agree with him - he must be wrong! That collection of snobs happens to be one of the most liberal collection of people on the planet. If your leftist views are so extreme that you offend even Hollywood types, that's usually a sign that you're not right...

No you missed what I pointed out before. The others were too sissy to express their opinions because they are celebs. Having a nasty backlash is bad for their career. So I can understand why they are so evasive on the issue, but at least he said what he wanted to say. that's

But 'fictitious president' is on the same level as 'greatest country on earth'.

	24-03-2003 08:43									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II I disagree with eithr of you extreme sides, but red jon's got a point there. "Greatest country on earth"? That's overdoing it.

Not in the Least, I feel and am Blessed to be in The Greatest Country on Earth.
I dont know where you or Red_John live, but if its not USA, then I would suspect that you would hold in high regard your country.

But dont tell me what to say or think or uphold about my country, It is any of your business about how I feel.
I Love my country and take it personal when people cut it down. I dont care especially for those whom live and work and have a way of life within our borders whom cut down Old Glory, but yet reap the rewards of what I and many other Veterans have done, served to make this country Great!

Thast just my $0.02 worth.

Peace

Grandpa Troll....

P.S. The Oscars..what country are they held in???

Oh Yeah...USA!!

	24-03-2003 08:45									#26
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I'm not disagreeing with you, Calc...

OT: Jack got robbed. Brody is a deserving best actor, however...

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PEACE?! You spelt my name incorrectly! FIE UPON YOU!!

And I don't hold my country in very high regard. But it is home.

Oh, and the USA isn't the greatest nation on Earth either. Holland is.

	24-03-2003 08:47									#28
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Moving beyond you rather unoriginal people who can't seem to get over somethings...

Adrien Brody just won Best actor for the Pianist (he deserves it) and gave Halley Berry a French Kiss. Best Oscar night gift...ever!

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Troll: suck it up. Only in the US does foreign affairs become a ****-measuring contest. You may be right, but if you keep talking like that, you're still wrong.

	24-03-2003 08:48									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Troll

I live in NY. Yes that is US. And I never tried to shot down your patriotism, but I did say you're overdoing it. If you're blaring out about how great USA is and proclaim it to be the world's greatest country...