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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:27
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Vagabond, well, I guess there wouldn't be any good judges.. But I'm willing to admit, that the rest of the areas we lost is yours for that matter. They were won fair and square, so let it be.
Karelia really is in bad condition. There is no real infrastructure, nothing. Not even electricity avaliable to every building, nor phone lines to every place needed, it looks like deserted. But don't get me wrong, I wouldn't organize attacks to claim it back  I think we should get it back in mroe civilized ways since we are friends now with no strings attached... But, even we are not too excited about the idea (because of money), so I can only blame ourselves really.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:27
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Pekka, it's difficult when you believe something, and have always believed in your parents and are stepping out the first time. Your parents want what's best for you, that cannot be denied. Yet you have your own conception of what's best, and not only just for YOU.
A break makes sense, because there seems NO WAY that they will understand, perhaps because you don't feel you can speak your mind to them, for reasons as old as childhood.
Listen guy, I understand. Focus on your objective, see if it can be done before you burn the bridges you feel you might have to burn...
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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:27
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lancer, yeah.. but it's not like I decided this with few days of thinking. I'll patch things a little, though I'm not saying I'm sorry. And when I get to go, I'll go and send a letter to them, so there's nothing they can do about it and they have to decide either to back me up in my life, or forget about me. But.. if that's the way it will be, then so it will be.
But I understand them. My mom didn't even let me have toys that resembled guns when I was a kid. I'd be shocker if my son would came me one day and say 'I'm going to the other side of the world to fight for this country'. The disowning part is not about me being in danger, it's about me fighting for the US, since they don't like US wars in general, they think it's about greed only, and killing as much civilians as possible. Also my mom thinks I'll go to hell for volunteering to kill when it's not necessary.
Last edited by Pekka on 06-04-2003 at 10:16
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:27
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You'll come out the other side and might regret how you handled it. Remember it's THEIR problem, and deal kindly. If they've got a clue they'll get it together. If not, eh. Like my mother always told me, life is long, you'll get over it.
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Q Cubed
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t3h y3ll0w p3ril
Apr 1999
time: 23:27
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jarvin:
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Why should we give food to countries when their army is just going to seize it for themselves. Look at N. Korea, we gave them a pile of food, and the army enjoyed it while all the civilians continued to starve. |
actually, china and skorea gave most of the food, not the us.
the us provided mostly fuel oil.
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Here's where i have to get a bit nastier. Why the hell should i care what these countries think of me when they can't even feed themselves? I dont care that myself and my nation are either hated or laughed at. I never plan to leave, and they're too poor to come over here (in dangerous numbers anyway). I dont see why i'm expected to run crying at the thought of people not liking me anyway, it just seems juvenile. |
it doesn't matter what they think of you, flat out. america is strong enough to repel any sort of hostile action on its soil, and no-one and nothing is ever going to strike us in an act of completely blind hatred.
i mean, backwards nations that can't feed themselves can't really afford to have a military that could ever harm any of our interests, after all. nor are they in areas of the world where they can really screw anything up. who gives a **** about africa, anyway? or asia? they're too poor to come here, and they need all the help they can get.
it's america's burden to bring peace, order, and stability into the world.
right?
of course.
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spiritof1202
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in a slight tangent, I just thought I'd mention how much I love to play Megasupremacy. (a board game in case you're wondering)
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999
time: 05:27
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What is Karelia?
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MichaeltheGreat
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Apolyton Grand Executioner
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mooning the house that Ruth built.
Oct 1999
time: 21:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Jarvin
Why should we give food to countries when their army is just going to seize it for themselves. Look at N. Korea, we gave them a pile of food, and the army enjoyed it while all the civilians continued to starve.
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Yes, the whole world is just like North Korea.
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Here's where i have to get a bit nastier. Why the hell should i care what these countries think of me when they can't even feed themselves? I dont care that myself and my nation are either hated or laughed at. I never plan to leave, and they're too poor to come over here (in dangerous numbers anyway). I dont see why i'm expected to run crying at the thought of people not liking me anyway, it just seems juvenile. |
Since you're talking about "feeding the rest of the world" I'm making a huge leap of faith that you don't just mean isolated shitholes like the DPRK. Since you live in a country that, oddly enough, has to import a lot of resources from outside it's borders, and, oddly enough, has a lot of it's economy dependent on either cheap foreign labor, or exports into foreign markets, what happens beyond the borders of the US affects you and your standard of living, whether you like it or not.
The longterm question is whether the US will be around to participate in the growth of developing nation markets, or whether it will continue to be filled with arrogant, ignorant díckheads who say "**** the rest of the world, we're better than they are" (that's about the sum of US foreign policy), all the way until the US finds that it has lost most of the leverage it has on the world economy, and is more dependent than ever on foreign resources. There's never going to be a need to invade the US. 
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06-04-2003 10:02
You may be right about phone lines though. But there is an easy way out: Nokia could provide a couple thousand cell phones as a humanitarian help. 
for you guys.. But that doesn't mean I'd trust you 
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