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For half a century, the great colonial powers of Europe built their Empires in Asia, Africa, and the Americas. Then, in a seven year period, thousands of revolts broke out, and almost all the colonies gained independence. After the Great Revolts, there was a long Period of Chaos and War. Then, after the Chaos ended, Fifty Years of Peace came to the Earth. There were some small wars, but no major ones....

It is 1982, and the world is ripe for war again. In the last six years, 16 new powers have carved up the globe. Tensions are high. What nation will come out dominant? How long will they maintain their dominance? Will Chaos return? That is your choice.

Notes: No nukes allowed. Economy levels: Imploded, Depression, Recession, Stable, Growing, Prosperous, Booming, World Leading. If youur economy is World-Leading, it will automatically drop back to Booming in two years, so to maintain it you need constant growth. Imploded economies automatically recover to Depression in one year. Technology is approximately the level of 1982; the technology levels of each country are more to show their relative advencement rather than some concrete tech level. One day is one year. ALso, in the map, Mexico countrols some islands in the south-central pacific. I will control a country, but if an uncontrolled country has a strong need to do something diplomatic or military, I'll briefly control it.

Superpowers:
Canada (dark purple)
Ruler: Methril
Medium Army
Small Navy
Small Airforce
Growing Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: US
Friends: None
Enemies: Mexico, Brazil, Britain, France, Nigeria
War: None

US (light blue)
Ruler: Jack_www
Large Army
Medium Navy
Small Airforce
Prosperous Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: Canada
Friends: Russia, India
Enemies: Mexico, Brazil, France, Nigeria
War: None

Mexico (green)
Ruler: ??
Medium Army
Small Navy
Tiny Airforce
Recession Economy
Early-Mid Modern Tech
Republic
Allies: Brazil (Latin American Alliance (LAA))
Friends: South Africa
Enemies: Canada, US, France, Nigeria, Japan
War: None

Brazil (brown)
Ruler: foolish_icarus
Large Army
Medium Navy
Medium Airforce
Booming Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: Mexico (LAA)
Friends: None
Enemies: Canada, US, France, Nigeria
War: None

Britain (orange)
Ruler: Thud
Small Army
Medium Navy
Small Airforce
Growing Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: France, Germany (Euro Pact (EP))
Friends: India
Enemies: Canada, Russia, South Africa, Egypt
War: None

France (pink)
Ruler: ??
Large Army
Small Navy
Medium Airforce
Growing Economy
Mid-Late Modern Tech
Monarchy
Allies: Britain, Germany (EP)
Friends: None
Enemies: Canada, US, Mexico, Brazil, Egypt, Nigeria
War: None

Germany (blue)
Ruler: ??
Medium Army
Medium Navy
Medium Airforce
Prosperous Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Monarchy
Allies: Britain, France (EP)
Friends: Russia
Enemies: Ukraine, South Africa
War: None

Russia (golden brown)
Ruler: ??
Large Army
Small Navy
Small Airforce
Depression Economy
Early-Mid Modern Tech
Semi-Communistic Dictatorship
Allies: None
Friends: US, Germany, China
Enemies: Britain, Ukraine, Nigeria, Iran, Japan, Kurdistan
War: None

Ukraine (pale yellow)
Ruler: ??
Medium Army
Small Navy
Tiny Airforce
Stable Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Republic
Allies: Egypt, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Kurdistan
Friends: None
Enemies: Germany, Russia, Iran, Egypt
War: None

Nigeria (pale purple)
Ruler: ??
Medium Army
Small Navy
Medium Airforce
Growing Economy
Early-Mid Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: South Africa (Free African Alliance (FAA))
Friends: None
Enemies: Canada, US, Mexico, Brazil, France, Russia, Egypt
War: None

South Africa (dark green)
Ruler: civman2000
Large Army
Medium Navy
No Airforce
Recession Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Monarchy
Allies: Nigeria (FAA)
Friends: Mexico
Enemies: Britain, Germany, India
War: None

Egypt (yellow)
Ruler: ??
Large Army
Small Navy
Medium Airforce
Booming Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Republic
Allies: Iran (League of Islam (LI)), Ukraine
Friends: None
Enemies: Britain, France, Ukraine, Nigeria, South Africa, India
War: None

