28-04-2003 23:33									#1
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Do you consider yourself white trash?

I can't seem to escape it. I grew up very poor. I'm not poor now, I make pretty good money- although I still live in a poor neighborhood. I just don't feel worthy enough to live in nice neighborhoods. I feel out of place. I was in a nice trendy bar the other day, and I just didn't feel comfortable. I am more comfortable amongst poor people. I'm not sure why that is.

I once said I wanted to live in a town near where I live. Another poster from the same city I live in said that was a white trash town. That kind of hurt a little bit. But I admitted I am white trash.

While I may not be poor like I used to, I still can't seem to change my behaviour to be higher class. What can I say, I still like cheech and chong movies .

Perhaps I can go to one of those schools that teach you good manners.

P.S. I do fail to meet one requirement though. I do not like wrestling. That is too silly, even for me.

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	28-04-2003 23:39									#2
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A better poll whould have been:

Do you think Dissident is white trash?



There is a difference between white trash and poor. If people can't see the difference, no matter the income bracket, then I would consider them the white trash.

But, if you relate to Springer in anyway, then yes, you would be white trash.



ACK!

	28-04-2003 23:45									#3
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I'm a middle class white male twentysomething that is going its way to belong to the educated class. As such, I absolutely obey Stefu's definition of a forum member. Hence, I cannot be a "white trash" like you describe.

However, I hate upper class gatherings very strongly, and their smugness too.

	28-04-2003 23:46									#4
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Having moved in many different social circles in my life, I can say that most of the people living in the so-called fancy neighborhoods are just as trashy as the poor folk, they can just afford to be a little more discreet about it.

	28-04-2003 23:48									#5
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I ****ing hate this expression.

	28-04-2003 23:52									#6
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perhaps you guys are right. I don't like Springer or wrestling. Well I used to watch springer when they had fighting. But I was in the service, and I only watched because that is what everyone else wanted to watch.

another thing is art. I just can't get into it. And operals, ballets, and broadway shows. I don't see what the appeal is. Don't get me started on abstract art. It's crap.

	28-04-2003 23:52									#7
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"White trash" is hard to define, but I know it when I see it.

	28-04-2003 23:55									#8
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takes one to know one?

j/k

	29-04-2003 00:03									#9
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Think my life is the complete reverse of yours Diss, started with lots, now am poor (but when I got my degree watch out! ).

Oh but I hate wrestling too.

I certainly don't consider myself trash. Some of my neighbours are trash, I live in a trashy area.

It is an awful expression.

And just because somebody is poor, doesn't make them trash, and just because somebody is rich doesn't mean they're not. It's attitudes that would make someone 'trash' IMO.

Class is a joke. I know good people from every band, and the same goes for bad people.

In the old days I was quite outspoken about this 'modern art' rubbish. Don't like something just because culture may dictate it's 'classy' stay true to yourself.

I'm rambling now...

	29-04-2003 00:04									#10
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I don't consider myself white trash and I like cheech and chong movies!

	29-04-2003 00:14									#11
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"I don't consider myself white trash and I like cheech and chong movies!"

I dont think that's one of the criteria.

If you have/are into the following, you might be white trash:

Mullet.
Nascar Jacket and or Accessories.
Double wide trailer.
Listen to kid rock and/or Toby Keith.
Chain smoke marlboro reds.
Consider wife-beater t-shirt as casual wear.
Have rear window sticker of Calvin peeing on Ford or chevy.

Though I am fairly poor, I do not meet those criteria (fortunately). But know many that do. These are my people.

	29-04-2003 00:23									#12
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I think I meet two of those criteria DetroitDave

well I don't really listen to kid rock, but I do like a couple of his songs.

actually I have a Nascar license plate, so that makes 3 things. . I didn't use to like Nascar. But I spent 8 years in the south in the military. I just picked it up.

	29-04-2003 00:30									#13
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I chain smoke generic cigs--Guess Im even poorer than white trash

	29-04-2003 00:42									#14
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quote: actually I have a Nascar license plate, so that makes 3 things. . I didn't use to like Nascar. But I spent 8 years in the south in the military. I just picked it up.

The typical Michigan species (Michigandus Beerbellius ) usually has more than a passing interest in NASCAR, typically owning season passes to Brooklyn Speedway where he makes his annual migration with keg of beer, and huge flag with his favorite driver's name, in tow.

