24-03-2003 21:36									#1
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After Iraq, China?

I have heard increasing speculation that the current conflict is part of a greater plan aimed eventually at taking on China in someway. Now I don’t know how much of this is aimless speculation, so I have some questions:

Has anyone else heard anything about China being a future or final target?

Would this mean that the cold war is in effect still on just that we are mopping up the last communist resisters?

Can we expect other communist regimes (Cuba) to come under further pressure?

What would this say about the world order now, concerted efforts by the allies for a world in whatever image they think is best; or loose association of friends (and freedom loving peoples of course) who band together when the going gets tough but otherwise no coordination?


I don’t know so I am seeking some sage advice, and as I don’t seem to be able to find that I am turning to the Apolyton rabble for some: wild conspiracy theories; right wing rant and liberal knicker wetting.

So once you have finished sticking the pages of that catalogue together please post you ideas.

Thanks you,

BlackStone

	24-03-2003 21:37									#2
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if only. sadly china has a very large army and nukes...

	24-03-2003 21:39									#3
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The way things look now, Baghdad will be under Iraqi control for couple more years.

	24-03-2003 21:40									#4
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i don't see the jews rushing to our aid

	24-03-2003 21:40									#5
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quote: Originally posted by BlackStone After Iraq, China? I have heard increasing speculation that the current conflict is part of a greater plan aimed eventually at taking on China in someway.

You shouldn't believe everything you hear

	24-03-2003 21:42									#6
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney if only. sadly china has a very large army and nukes...

Their army is mainly sh*t though isn't? I don't mean to be rude to our little yellow friends but surely they would be hard pressed to prevail against our technological superiority?

Or perhaps like the USSR we would apply indirect pressure?

	24-03-2003 21:43									#7
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We have seen how 'cautious', to say the least, the US has been dealing with countries pretending to have the potential to nuke California (NK).
I don't think there will be any war against China, for the fear of nukes on both sides is as strong as during the cold war. The Americans or the Chinese would be very foolish to attack each other, for the sake of beginning a nuclear apocalypse.

	24-03-2003 21:44									#8
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China seems on course for democracy on it's own, and isn't really too much of an oppressed tyranny

This sounds absurd

	24-03-2003 21:49									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Ming You shouldn't believe everything you hear

It sounded plausible to me because I remember the Bush administration having some problems with the Chinese earlier on (thought the precise nature I cannot remember).


Also they are the only other power in the world right now (growing in strength financially) and they are communist heathens, so it did sound like there might be something there.

A bit of a stretch of the imagination perhaps (China does seem to want to keep its head down on the international scene). Maybe I have been reading too many Tom Clancy novels.......

	24-03-2003 21:49									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka China seems on course for democracy on it's own, and isn't really too much of an oppressed tyranny

tell that to tibet...

BS, yes china's army isn't up to much, but an invasion would be unthinkable in political, economic and military terms.

	24-03-2003 21:50									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Zylka China seems on course for democracy on it's own, and isn't really too much of an oppressed tyranny This sounds absurd

That's only because it is absurd.

China executes more people than the rest of the world combined, and that includes Texas.

Women are 2nd, no, 3rd class citizens.

What else?
Oh yeah. They're short. The French are short, too.
Can you see the relationship?

Short people suck.

	24-03-2003 21:54									#12
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Oh yeah. They're short. The French are short, too. Can you see the relationship? Short people suck.

I see I have missed out on all the French bashing .


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	24-03-2003 21:55									#13
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quote: Originally posted by BlackStone I don't mean to be rude to our little yellow friends

That goes beyond rude... one more crack like that and you are toast...

	24-03-2003 21:58									#14
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Eli, you have this quote as a signature "We will have peace with the Arabs when they will love their children more than they hate us" - Golda Meir.

I think it probably truer to say that you will have peace with the Arabs once your external funding stops.


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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney if only. sadly china has a very large army and nukes...

Are you serious?!?! This is not Bush planet!! Man some people get me mad....Ignorance rules all on this planet.


Spec.

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quote: Originally posted by BlackStone Eli, you have this quote as a signature "We will have peace with the Arabs when they will love their children more than they hate us" - Golda Meir. I think it probably truer to say that you will have peace with the Arabs once your external funding stops. feels good

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Women are 2nd, no, 3rd class citizens.

You've obviously have never met a Chinese grandmother.

quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand What else? Oh yeah. They're short.

Two words: Yao Ming.

	24-03-2003 22:05									#18
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Yao Ming was genetically engineered.

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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand What else? Oh yeah. They're short. The French are short, too. Can you see the relationship? Short people suck.

Are you serious also? I speak French and I'm from Québec. I'm 6'4" and weight 210 pounds. Is that short to you?
I would love for you to tell me that right when I have you in front of me.....and watch you run away afterwards.

Spec.

	24-03-2003 22:06									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Ming That goes beyond rude... one more crack like that and you are toast...

Duely noted. I bow to your sensible direction and will refrain from cheap remarks.

Yours in perpetual fear,

BlackStone

	24-03-2003 22:07									#21
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Must resist.

	24-03-2003 22:07									#22
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Yao Ming is an abberation, hardly indicative of Chinese.


Yo! Yao. Yo! (sigh)Yao.

Yo-gi.

	24-03-2003 22:12									#23
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney i don't see the jews rushing to our aid

America is paying us billions of dollars to stay OUT of this war, and you're complaining for us not helping?

BlackStone :

quote: I think it probably truer to say that you will have peace with the Arabs once your external funding stops.

Since such situation will quickly lead to a world shortage of Arabs and Oil, you'll lose more than you'll gain.

	24-03-2003 22:14									#24
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China? Why not.

The human race have lived long enough. A quick war between US and China could solve that little problem.

	24-03-2003 22:17									#25
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Slightly more viable options would be Iran (although they're on the road to democracy, and will probably get there sooner rather than later), Zimbabwe (if they want to play the moral card for war, then Mugabe is probably about as despicable a dictator as there is on this planet), Sudan (again humanitarian reasons) and North Korea (if they decide to test fly one of their missiles by trying to land it on Tokyo..).

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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney i don't see the jews rushing to our aid

They were told not to, and their agreeing. It wouldn't exactly be good for the region if all of a sudden they started flexing their muscles. The other Arab nations might just join in on Iraq's side.

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quote: Since such situation will quickly lead to a world shortage of Arabs and Oil, you'll lose more than you'll gain.

Oh, yeah, just take us off that leash, and we'll show ya.

"world shortage of arabs"

	24-03-2003 22:56									#28
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quote: Originally posted by BlackStone Has anyone else heard anything about China being a future or final target?

That's the most riduculous thing I've heard in awhile, no offense meant! China is far to powerful, something like a 1.7 million man army, complete with nuclear arsenal. The US would get their ass kicked in a big way. Not to mention that with 2 billion people (?) living there, the US would never be able to secure it, and the entire region would spin into chaos. Not a chance in hell!

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suicidal

'nuff said

	24-03-2003 23:35									#30
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the only way we fight china is in the C&C: Generals realm