Iran (blue-green)
Ruler: erz87
Medium Army
Medium Navy
Medium Airforce
Booming Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Fundamentalist Dictatorship
Allies: Egypt (LI), Ukraine
Friends: None
Enemies: Russia, Ukraine, India, Kurdistan
War: None

China (red)
Ruler: ??
Large Army
Medium Navy
Small Airforce
Depression Economy
Early-Mid Modern Tech
Dictatorship
Allies: None
Friends: Russia
Enemies: India, Japan
War: None

India (purple)
Ruler: ??
Large Army
Small Navy
Small Airforce
Stable Economy
Mid Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: Japan (Alliance of Democratic Asian States (ADAS))
Friends: Britain, US
Enemies: South Africa, Egypt, Iran, China
War: None

Japan (maroon)
Ruler: WRangler Rhymer
Small Army
Large Navy
Large Airforce
World Leading Economy
Mid-Late Modern Tech
Democracy
Allies: India (ADAS)
Friends: None
Enemies: Mexico, Russia, China
War: None

Minor Powers:
Turkey (dark blue)
Ruler: ??
Small Army
Tiny Navy
Tiny Airforce
Stable Economy
Mid-Late Modern Tech
Republic
Allies: Ukraine
Friends: None
Enemies: Kurdistan
War: None

Kurdistan (pale blue)
Ruler: ??
Tiny Army
Tiny Navy
No Airforce
Recession Economy
Mid-Late Modern Tech
Republic
Allies: Ukraine
Friends: None
Enemies: Turkey, Iran, Russia
War: None

Syria (gray)
Ruler: ??
Small Army
Small Navy
No Airforce
Stable Economy
Mid-Late Modern Tech
Semi-democratic Theocracy
Allies: Ukraine
Friends: None
Enemies: None
War: None

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	18-04-2003 02:12									#2
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I will be South Africa.

	18-04-2003 02:25									#3
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Hey can I be Japan.

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I would like to be the United States.

	18-04-2003 03:31									#5
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Brazil

	18-04-2003 05:03									#6
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Britain

	18-04-2003 17:02									#7
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OOC: First post updated. I think we now have enough people to start.

To Britain: Is there any way we could buy or otherwise peacefully acquire your african colony?

	19-04-2003 00:29									#8
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Hows about i take Canada.

To: U.S

Alliance?

Orders:

increase air force

increase army

	19-04-2003 01:21									#9
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A new administration, on a platform of domestic safety, efficiency, honesty, and administrative integrity and a neutral minimalist foreign policy, has come into power. They are intent on stamping out government corruption and have a very harsh stance on organized crime. Excess budget money is going to upgrading infrastructure and loans to businesses and individuals so they can develop more advanced technology and better production.


Brazil to Canada:

we wish to purchase the part of South America you have occupied.

	19-04-2003 02:00									#10
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Iran
The irani leader was today in a meeting with Egypt.
They talked about the Future of the Arab league and they both desided that more arab nations should be formed.

The first act of the Arab league was to free the eastern arabs in Pakistan.
They were under the rule of the Indians, but the Iranian leader desided to soon change it.

to India:
You have controled our arab brothers for too long!
Let the nation of Pakistan to be borned, or feel the rath of the Islam! alla shall be on our side!

to Egypt:
Very soon we shall free Pakistan from the operesing rule of India, we hope for your help in there and for our continue to suporte arabs around the World.

to Ukraine:
We ask from your christian nation to give the Arab turks freedom!
Alla shall be on our side if you won't!
Free Turkey at ones!


Orders
Grow army size
Grow air-force size

	19-04-2003 03:13									#11
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India to Iran: Stop your warmongering and be rational. Do you really think you can defeat the combined might of India and her ally Japan?

Ukraine to Iran: We might be able to sell some of our land to you... (SECRET) possibly in exchange for an alliance against Russia (plus money too) in which you let me get a lot of territory if we win a war against them.

Egypt to Iran: (SECRET) I think we should go after Ukraine first and leave India for later. They're weaker, lack allies, and control lands that are more thorouhgly muslim.

