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Lancer is offline Lancer
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Stolen under the Soviets, this part of Finland is still enslaved under the Russian 'democracy'.

Now, what are you democratic euros gonna DO about it? Refer it to the UN?

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YES!

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Maybe Chirac wants France to be independent from us, thus being against the idea no matter what, vetoing everything.

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Restore it to it's rightful owners, the Teutonic Order.
FREE TEUTONIC ORDER!

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Also Putin said that this topic is dangerous to even talk about. So what will Europe do? Submit. Would Bush be interested in liberating the area?

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http://www.prokarelia.net/en/

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You're right. We should reward the Finns for fighting for the Nazis...

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You're right. We should reward the Finns for fighting for the Nazis...


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http://www.netti.fi/~iory/index.htm

I'm kinda disappointed that they took the Fenix-bird with Swastika marks out of their mainpage. That gave the most accurate picture of the whole party.


EDIT: To be more specific:...
http://www.netti.fi/~iory/karjalatakaisin.htm

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Frogger, you're at it again

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I sense the need for a "regime change" in Helsinki.

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Frogger, sure.. but who's gonna do it? Special Goose Troops?

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Also Vagabond, check out that link and see how 'modern' Karelia is these days..

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GUYS! I don't know wtf I'm talking about, and YOU'RE not helping!

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You don't know about Karelia? Check out that link I provided..

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Frogger, sure.. but who's gonna do it? Special Goose Troops?


Pfft.

You're less significant militarily than we are. We'll send in a platoon or two. The job'll be done in time for a late lunch.

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Sure, we'll be comitting 50% of our military strength, but it's worth it to free the oppressed Lapps.

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You're less significant militarily than we are. We'll send in a platoon or two. The job'll be done in time for a late lunch.

Wait, you do have a military?

How large is it? 500 men with big sticks?

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Of course, I'm sure the protestors will start with the "No blood for snow" line, but what the hell.

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Frogger, fair enough. You'll understand we don't settle military disputes with hockey sticks?

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What? A whole new thread is dedicated to this stinking issue??

LOL, I was on the other thread, and didn't even notice this one.

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Go see that link I provided

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Wait, you do have a military?

How large is it? 500 men with big sticks?


Canada and Viet Nam: the only two countries so far to trounce the US.

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Tuome, yeah, those are funny links, very accurate too. 420 000 refugees from Karelia who lost their homes will laugh with you.

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Pekka, right or wrong, Finland would have to increase it's military budget by 50%! to reach even NATO standards, very low. Finland hardly seems determined to retrieve its land...

This is the land just before Leningrad?

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I think Ming should close this thread as it unnecessarily doubles the other one.

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Lancer, yeah, we would have to beef the budget. So that is the biggest issue why people are against it IMO.
The reason it seems that way, is because our 'politicians' are crying girls, afraid of what Putin says to them because he has already warned about this issue.

Yes, this is the land just before Leningrad.

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Canada and Viet Nam: the only two countries so far to trounce the US.



Sounds like we have some common ground, considering the Finns trounced Stalin.

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Yes.. Hitler didn't get to keep his conquered lands, and I don't see any reasons why Stalin should get to keep the either. It's not like he was a lot nicer.

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Sounds like we have some common ground, considering the Finns trounced Stalin.


No they didn't; they lost the Winter War, even with the Nazis' help.

That's what we're discussing here.

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Yes.. Hitler didn't get to keep his conquered lands, and I don't see any reasons why Stalin should get to keep the either. It's not like he was a lot nicer.


Hitler lost. Stalin didn't.

 
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