26-04-2003 01:12									#61
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you forgot PrinceBimz. and since you´re looking for a proper information minister this crazy guy can truly compete with anything Iraq has ever seen.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=79293

	26-04-2003 01:16									#62
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Japher, I should have said something to you, but was so amused over Menlas that I didn't read down far enough.


I'm laying out my platform for a congressional run, and plan to release here to test the waters.
Some of you may be surprised, when you compare what you think you know, with what really is.

	26-04-2003 02:31									#63
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well considering I'm arabic, I'd be the only one the Iraqis would even consider not rioting against...

	26-04-2003 02:37									#64
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I have deep Moroccan roots... I found that out when I was in Spain doing research on my family roots.. on my vacation. So they may not mind me either...

	26-04-2003 02:53									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000

Tass, Still remember my broadside about flag burning?

BTW, I apologize for that.

	26-04-2003 02:59									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Ned would be ideal, since he usually doesn't very circumstantially explain his motives (which would very quickly make everyone quite pissed), but is always cleverly looking for the best alternatives to the US goverment.

Tuomerehu, actually I am trolling half the time. Some of what I write is so outrageous as to make even me laugh!

Think of me as your pro-American troll.

	26-04-2003 03:10									#67
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Wow! My opinion of Ned just went way up then

quote: well considering I'm arabic, I'd be the only one the Iraqis would even consider not rioting against...

"I'm Arabic" he says You're like 1/4 Lebanese...give me a break

	26-04-2003 03:12									#68
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My only problem with being appointed dictator is that I believe in democracy.

But as dictator, I would install a constitution modelled on the US constittution, get state governments up and running, hold elections for senate and the house of representatives, and then hold presidential elections so that I could hand power to my successor.

I would be a very bad dictator, not in the usual mode.

Now, if you appointed a communist instead of a neo-con, well that would be another story, wouldn't it?

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	26-04-2003 03:17									#69
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Actually I think that America is in a state fo serious decline. And I am not as pro-American as people here think. In fact I have written a book about the hypocrisy of Americans and our propensity to give God the credit or blame for our own selfish desires. I support the United States on this forum because of it's left leaning, anti-American majority. If the left would come up with some logic to support their ridiculous assertions then maybe you could convert me. As it stands now I am acting as a counterweight.

	26-04-2003 03:17									#70
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quote: actually I am trolling half the time

The scary part is, I didn't knew that.

	26-04-2003 03:22									#71
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Orange:

Actually I'm half arabic... not completely lebanese though... my family originates in upper egypt and the sudan.

And by the way... I'm also not particularily pro-American... I find a lot wrong with america but ultimately, the basic idea of america and its potential for greatness makes me defend it.


thanks

	26-04-2003 03:28									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu The scary part is, I didn't knew that.

I should use these little mood indicators more often, then.

	26-04-2003 03:28									#73
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trolling means putting on an act, right? like a parody (or not) to get attention by being so extreme?

	26-04-2003 03:32									#74
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it was obvious to me that Ned was not always being serious... always thought of him as a moderate (probably moderate democrat) who liked playing games by pretending to be an extreme right-winger.

	26-04-2003 03:35									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer Orange: Actually I'm half arabic... not completely lebanese though... my family originates in upper egypt and the sudan. And by the way... I'm also not particularily pro-American... I find a lot wrong with america but ultimately, the basic idea of america and its potential for greatness makes me defend it. thanks

Yeah, Albert, we are an idealistic people. It makes one feel really good when we live up to those ideals. Our problems, to the extent we have them, stem primarily from our history of slavery and racism generally, a general protestant legacy of distrust of Catholicism and of any non Christian religion, and in the last few decades, an arrogance of power.

	26-04-2003 03:43									#76
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Why not me? I'd make a wonderful dictator. I could personally supervise the illegal medical experimnents. Say, how about a black market on living Irqaqi bodies to be sold to major pharmaceutical companies? I could have Iraq up and working in no time flat!

	26-04-2003 03:51									#77
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu The scary part is, I didn't knew that.

I knew he had to be, nobody is that whacked.

