26-04-2003 23:54									#61
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If you open up Spybot and go to Tools --> Processes it will show the same thing as Ctrl-Alt-Delete, just with a more verbose output. (It will tell you where the program is installed and usually you can make out what it is).

	27-04-2003 00:14									#62
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Well...I will try that. But still I am scared to kill running processes when I don't know what they are. Plus, do I kill them once and they stay dead or do I kill them each time I restart?

	27-04-2003 00:18									#63
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From the ctrl-alt-delete screen if you kill them, they will stay dead until you reboot.

When you reboot they will start up again.

The ones you shouldn't kill are the ones that say, "Windows" or "System" on them.

	27-04-2003 00:21									#64
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	27-04-2003 00:23									#65
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Right now it is all about me and my computer...

	27-04-2003 00:26									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker From the ctrl-alt-delete screen if you kill them, they will stay dead until you reboot. When you reboot they will start up again. The ones you shouldn't kill are the ones that say, "Windows" or "System" on them.

Ok, I will do some killing. Let me see what I have:

	27-04-2003 00:32									#67
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crap, how do I select and print the displayed processes under ctrl alt del? It won't let me select more than one.

	27-04-2003 00:36									#68
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You can't print them.

Hit print-screen, that will take a screenshot.

Then go to Paint and paste. Then you'll have to upload the picture here.

	27-04-2003 00:38									#69
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GP's processes:

xxx.exe Hot economists (Premium subscription)
tnomic.exe Thugganomics Weekly
GDP.exe GDP Monthly GDP statistics blather
sub.exe Modern Sub

	27-04-2003 00:50									#70
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here is what spybot had ( i was able to export a list. Than I had to determine the whole path of what i had exported. And then use WE to find it. And had to turn on "view hidden folders to get that".

Sheesh. I am really sick of Windows trying to be like a Mac. Give me back my 3.1.1. Or my NT.

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Spybot-S&D process list report, 4/26/2003 3:35:08 PM

PID: 0 ( 0) [System]
PID: 4 ( 0) System
PID: 164 ( 680) ALG.EXE
PID: 192 ( 680) C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
PID: 220 ( 680) C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
PID: 384 ( 4) \SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe
PID: 580 ( 384) CSRSS.EXE
PID: 604 ( 384) \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
PID: 652 ( 680) C:\WINDOWS\wanmpsvc.exe
PID: 680 ( 604) C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
PID: 692 ( 604) C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
PID: 912 ( 680) C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
PID: 1032 (1460) C:\WINDOWS\system32\cleanmgr.exe
PID: 1040 ( 680) C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
PID: 1184 ( 680) SVCHOST.EXE
PID: 1264 ( 680) SVCHOST.EXE
PID: 1460 (1436) C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
PID: 1524 ( 680) C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
PID: 1688 (1460) C:\WINDOWS\System32\RUNDLL32.EXE
PID: 1696 (1460) C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe
PID: 1704 (1460) C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
PID: 1712 (1460) C:\Program Files\Dell\AccessDirect\dadapp.exe
PID: 1740 (1460) C:\Program Files\MUSICMATCH\MUSICMATCH Jukebox\mm_tray.exe
PID: 1748 (1460) C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\navapw32.exe
PID: 1756 (1460) C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe
PID: 1768 (1460) C:\Program Files\Roxio\Easy CD Creator 5\DirectCD\DirectCD.exe
PID: 1776 (1460) C:\Program Files\BroadJump\Client Foundation\CFD.exe
PID: 3544 (1460) C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
PID: 3672 (1460) C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\SpybotSD.exe

	27-04-2003 00:51									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker You can't print them. Hit print-screen, that will take a screenshot. Then go to Paint and paste. Then you'll have to upload the picture here.

Well, what rocket scientist at MS didn't reallize people would want to record the list of processes? I will do it like you say. But it is ridiculous with the amount of people they have and the time they've spent that there are still so many poor ergonomic features.

