02-04-2003 23:04									#1
	If you could go to Iraq now would you? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

I hear the skirling o the pipes again but my wife wouldn't let me go. She says that I'm a bigger target than I used to be, I'm too slow nowadays, and I have other more important responsibilities now.

	02-04-2003 23:06									#2
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Nope

I actually had a job offer for a 1 year contract in Kuwait last April and I did not really want to go there either.

	02-04-2003 23:07									#3
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I wouldn't. All the good tourist sites have been blown up.

	02-04-2003 23:18									#4
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I mean with rifle in-hand (but maybe you knew that). I know there are a fairly high proportion of leftie-pacifists here so I wouldnt expect a majority of yes answers but I'm just wondering if its only me. Maybe its a mid-life crisis or something?

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	02-04-2003 23:23									#5
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I would like to help some of the Iraqi civillians and their families.

	02-04-2003 23:27									#6
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Not a chance. Not after how hard tha public here had to push so that we wouldn't be involved.

	02-04-2003 23:28									#7
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH I mean with rifle in-hand (but maybe you knew that). I know there are a fairly high proportion of leftie-pacifists here so I wouldnt expect a majority of yes answers but I'm just wondering if its only me. Maybe its a mid-life crisis or something?

There are some just lefties..and they aren't pacifists...

If the US doesn't want anti-Saddam Iraqis taking up arms, why would they welcome anti-Saddam westerners?

If you want to help out the war (at least according to the Pentagon), stay out of Iraq if you want to go in armed..you will just complicate things.

And yes, it probably is some sort of mid-life thing.

	02-04-2003 23:35									#8
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Not now, not ever.

	02-04-2003 23:38									#9
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No.

	03-04-2003 00:01									#10
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Well, I wouldn't go into a shithole country like that unarmed, but I would be interested in seeing what's actually going on.

As far as doing the cowboy thing, I have more entertaining ways than John Wayning it with 50 pissed off Baath party members in as Shittholiah. Like founding the Mexican Space Agency, for one.

	03-04-2003 00:06									#11
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Sure, send me to Iraq. I'll enter one of their military installations and passing cars will uncannily veer off course and strike the building. I could have their infrastructure destroyed in no time.

	03-04-2003 00:13									#12
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i'd love to go, without a rifle of course and certainly not as a human shield. If I was a reporter or aid worker I'd jump at the chance.

I was recently considering joining the army aiming for an intelligence OS but I decided against it. I'd love to see a lot of these troubled places in the world but not as somebody carrying out a US military agenda.

	03-04-2003 00:14									#13
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Absolutely YES. If it was possible for me to join this legal way, I definitely would. Right now. I could stop posting this post and go right now.

	03-04-2003 00:19									#14
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I just think it's unfair that some men get to go and some don't. Some men don't want to go, but they have to. Then there are able guys who really want to go, but they can't. That's not fair.

	03-04-2003 00:25									#15
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As a tourist?
Actually, once Hussein is put down and out, yes.
Many historical treasures I'd like to see.

Not as a tourist? Hmm. Still, yes. I'd like the opportunity.

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	03-04-2003 00:27									#16
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I did volunteer with my old Army Reserve unit but I did that one-week before they left for Kuwait. Since the orders had already been cut and things were set in stone I didn’t get to go. In the long run it’s probably better for my career as a geologist that I stay in the U.S. and continue building experience instead of gallivanting around the world knocking off dictators.

	03-04-2003 01:10									#17
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Now that's what I'm talking about slow!

	03-04-2003 01:22									#18
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I wouldn't go, because I don't deem myself as stupid as those who go there with there explosives to blow up on American troops. The fact that you're on the US' side wouldn't make you more intelligent IMHO.

	03-04-2003 01:49									#19
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no way! it's a ****ing war zone!

	03-04-2003 02:24									#20
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no. i never gave a damn for that part of the world, and it's much too hot this season, anyway.

	03-04-2003 02:28									#21
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if America needed me, I'd go. If they drafted me, I wouldn't run to Canada or anything, I'd go.

I suppose dying for your country is one of the more glamerous ways to go.

	03-04-2003 02:46									#22
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It seems to be lining up as expected. I wasnt necessarily thinking of a 'freelance' opportunity to get involved. A call from an interested government organization (no names no packdrill) would be fine.

	03-04-2003 02:48									#23
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I'd go if I could have a gun... a really big gun... or at least one of them planes with all the missles.

	03-04-2003 02:48									#24
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I'd much rather die for my country IN my country than in some far away desert wastelands.

	03-04-2003 05:08									#25
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if the army had let me join at 16 (bloody diabetis), i'd probably be there now.

pekka, you ever thought about joining the british army, we accept people from overseas (and in fact activly recruit from some places). probably see a bit more action than in the finnish army

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What? That can't be true? That can't be true? I really need to look into that one! I'd be honoured to serve the queen! Point the way old lady!

I thought I had UK already covered, but I guess I didn't then, I need to do research again.

	03-04-2003 05:54									#27
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i'm pretty sure, one of my best mates (now in the gulf as we speak) is south african born, came over here at 14, joined the navy at 17.

i'm not sure what rules there are exactly, it may be restricted to those from former colonies/dominions, or there might be a rule about having lived in the uk for more than 3 years. but something to look in to maybe

	03-04-2003 05:57									#28
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Well.. you know I just have to look at the restrictions again. If it's only that living thing? Hey, not impossible since we're in EU, so it's easy moving in if needed.. not much of a paperwork. Maybe if I get to my school I'm trying to get soon.. I could maybe transfer to UK if there is some few years living rule, or if I don't get in, apply straight to there.. I have even looked some unis already, since I was thinking about it. And wars are not about to end, after Iraq there will be more. Thanks for the heads up!

	03-04-2003 05:59									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf I'd much rather die for my country IN my country than in some far away desert wastelands.

I agree here. I'd go if drafted, but I don't think that we need this war. Besides, I don't give a damn if the Iraqi people are liberated or not.

	03-04-2003 06:00									#30
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I would go to serve my Lord Jesus Christ and help the unfortunates!

I wouldnt mind and most assuredly would go if God would open the doors.

The people whom are being oppressed need friendly,warm loving care to show them that Love is action and that America is not the sum total of its Military action, although we do need that part also.

I am talking about ministering to the needs of the less fortunate.

Peace

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