06-04-2003 22:45									#61
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who are the idiots that voted for Dutch?

	06-04-2003 23:29									#62
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quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword who are the idiots that voted for Dutch?

All the pot-heads, probably.

	06-04-2003 23:45									#63
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I voted for everything but MExican and Banana

I really like foreign cultures (Mexican just does not seem foreign enough)

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	06-04-2003 23:52									#64
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quote: But in Ro(o)manji they spell it with a 'g'.

Really? I've never seen it spelled with a "gi", but then again I don't often read Japanese text in Romanji. Maybe it's an alternate pronunciation, like Nihon and Nippon...

	06-04-2003 23:55									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior Chinese] = Good food, hot girls Italians = same reasons Mexican = same reasons

quote: quote: Originally posted by DeathByTheSword who are the idiots that voted for Dutch? All the pot-heads, probably.

Wow you guys, like read my mind and stuff...

	06-04-2003 23:59									#66
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Correct! In my Japanese class, my sensei (teacher) explained all this. I guess you can spell it 'ji' because it does sound like it when you speak it. Some ppl spell it w/g and other w/j.

I've never heard of the modified Hepburn system. What's that?

Do I have to download the Japanese character program for windows in order to view these characters or is it already in windows?

(sorry, I'll stop the threadjack )

	07-04-2003 00:02									#67
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quote: I've never heard of the modified Hepburn system. What's that?

The standard system for romanizing Japanese words. Similiar to Pinyin or Wade-Giles (ugh) for Chinese.

	07-04-2003 00:08									#68
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oh Ok, thanks. I only knew the japanese term for it

	07-04-2003 00:26									#69
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American culture is leading . I think were the youngest culutre on the list too.

	07-04-2003 00:33									#70
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i hope american's aren't picking their own culture.... that would be unethical.

	07-04-2003 03:17									#71
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--"in windows, you can get the kana character by typing "gi" as well."

You must be using a different version of Windows than I am ^_^

ji:
じ

gi:
ぎ

They are two distinct characters. Ji is a modified shi or chi. Gi is a modified ki.

They don't sound the same, either. Now, the combined sounds still give me trouble, but these two are pretty easy to distinguish.

--"I've never heard of the modified Hepburn system. What's that?"

One of the main romanization systems. It seems to be the more popular one, since it's more intuitive than the main alternative, the modified Kunrei-Shiki.

Either way, though, I still don't see how the two can be interchangeable.

For that matter, it's not a good sign that you're learning that in class at all ^_^ You really should have the Kana pounded into you before you get to romaji. From what I've been told, it just plain isn't very common.

Now that I think of it, though, maybe your teacher isn't teaching standard Tokyo Japanese. Might want to find out if that's a dialect version.

--"Do I have to download the Japanese character program for windows in order to view these characters or is it already in windows?"

Which version of Windows? If you've got 2k or XP, you just need your Windows CD and you can install the IME.

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	07-04-2003 03:30									#72
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I voted for Chinese, Japanese, British, American and Scandinavian. Then I saw I was only allowed 3...

	07-04-2003 03:53									#73
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I don't understand this poll:

Does South America stand for Native South American cultures or for modern days South American countries?

Is Meixco diferent enough from others countries of South America to be a separate choice?

Where are Portugal and Spain? Must I remember you that Portugal and Spain colonized a lot of America and some parts of Africa and Asia (Portuguese)?

And, BTW, I agree that a Roman culture is a must for this kind of polls (or change Greek to Roman & Greek)

	07-04-2003 04:29									#74
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Mexico isn't in South America, Einstein.

The other points are about as bad, so go from there.