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South African proposal to the World:
We, the Federated Kingdom of the South African Nations, believe that an international organization, to be called the International Congress, should be fomred to resolve internaitonal disputes. All Sixteen Powers would be members. Each Power would be allowed to make proposals and would have one vote. Proposals condemning or otherwise directly damaging a specific country (such as giving up territory, embargoing, etc) would require 11 votes to pass; other proposals would require 9. We urge all 16 powers to join the Congress.

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To Canada:
We would welcome an Alliance.

To Iran:
We sugest that you back down in your threats. We do not want to see the world have to cave in your demands simply because you have most of the oil.

To Japan:
We would like to heal the rift between our two nations.

	19-04-2003 16:52									#14
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Canada

To: U.S

Excellent.

To: Brazil

I'll sell half.

	19-04-2003 17:01									#15
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To the World: Please say what you think of our International COngress proposal!

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Iran
to Egypt:
[secret] Ukraine sugested to give us Turkey without a fight...
I think I should go for it.

to Ukraine:
[secret] Smart of you to think a peacfull way to give us Arab lands.
Just that we don't want Arab lands, we want Turkey free.
We will sign with you this alliance, but are not ready for a way with mighty Russia yet...
So free Turkey and we will sign alliance and sell Oil to you in less prices.

to India:
This is the last tim we say this, creat by yourself Pakistan, or we will creat it by force!

to USA:
Don't think you can frighten us with words.
We will free ALL arabs in the arab regions even if it means be aggresive like MED.
If you will contrinue to annoy us with words, we will think about better ways to make you silence. including Oil embargos IF needed.

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To U.S: What is it that you can do for us. Why can we trust that you are willing to end the hostilities. If this is a trap dont bother we not go for it. If you are sincere then let us talk. We would like to talk to you about the increase in Iranian hostilities, we share this threat in common.

To India: Have no fear if they attack you we will wipe them out. Then you can have their land and punish them for as long as you want.

Order
Increase army.

	19-04-2003 22:59									#18
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The US COngress today aproved a bill alowing oil companies to drill for oil in Alaska. They must preserve as much land as possible, but will be able to drill in all the oil fields in Alaska. This is in response mainly to the growing tensions in the Middle East as Iran seeks to start a world war.

Also a new Buget has given bost to spending in the Millitary while providing tax cuts to companies that invest more in own bussiness.

Upsizing Navy and Airforce both to large.
Navy upsizing(2.5 years)
Airforce Upsizing(4 years)

TO Japan:
We will help you in your fight against Iran and their allies. We will not let them push the world arround and cause economic hard ship for our people.

TO Iran:
Soon we will have no use for your oil. So take you embragos else where since you can embargo all you want, it will only hurt yourself.

To South Africa:
We are still looking over the idea.

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Ukraine to Iran: Agreed.
Ukraine has given autonomy to Syria, Turkey, and Kurdistan, although they have required that these new nations keep close ties with Ukraine and they have kept areas with significant greek/christian populations. They have also announced they support Pakistani independence and support the "International Congress," hoping it will be able to force countries to give independence to oppressed groups.

Egypt to Iran: OK, we agree.

India to Iran: Do your worst! Let's see how well you are against India, Japan, and the US combined!

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Map with Turkey, Kurdistan, and Syria.

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Brazil to Canada:

Good. That will suffice for the time being. We are glad we could come to such a mutually beneficial arrangement. We will begin payments and commence takeover immediately.


Brazil to South Africa:

We decline involvement in this organization for the time being.


Brazil to all countries:

We would welcome trade with all of you. We also have a number of industries that can fulfill any need you might have. We can build anything or perform any service, for a price.


Set up high-tech industries and advanced manufactories. Promote research firms. Lift bans on most previously restricted development schemes, but put them under government supervision. Enlarge merchant fleet and, where possible, get involved with business in foreign countries.

	20-04-2003 00:42									#22
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Iran
With the new aran nations that had been formed, the Iranian leader was happy.
The alliance with ukraine was perfect, and very soon she would work.
HE STILL WATED FOR AN UPDATE (update civman2000, when?)

to Ukraine:
(secret)You did well, you have our word about the alliance.

to Egypt:
We thank you for your suport for us

to MODer:
Please add the new nations to the nations table, and please update...

to India:
I am happy now, I don't want wars with the new arab nations that need some help. You got lucky...

to USA:
We DO NOT PLAN another world war, but we do plan the freedom of all arabs in the world, and if you will continue to annoy us, you will be #1 enemy of islam, mr. presidednt!

