19-04-2003 12:21									#91
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Duh. The alternative is One World Government. Which I wouldn't mind, of course...

Well, as long as they speak French. . .

	19-04-2003 12:21									#92
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Armies are terribly passé, what.

We'll culture-flip you if it's the last thing we do. We've already secured Hollywood and large parts of New York.

	19-04-2003 12:21									#93
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quote: You guys might want to build an army before you start discussing how you're going to divvy up the US.

Who needs an army when we have clever wordplay and state-name puns?!

(Is it time to call in the JTF-2s, yet?)

	19-04-2003 12:22									#94
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I call being run by Western Canada or the UK! Bethesda cedes all territory to the UK and commonwealth.

	19-04-2003 12:24									#95
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quote: We'll culture-flip you if it's the last thing we do. We've already secured Hollywood and large parts of New York.

I don't know what's funnier: the belief that Canada has any influence on the US or the belief that the US has any culture that could be "flipped".

	19-04-2003 12:24									#96
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quote: Originally posted by Frogger Armies are terribly passé, what. We'll culture-flip you if it's the last thing we do. We've already secured Hollywood and large parts of New York.

Nary a truer word was spoken . . .

	19-04-2003 12:38									#97
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Well, they admit defeat. I guess our work here is done.

	19-04-2003 12:43									#98
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quote: Originally posted by cinch I vote for John A. Macdonaldland. It just rolls right off the tongue!

DON'T YOU DARE!

The names are about the only things we Native Americans can call our own, anymore!

	19-04-2003 12:44									#99
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Indeed it is, to the extent you wish to have Hollywood and large parts of New York (and Martin Sheen, et al.) More power to ya!!! May you have better luck with them than we have!

	19-04-2003 12:50									#100
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quote: I don't know what's funnier: the belief that Canada has any influence on the US or the belief that the US has any culture that could be "flipped".

	19-04-2003 12:52									#101
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DT- Well put.

	19-04-2003 13:15									#102
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No hard feelings. Really. OK?

We don't have to put the moose on alert or something, do we?

	19-04-2003 13:29									#103
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No hard feelings at all. Although you may want to put the moose on alert, I hear that Susan Saradon is particularily fond of them...

	19-04-2003 13:38									#104
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Oh ****.

Call up the beaver.

	19-04-2003 22:04									#105
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I don't know if this had been suggested before, I don't feel like reading through this whole thing, but instead of stripping France's position, instead make it an EU seat.

While France alone may not deserve it, they of course wouldn't accept being stripped of their position outright, but expanding their spot to an EU seat would be good. Certainly the EU is more than deserving, and it would still give a good deal of control to France as they exert much influence with the EU.

Problem solved?

	19-04-2003 22:18									#106
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An EU seat would be a good idea in the future, but is completely unrealistic right now. As of today, foreign policy is almost stricly under the responsibility of nation States within the EU, and the 'Common Foreign and Security Policy' has no authority on its own. This will evolve in time, but the foreign and military integration of the EU is pure fiction yet.

	19-04-2003 22:21									#107
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I don't want the EU speaking for the UK.

	19-04-2003 22:22									#108
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's I don't want the EU speaking for the UK.

Isn't the UK still only half-way in the EU? They haven't accepted the Euro, right?

So an EU seat for all the EU except the UK.

	19-04-2003 22:24									#109
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OK, sure. And the UK keeps its.

	19-04-2003 22:28									#110
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quote: An EU seat would be a good idea in the future, but is completely unrealistic right now. As of today, foreign policy is almost stricly under the responsibility of nation States within the EU, and the 'Common Foreign and Security Policy' has no authority on its own. This will evolve in time, but the foreign and military integration of the EU is pure fiction yet.

Very true. This is why you should start out by giving the seat to a member state voted in by the EU, not the EU itself. If the EU ever does develop into a full-fledged political union, then you could transfer the seat over to the EU itself.

	19-04-2003 22:33									#111
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Hopefully, France has been allowed a voice for the last time.

	19-04-2003 23:02									#112
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The veto seems to be a big issue since it is absolute. Why not grant certain members a limited veto such as the one the US president has . . . a veto that can be over-ridden by a special majority in favor of a resolution. You could make it so that a veto by one of the big 5 could only be overturned by a positive vote of say 80 % of the security council and a veto by two big 5 members is absolute.

This idea remains problematic but I see it as a better structure than absolute vetos.

	19-04-2003 23:05									#113
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My solution is the only one that makes sense.

Thank you.

	19-04-2003 23:40									#114
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NYE: I would seriously like Minnesota to become part of Canada. The US is too full of conservatives for us Minnesotans. Kick out Gov. Pawlenty while your at it.

Vetoes should be removed, the size of the SC should be inceased to 25, and here are what the permenent members should be:

US
Germany
UK
Australia
China
Russia
South Africa
Egypt
India
Brazil

	20-04-2003 00:34									#115
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No, vetoes need to go. They are POINTLESS.

The "secuirty council" (though there would be no point in having it) should be US, Brazil, Germany, Russia, , India, Egypt, South Africa, China, and Australia.

	20-04-2003 00:38									#116
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France stays.

	20-04-2003 00:39									#117
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If someone should go it's US/UK, there're the ones that violated UN procedures.

	20-04-2003 00:41									#118
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I mean the contribution of France to Europe is somehing the UK can only dream about.... so they deserve it wholeheartedly.

	20-04-2003 00:45									#119
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Plus the way that France (Russia and CHina and Germany) gave the finger to the US in the UN... man.. priceless

	20-04-2003 00:46									#120
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Plus the way that France (Russia and CHina and Germany) gave the finger to the US in the UN... man.. priceless

You also have to consider that France and Russia recieved the forbidden "Unaniomous Clap" in the UN.

Britain and America........didn't