27-04-2003 03:26									#1
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You guys made a lot of fun of an early painting I did. I look at that painting and do see some inaccuracies.. but it was good for my first major one.

But my skills have gone so far... you won't believe what I did recently. Do any of you know who Jacques Louis David is? I know he is French (well.. not all frenchies are bad).. but he is a famous artist who did one of Napoleon. I used his style and sense of accuracy in a painting I did of General George S. Patton Jr.

If any of you are WWII vets or know somebody who is.. show them this painting...

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	27-04-2003 03:29									#2
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Very, VERY impressive

	27-04-2003 03:30									#3
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Thanks man... It is my most major project ever.

	27-04-2003 03:30									#4
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'ey, that's pretty cool!

	27-04-2003 03:35									#5
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Wow, that's a hell of a lot better than anything I could do.

	27-04-2003 03:36									#6
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not bad

	27-04-2003 03:37									#7
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Hey, not bad at all. You still have some issues with perspective, but the detailing and shading are quite good.

	27-04-2003 03:37									#8
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It took about 2 1/2 months. The first one I did of the flag raising took 2 weeks.

quote: You still have some issues with perspective

You have some issues wiht seeing things that are not there. So stop it.

	27-04-2003 03:39									#9
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Methinks his nose is too pointy... *DRoseDARs ducks and runs*



Well, someone had to provide a critical comment.

Better it comes from one who DOESN'T have it out for ya', Fez.

Oh, and welcome back from the ether; we missed you.

EDIT: Damn, Boris beat me to it.

	27-04-2003 03:39									#10
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Oh well can't please everybody. Boris just says this because he does not like me. It took me 10 weeks to get the perspective on the track that my art teacher wanted. I am in an IB class.

And after hours of looking at the photo in the history book, I do not think his nose is too pointy at all.

But criticism always comes to artists. No matter how good. Even Jacques David had harsh criticism.

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	27-04-2003 03:45									#11
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My response was a compliment, if you didn't notice, you ungrateful cur. I think an honest response, even with a minor criticism, is worth more than blind praise/disdain.

	27-04-2003 03:47									#12
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I am quite offended that you choose to insult the perspective as that is what I put the most work into.

But as I said, all artists, no matter how damn good, will have people like you criticizing them. Heck that is life. You always have somebody out there who will criticize you. Sometimes it is best to turn a blind eye. Sometimes not.

	27-04-2003 03:48									#13
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If you think giving an honest critique is an insult, then you're in for a lot of being insulted. I am stunned you would choose to harp on that, which wasn't an insult at all, and ignore the fact that my impression was overall positive.

That's no way to react to people when they respond to your work, it's childish and negative.

	27-04-2003 03:52									#14
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Hmm, just so we're clear: I was being a butthead 'cause I felt eventually someone would come along who actually meant to insult, so I figured I'd beat them to it by poking fun. Also, I didn't sense Boris' comment as being "critical" but being a "critique" which is what you want in art. Fez, he wasn't trying to insult you in my estimation.

*Sigh* And the cycle continues...

	27-04-2003 03:53									#15
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You're too sensitive Fez. You're picture is very good, it must have taken a lot of work and I think we're all impressed. You should be proud of it.

However, if you aren't prepared to accept some honest and friendly critiques then you'll find it hard to improve.

	27-04-2003 03:56									#16
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I am turning a blind eye to Boris right now.. I will just wait for more comments from other people. An artist can either turn a blind eye or listen. I am not going to listen.

	27-04-2003 03:59									#17
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I can't imagine what your poor art teacher has to suffer through when it comes to trying to help you with your work. He/she must have fits of apoplectic fury.

	27-04-2003 04:01									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Fez I am turning a blind eye to Boris right now.. I will just wait for more comments from other people. An artist can either turn a blind eye or listen. I am not going to listen.

Fez, he was giving an unbiased review, same as anyone else "critiqueing" a piece of artwork.

He WASN'T attacking it.

FustratedPoet is right, you're being too sensitive. Go get a soda (or beer if you prefer ), sit in front of your computer, and bask in the glory and awe that is Apolyton.

	27-04-2003 04:02									#19
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4 months of wear, and he's still the same.

	27-04-2003 04:07									#20
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Lawrence, except I drink beer more often... say... let me get one...

quote: I can't imagine what your poor art teacher has to suffer through when it comes to trying to help you with your work. He/she must have fits of apoplectic fury.

He actually put up a sign near me saying "Don't put yourself down, just have patience".

I am sorry I reacted to harshly.. it is just this is my biggest art project ever... I was too sensitive....

	27-04-2003 04:14									#21
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Praise be the Banana! Fez admitted he "was too sensitive"!

The beer must already working its way through your system.

Anyway, overall the painting looks fine. Won't fetch a high-bid in London's art scene but certainly worthy of an "A" in class.

	27-04-2003 04:15									#22
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Fez, I thought you had left for two years?

	27-04-2003 04:16									#23
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Two years... gah... must of been all the stuff in my life that I forgot I made that statement. The prom... which is dangerous stuff as my relationship is unique than everybody else's. Just tons of stuff.

The art probably wouldn't be up with the Mona Lisa or something.. but it does its job.

	27-04-2003 04:18									#24
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quote: Go get a soda

Soda = bad
Water = good.
Thou shall not advertize soda.
Soda = bad
Water = good.
In fact, do not drink soda.
Soda = bad
Water = good.
Soda is bad for you.
Soda = bad
Water = good.
Soda is Evil.

...

* VJ shrugs *
You may now carry on your duties, my fellow citizens.

	27-04-2003 04:20									#25
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Hey, going without Apolyton for any length of time can exagerate the percieved rate at which that time passes, so I'd say it was closer to THREE years PST ('Poly Standard Time) he's been gone.

Bear in mind what happens when the Apolyton servers go down...and refugee camps go up.

	27-04-2003 04:30									#26
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Nice painting

	27-04-2003 04:37									#27
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Nice painting, definately better than what I could do

Thing is... something just doesn't click with me. It could be the perspective still...

Regardless, it's an amazing painting, and obviously it will improve the more you do it. Great achievement

	27-04-2003 04:40									#28
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Thanks... the perspective had a lot of work.. I just sigh when I hear it wasn't tip top... but hey... perfection is not possible as we are all human.

	27-04-2003 04:44									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Fez Thanks... the perspective had a lot of work.. I just sigh when I hear it wasn't tip top... but hey... perfection is not possible as we are all human.

Perfection takes years to achieve Fez, and considering how young you are, things can only get better. Good luck for whatever the future may hold for you

	27-04-2003 04:47									#30
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Perfection is actually impossible I think as we are all human. Very damn good is what I am aiming for. I think I achieved it about 99%... well at least I hope.

On a different subject, the prom.. I am afraid of going.. my relationship is the first of its type to be at the prom in my school.