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1st post updated. However, I don't plan on updating it very often, only on request or when new nations form. I don't want to mod this very much, only when uncontrolled nations are brought into major conflicts/crises/stuff by controlled nations.

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To Iran:
We do not respond to threats and demands. Your economy is heavly dependent on selling the rest of the world oil, including the United States. We sugest that before you start making threats to us you consider the facts and behave in a more reasonable way.

To Japan and India(Secret):
We believe Iran to be a threat to all of the world. We cannot stand by and let Iran get its way and build up and attack us when they are strong. We must act soon.

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to USA:
We only threaten who that threaten us.
You shouldn't come to buisnes that are not yours...

OOC
Civman, how do we grow our armies if there are no updates?
If I saw "grow army" when does it grow???

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To U.S: We will help you in regards with the Iranians. If they try anything to distablize the region we will act with full military force, I hope you can help us.

To Iran: We will not tolerate distablizing of the region of the middle East. We warn you if you do us and India will act with Full military response, we will not restrain yourself from acting in this regard. Attacking the region will be consider an assualt on India, we defend your allies.

To Ukraine (secret): We ask that you not sell Turkey or anyother region in the Middle East to the Iranians. We will reward you if do as we ask.

	20-04-2003 16:46									#27
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Canada


To: Brazil

Take suriname and French Giunea, or Guinea, it doesn't matter.

To: U.S

What about that allaince? Canada wil assist in any military operations against Iran.

	20-04-2003 17:08									#28
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OOC: erz87, GDNES2 is a good example of how armies and such will grow. Just post how long it will take for them to grow, keep it reasonable, and it will happen. Remember, it is NOT a goal of an NES to have your country "win".

Uncontrolled nations:
Ukraine to US: We are not so foolish as to do that. WE just gave Turkey independence, although economically and politically it still is very close to us. And please, stop pestering Iran, they agreed to back off of India, problem solved, so why must you make more trouble?

South Africa:
To Iran: (SECRET) If you let me have Indian East Africa instead of Egypt should a war break out, I'll side with you.
To the World: Please, this crisis over Pakistan is a perfect situation for our proposed International COngress to step in! Let's try to settle this peacefully and openly!

The South African King has announced that he will launch a series of reforms to make SOuth Africa closer to being a Constitutional Monarchy. He also plans to make more pro-business policies to get the economy moving and encourage foreign investment (Economy->Growing in 3 years).

	21-04-2003 00:57									#29
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Iran:
To South africa:
[secret!] We do not plan to conquer India, only to creat Pakistan, maybe you plan to save african people of south african Indian colony...[/secret] We do not wish to join this worldwide coaltion, as most of it it's against Iran. India for now will be sperd, unless her allies will contniue to bug us....

to India:
We shall not creat Pakistan for now, tell your allies to stop buging us and threat us in wars.

to Ukraine:
[secret] We wish to make our alliance stronger, join me and Egypt in the Arab leuge, and with you also the small arab nations should join. Very soon we could do what is needed to finish our arab freedom stuff (invading Russia)[/secret] we wish to open trade with your fine nation.

Orders
[secret]
Preaper to war time.
Grow the army and air force in 1 year. (war time make it faster)
Spread propeganda inn all muslim India to tell them to break from India.[/secret]

	21-04-2003 05:59									#30
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OOC: Growing both your army and your air force will take more than one year, unless you really want to hurt your economy. Maybe 3 years or so to do both of them, and that would slow down economic growth, even while on a war footing because you aren't actually at war.
Uncontrolled:
India to Iran: Thank you. Now let's make a DMZ along the border so we can trust you.
Ukraine to Iran: We would like to trade wtih you. (SECRET) We do not want to joint the Arab League, but we will be separately allied with you.

South Africa:
To Iran: (SECRET) We know you do not plan to take over india, only liberate Pakistan. WE also are interested in attacking India, to take away their colony in Africa.