	26-04-2003 03:56									#78
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*cough*

	26-04-2003 04:08									#79
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quote: Actually I think that America is in a state fo serious decline. And I am not as pro-American as people here think. In fact I have written a book about the hypocrisy of Americans and our propensity to give God the credit or blame for our own selfish desires. I support the United States on this forum because of it's left leaning, anti-American majority. If the left would come up with some logic to support their ridiculous assertions then maybe you could convert me. As it stands now I am acting as a counterweight. __________________ War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth fighting for is much worse. A man who has nothihg for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares about more than his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill, 1896

1) I am not Pro-American
2) I have written a book about the hypocrisy of America
3) I am pro-US on this forum because I don't agree with the politics of those that don't support the United States on this forum
4) The left has no facts to back up its assertions, which have an anti-American flavour.
5) If the left did have facts to back up their anti-American assertions, they could convince me not to be pro-American.

And you close with a quote from a socialist. I love it.

	26-04-2003 04:09									#80
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat I knew he had to be, nobody is that whacked.

Yeah, let's bomb France tomorrow!

	26-04-2003 04:12									#81
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What about me?

And orange, Mill was a liberal capitalist. Though I guess you could call him socialist if you were thinking of those anarchy people .

	26-04-2003 04:13									#82
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Do you have a problem with someone who gleans the best from both sides orange? I am almost in direct center btw, kind of makes you think what Apolyton is doesn't it?

	26-04-2003 04:20									#83
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quote: Originally posted by orange 1) I am not Pro-American 2) I have written a book about the hypocrisy of America 3) I am pro-US on this forum because I don't agree with the politics of those that don't support the United States on this forum 4) The left has no facts to back up its assertions, which have an anti-American flavour. 5) If the left did have facts to back up their anti-American assertions, they could convince me not to be pro-American. And you close with a quote from a socialist. I love it.

1. I did not say that.
2. Yes, that is true.
3. I did not say that.
4. I did not say that.
5. I did not say that.

Well 1 out of 5 is not too bad for a socialist I guess.

	26-04-2003 04:20									#84
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quote: Do you have a problem with someone who gleans the best from both sides orange? I am almost in direct center btw, kind of makes you think what Apolyton is doesn't it?

No, i have a problem with someone that contradicts his own thoughts.

You say you've written a book about how the US is hypocritical, yet you say in the same paragraph that leftists (who often are anti-American) have no proof to back up their beliefs, therefore you become pro-American to counter balance it.

Either you're pro-America policies or you're not. You seem to indicate that you're not, so why change your mind just because others who share the same views on American Policy differ on economic and domestic policy?

	26-04-2003 04:21									#85
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I find it hilarious that the right here claim they are centrists and that Poly is full of anti-American lefties, and many Poly lefties who claim to be centrist retreat to CGN and claim that Poly is rife with quasi-fascist pro-American blind flag-waving patriotism.

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quote: And orange, Mill was a liberal capitalist. Though I guess you could call him socialist if you were thinking of those anarchy people .

Heh, had him confused with Robert Owen.

	26-04-2003 04:23									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch I find it hilarious that the right here claim they are centrists and that Poly is full of anti-American lefties, and many Poly lefties who claim to be centrist retreat to CGN and claim that Poly is rife with quasi-fascist pro-American blind flag-waving patriotism.

Depends on what you're looking at, I suppose. For America, this is definitely left-wing. Very left wing. For the world, it's probably slightly right-wing.

	26-04-2003 04:24									#88
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I am pro common sense. Something that is often lacking at Apolyton. I support the current administration because it is not as bad as the previous one. And I do not believe in basing my philosopy of life on irrational hatred for a nation that is part good and part bad like all other nations in this world.

	26-04-2003 04:26									#89
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Whether its left or right is not that important. Its that both side are claiming the other has overun the sensibility of the majority. Effectively both sides are claiming defeat (or at least to being the underdog). That is what is amusing.

	26-04-2003 04:27									#90
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quote: Originally posted by orange Depends on what you're looking at, I suppose. For America, this is definitely left-wing. Very left wing. For the world, it's probably slightly right-wing.

I agree with this.