Just in case, I would start watching lots of public television immediately.

	29-04-2003 00:44									#15
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I am, without a shadow of a doubt, the English equivalent of White Trash.

I've drunk too much scrumpy, I've got into fights with Gypsies at funfairs and I once owned an XR3i.

	29-04-2003 00:48									#16
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public television? too liberal for my tastes

	29-04-2003 00:55									#17
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I come from a very poor family (bottom 5%), and make very little money myself, but I like artsy stuff like going to an opera. Heh, go figure. Diss and I are sort of the yin and yang to each other I suppose.
Although like Diss, I feel more comfortable being around my old friends from the projects than affluent, possibly snobby, people.

	29-04-2003 00:56									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp I am, without a shadow of a doubt, the English equivalent of White Trash. I've drunk too much scrumpy, I've got into fights with Gypsies at funfairs and I once owned an XR3i.

Do you also sit in your garden in a string vest, play music until 2:30 am with total disregard for neighbours, and chant Ing-ur-lund at the TV when the footy's on?

Re: Gypsy fights- they're always asking for it... chopsy little gypsy punks. Havent'y been back to Weston-super-Mare since... should I change my vote to YES since I've fought with gypsies?

	29-04-2003 00:57									#19
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Thankfully, I am not nor is anyone in my family poor white trash. A person can be poor and still not be trashy all it takes is a desire not to be crass and to remember how you are portraying yourself to other people.

The correct attitude will move you out of the "trash" category even if your income limits your physical circumstances. When I was in college just about all of my friends and I were poor students but believe me when I say being poor doesn't make you trash; acting like trash makes you trash.

	29-04-2003 01:05									#20
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Being "hispanic" and an Immmigrant, i am automatically not white trash...plus I had a solid middle class upbringing, both in Panama (I had a live in maid once..) and here in the US.

	29-04-2003 01:08									#21
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Yesh right, try to keep up the lie. We all know by now that you had a lot more than a maid back in your little banana republic.

	29-04-2003 01:11									#22
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We had several! But not all at once, more like in succession.

Don't make me call my Mossad buddies..I mean, what Mossad buddies?....

	29-04-2003 01:18									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident another thing is art. I just can't get into it. And operals, ballets, and broadway shows. I don't see what the appeal is. Don't get me started on abstract art. It's crap.

Hell, that makes over 90% of the people I know white trash. Well, except for the ones who aren't white, I guess.

Another rubric to apply is that 90% of the people who do like operas, ballets, broadway shows, and abstract art are snobbish cheese-eating beatniks.

	29-04-2003 01:26									#24
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quote: Don't make me call my Mossad buddies..I mean, what Mossad buddies?....

*sigh* told you not to talk about it.


*drags GePap away. *

	29-04-2003 02:56									#25
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quote: Originally posted by GePap (I had a live in maid once..)

I know several maids I would like to have

I wonder how much those run. I think I could afford a live in maid if I stretched my income. She'd have to be hot though. And she'd have to be willing to have sex with me.

But perhaps I'm not acting trashy, but acting poor as some people have suggested. I never really recognized the difference, but I suppose there is one.

	29-04-2003 03:01									#26
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I don't think I would classify anyone on 'Poly as being white trash. There aren't requirements for being white trash per se. As a Supreme Court Justice once said, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it."

	29-04-2003 03:05									#27
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I sometimes veer in the direction of euro-trash but that's less mullets and cheap beer and more bleached blonde hair and fancy beer.

	29-04-2003 03:12									#28
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quote: Originally posted by DetroitDave The typical Michigan species (Michigandus Beerbellius ) usually has more than a passing interest in NASCAR, typically owning season passes to Brooklyn Speedway where he makes his annual migration with keg of beer, and huge flag with his favorite driver's name, in tow.

Sad but true.


At the hospital, some call obese patients "Michigan Class One" or so on and so forth, due to our state's preponderence of pendulus potbellies... I've treated more than a few Michigan Class Fours.

	29-04-2003 03:29									#29
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Why is it that when I saw the title to this thread, I immediately thought Albert Speer was the one who made it?

	29-04-2003 03:35									#30
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he's usually rallying against white suburban Apolyoners who are privelidged in his eyes.

Well I kind of thought the same way when I was a teenager. I grew up in the inner city when I was age 15 to 18.

the bitterness goes away with time. Well not really .