	07-04-2003 04:37									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith --"in windows, you can get the kana character by typing "gi" as well." You must be using a different version of Windows than I am ^_^ ji: じ gi: ぎ They are two distinct characters. Ji is a modified shi or chi. Gi is a modified ki. They don't sound the same, either. Now, the combined sounds still give me trouble, but these two are pretty easy to distinguish. --"I've never heard of the modified Hepburn system. What's that?" One of the main romanization systems. It seems to be the more popular one, since it's more intuitive than the main alternative, the modified Kunrei-Shiki. Either way, though, I still don't see how the two can be interchangeable. For that matter, it's not a good sign that you're learning that in class at all ^_^ You really should have the Kana pounded into you before you get to romaji. From what I've been told, it just plain isn't very common. Now that I think of it, though, maybe your teacher isn't teaching standard Tokyo Japanese. Might want to find out if that's a dialect version. --"Do I have to download the Japanese character program for windows in order to view these characters or is it already in windows?" Which version of Windows? If you've got 2k or XP, you just need your Windows CD and you can install the IME. Wraith "Yoroshiku, Baby, desu no" -- Safety ("Risky/Saftey")

Thanks, I'll go look for it. I'm using XP but have office 2000 installed. Does that make a difference?

As for romanji, my sensei figured that it would be an easier transition if we went from spelling Japanese in English, then move on to Hiragana, Katakana, then Kanji. Unfortunately, I forgot a lot of my characters and the meanings.....we don't really speak Japanese at my house anymore either. I fear I'm losing my knowledge.

Thanks! ‚Ç‚¤‚à‚ ‚肪‚Æ‚¤

	07-04-2003 06:03									#76
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--"Thanks, I'll go look for it. I'm using XP but have office 2000 installed. Does that make a difference?"

No. It's installed on the OS end of things.
Just go into Control Panel - Regional Options. The last tab, Input Locales, is what you'll want.

--"As for romanji"

Well, it is a debateable point, I suppose. Romaji just doesn't work as well. Is that nai a na-i or a n-a-i? I think spelling things in romaji first and then trying to learn the kana spelling is more trouble.

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	07-04-2003 06:31									#77
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German for the music, Italian for Roman history and opera, and Chinese because it's just cool.

	07-04-2003 07:10									#78
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Russia has no culture. It's stolen from other slavic countries.

Really, why no Slavic? There is more the Europe than just the West.

	07-04-2003 07:12									#79
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Mexican culture is unique in Latin America, and very different from Andead culture. Between the ex-aztecs and ex-Incas you get a mixed bag, a really polyglot mix of Native American, african,and Iberian (I agree Iberian should have been included)

Brazil is heavily African with Iberain mixed in, and Aregntines and Chileans like to see themselves as another mix of Europeans, with Italian and german being the strongest.

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thanks Wraith, I'm going to try it out.

(sorry for the brief threadjack, everyone)

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quote: Similiar to Pinyin or Wade-Giles (ugh) for Chinese.

Pinyin is Tse-Tung and WG is Zedong, right?

Or is it the other way around?

(Sure I 'could' look this up for myself, but asking is more fun...)

	07-04-2003 08:03									#82
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italy
germany
greece
britain

	07-04-2003 08:05									#83
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quote: Pinyin is Tse-Tung and WG is Zedong, right?

I think it's the other way around. WG sucks because it was based on Italian pronounciations, IIRC, and is therefore more difficult for English readers to decipher. Pinyin is far superior, IMO.

	07-04-2003 08:09									#84
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every culture is good.

They all have a way to make food others never thought of.

They all have at least one hot looking girl.

All cultures are worth exploring.

	07-04-2003 08:13									#85
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I didn't read the rules, and as a result I voted for all of them, as I find all of them interesting.

	07-04-2003 11:08									#86
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Britain:

What language are we typing here on this site?


Russian:

Solzhenitsyn, Dostoyevski, Pushkin.

And that's just for literature.

No Russian culture?


Korean:
For a balance of the world.

Good thread!

	07-04-2003 17:22									#87
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I admire the geek culture. The rest of them are pure evil.

	07-04-2003 18:39									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II every culture is good. They all have a way to make food others never thought of. They all have at least one hot looking girl. All cultures are worth exploring.

Every culture is evil.
They hold back progress.
They often repress certain groups or minorities.
They can put people's lives at risk for their own sake.

All culture my be eradicated!


Anyway, I choose Japanese, Chinese, and Britainese.