	27-04-2003 00:53									#72
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Try all of these:

PID: 1696 (1460) C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe
PID: 1704 (1460) C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe
PID: 1712 (1460) C:\Program Files\Dell\AccessDirect\dadapp.exe
PID: 1740 (1460) C:\Program Files\MUSICMATCH\MUSICMATCH Jukebox\mm_tray.exe
PID: 1756 (1460) C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe
PID: 1776 (1460) C:\Program Files\BroadJump\Client Foundation\CFD.exe

	27-04-2003 00:56									#73
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quote: Originally posted by GP Well, what rocket scientist at MS didn't reallize people would want to record the list of processes? I will do it like you say. But it is ridiculous with the amount of people they have and the time they've spent that there are still so many poor ergonomic features.

Oh no dude don't go to the trouble to do the screenshot.

The Spybot thing you put here is perfect.

	27-04-2003 00:59									#74
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Here:

	27-04-2003 01:00									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker Try all of these: PID: 1696 (1460) C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPLpr.exe PID: 1704 (1460) C:\Program Files\Synaptics\SynTP\SynTPEnh.exe PID: 1712 (1460) C:\Program Files\Dell\AccessDirect\dadapp.exe PID: 1740 (1460) C:\Program Files\MUSICMATCH\MUSICMATCH Jukebox\mm_tray.exe PID: 1756 (1460) C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\RealPlay.exe PID: 1776 (1460) C:\Program Files\BroadJump\Client Foundation\CFD.exe

What you mean by try, kimosabe? try = kill? One at time or all die at once?

	27-04-2003 01:03									#76
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Oh yeah, kill one, then try to open up an app, and see if it's any faster.

Repeat the above process for those 6 processes

What is Synaptics?

	27-04-2003 01:03									#77
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here

	27-04-2003 01:04									#78
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screenie won't attach.

	27-04-2003 01:08									#79
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synaptics is my touchpad for my laptop. I don't think I should kill it. Although, I am using a mouse. I will try a reboot first...

	27-04-2003 01:09									#80
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Antivirus is on free-av.com
For recovery of messages go to C:\WINDOWS.000\Application Data\Identities\{C some weird number 3AED3B6703}\Microsoft\Outlook Express
this is the directory where are messages.
In outlook go to file - import > messages > chose program > import mail from directory. Do you remmember that directory above? Right it is the ONE.

When you'll try to recover messages from your backup it would be the right way to do so.

BTW your gf should send you the error message.

And your computer could use some regclean.

	27-04-2003 01:15									#81
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Yeah it sounds like a regclean is in order also.

	27-04-2003 01:17									#82
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 coffee shop? peacenick? hat? washington post?

Wall Street Journal (US edition). Best place for a finance journalist...

	27-04-2003 01:19									#83
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quote: Originally posted by raghar Antivirus is on free-av.com For recovery of messages go to C:\WINDOWS.000\Application Data\Identities\{C some weird number 3AED3B6703}\Microsoft\Outlook Express this is the directory where are messages. In outlook go to file - import > messages > chose program > import mail from directory. Do you remmember that directory above? Right it is the ONE. When you'll try to recover messages from your backup it would be the right way to do so. BTW your gf should send you the error message. And your computer could use some regclean.

ok. thank you. You seem to know your stuff, so:

1. What is regclean. What does it do, disadvantages, etc.

2. I will get her to send the error message or to write it down.

3. WRT the Outlook situation: any ideas where her old messages and adresses and such are? (different problem...but she renamed a file that had outlook in it (I guess) to not have her hubby's name on it. And it made it so that outlook looked brand new. she changed it back and all but can't find the old messages and stuff.

	27-04-2003 01:19									#84
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rebooting fixed my immediate problem. But how do I regclean. I will do that.

	27-04-2003 01:22									#85
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You'll need to download a registry cleaner.

Suggestions raghar?

	27-04-2003 01:22									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy space works now I see. You could always try Poly's parasite checker, see if that turns out anything...

What is this?

	27-04-2003 01:25									#87
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I believe that's when you go to the front page of Apolyton, it will check your computer to see if you have a parasite. If you don't have it it won't show.

(It'll actually say on the front page if you have the parasite).

	27-04-2003 01:28									#88
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(this is too obvious a setup but...) How do I get to the "front page of Apolyton"?

	27-04-2003 01:40									#90
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I went there. Couldn't find anyplace where it told me whether I had a parasite or was free. Maybe Mark doesn't have that feature anymore?