05-04-2003 07:17									#1
	Apolytoners Who Use SETI@Home Full PM-box? Change here!

Hi all!

I've noticed that Apolyton's SETI@Home page ( http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/...p&name=Apolyton ) is in dire need of attention.

If you choose to link your name with your Apolyton member page, the SETI site automatically places the "http://" in your link. So I've noticed that ALOT of Apolytoners have their link pointing to: "http://http://..." this just confuses the computer and gives you a blank page.

So, If you're a member of the Apolyton SETI Group and have your homepage linked to Apolyton - Visit Seti@home and change your homepage link (ie, don't put in the "http://" when you update your profile - SETI will do it for you).

Thank you for your attention concerning this matter.

	05-04-2003 07:18									#2
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I think most people moved on to something more useful like Folding@Home.

	05-04-2003 07:19									#3
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Well, we still have 64 members in our group...

	05-04-2003 07:20									#4
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My last returned packet was in Feb 2001.

	05-04-2003 07:20									#5
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By the way Asher - What does Folding@Home have to do with the search for alien lifeforms?

	05-04-2003 07:21									#6
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It doesn't.

From F@H's website:

quote: Our goal: to understand protein folding, protein aggregation, and related diseases What are proteins and why do they "fold"? Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out their biochemical function, they remarkably assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, remains a mystery. Moreover, perhaps not surprisingly, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious effects, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson's disease. What does Folding@Home do? Folding@Home is a distributed computing project which studies protein folding, misfolding, aggregation, and related diseases. We use novel computational methods and large scale distributed computing, to simulate timescales thousands to millions of times longer than previously achieved. This has allowed us to simulate folding for the first time, and to now direct our approach to examine folding related disease.

	05-04-2003 14:53									#7
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Just added my name to the Apolyton group; the #9 position currently

	06-04-2003 02:36									#8
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Glad you could join us DRose (or should I say David )!

	06-04-2003 02:39									#9
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I would jon, but I don't think my P166 would contribute a great deal to the effort.

	06-04-2003 02:42									#10
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Actually Paul, you would still contribute...it's only that your "returns/finished packets" would just take longer to complete.

	06-04-2003 02:56									#11
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I've tried it before. The one time I managed to get a full packet done it too me about a month, and that was with my computer on about 10 hours a day. Trust me, it's not worth it.

	06-04-2003 04:51									#12
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I see your point Paul.

	07-04-2003 06:58									#13
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hi ,

ya know , if they would stop to sell off the emails they collect , well they might get a couple more people back , .....

have a nice day

	07-04-2003 18:33									#14
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What do you mean, Panag?

	07-04-2003 18:41									#15
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I don't belong to any group as I'm groupless in the SETI@Home project, and neither will I join now.

BTW, I remind you to download the 3.08 version of the Windows client.

	07-04-2003 19:23									#16
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Why are you being a loner Rasbelin?

Being a part of a group doesn't effect your results in any way - it just shows that you're a member of Apolyton.

	07-04-2003 20:08									#17
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I won't join your group of smelly Mexicans.

	07-04-2003 21:55									#18
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When not too lazy to do so, I can process a lot. Currently, I can proceed about 3 full units during 24 hours.

	07-04-2003 22:18									#19
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As you can see, I decided to retire at 1500 packets. Is there an Apolyton group for Folding@Home? Maybe I'll join, although I don't get much done in the summer. I don't leave the comp on 24hrs due to thunderstorm activity ("summer" seems to follow winter very closely here with little spring in between).

	08-04-2003 02:10									#20
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Rasbelin: Mexicans?? What on earth are you talking about? I myself am American Indian (Wyandot - from the Great Lakes region), Scottish, and German ... or in another words, your average American.

Solver:

Straybow: I guess if I lived in a region that got a lot of thunderstorm activity, I would most likely also turn my computer off when I wasn't using it...but since I don't - I don't.

	08-04-2003 15:35									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich What do you mean, Panag?

hi ,

simple , open a new mail account , wait and see , .....

either some does it without the projects knowledge or they themselfs do it , ......

there are people who signed in , and got so much spam they had to change the account they are using , .....

have a nice day

	08-04-2003 16:16									#22
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Wittlich,

did you see the twink?

None the less, I'll think about it.

	08-04-2003 16:45									#23
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quote: Originally posted by panag there are people who signed in , and got so much spam they had to change the account they are using , .....

Just register using a hotmail account, you won't notice any increase in spam.

	08-04-2003 18:34									#24
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quote: Originally posted by panag there are people who signed in , and got so much spam they had to change the account they are using , ..... have a nice day

I use my regular email account and the only thing I get from SETI is the SETI Newsletter - I wouldn't call the SETI Newsleter spam though...

	08-04-2003 20:06									#25
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I'm damn curious. as to why is Folding@Home or others more important?

1. For those, raw comp power isn't the only thing needed, while for SETI it is.

2. The possible result of SETI is FAR better than any possible result from Folding.

	08-04-2003 22:31									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Solver I'm damn curious. as to why is Folding@Home or others more important? 1. For those, raw comp power isn't the only thing needed, while for SETI it is. 2. The possible result of SETI is FAR better than any possible result from Folding.

Is this a joke?

SETI looks at a very minute area and hopelessly tries to look for signals in the sky. Hasn't SETI been re-crunching the same packets several times over now to double-check they didn't find anything, btw?

Even if we do find someone, there's nothing we can do about it. It'd be way too far away, it'd be useless, we wouldn't know how to communicate with them, etc.

Whereas Folding@Home is providing real, tactical research and simulations for protein folding which is critical in understanding the cause of, and cure of, many diseases that people suffer and die from.

So tell me again why you think SETI is more important?

	08-04-2003 22:48									#27
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Because discovering aliens (who ARE there) is much more important than understanding causes of diseased, as heartless as this might sound. Heck, it would be the biggest thing ever for all of the human civilization. Not to mention they might well have the cancer cure...

Besides, folding research can be done without a distributed supercomputer. SETI can be not.

	08-04-2003 23:05									#28
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I concur, SETI can hopefully lead to the age-old question: "Are We Alone?" It really doesn't matter if we can do anything right now with that knowledge, but it will point us in the right direction concerning space exporation.

	08-04-2003 23:31									#29
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Pah. I do not have ANY doubt AT ALL that we're not alone. I am just as sure about it as I am about my own existence. Many people are, though, of course not feeling the same way.

This is why an open contact with extraterrestrials, or a transmission received from them, would be the most important thing yet.

	09-04-2003 00:39									#30
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I think the SETI is far more important if it succeeds. If it finds nothing, then its all been a big waste of processing power. I think the payoff from what Asher has mentioned is tangible and known to be acheivable. As such its a safe bet.