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Ghostbear is offline Ghostbear
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Jan 2003
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I have been giving the data patch a chance. Hmmm, big changes (not), I had one weak planet invaded on turn 275.

Anyway, I thought the reduced missile warhead damage was helping until:

I rocked in to an enemy system with major defenses with 8 battle groups.

I sent my "disposable" short range attack group ahead and launched fighters at the planet (holding the missile ships until the orbitals appeared).

My 2 long range attach groups were behind the short range group. Each of these was four super dreadnaughts in an armada with a bunch of lightning field armed escorts.

Here comes the first missile salvo. It hits the short range group with only shield damage.

I begin launching missiles and close the gap between the short range and long range groups so they can share PD against the waves of fighters that are rolling in.

THEN...

A missile salvo comes in, skips the short range group and hits a long range group. Result? All four super dreadnaughts blow up, none of the escorts are destroyed.

I am very unhappy, do you know how long it took to build those sDNs? and vow to put MOO on the shelf until the patch comes out.

On to Tropico 2 (senor).

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I guess that planet was not so weak after all...

Orbitals are tough, and I am happy it is that way. In Moo2 the orbitals were useless, and nobody cared to build them

SINISTER1974 is offline SINISTER1974
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1st off, data patch isnt going to make the AI fight better--you have to wait for the code patch. 2nd orbitals are for planet defense. Dont cry when you lose some good ships. Loses are expected when assaulting a planet. 3rd, as in real life the military targets the larger more powerful equipment ( in moo it would be ships/fleets). Take that out its easier to defeat the enemy. And im sure your ships may have been targeted.

WAIT for the code patch, have patience and your waiting will be rewarded.

Rogan Josh is offline Rogan Josh
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quote:
Originally posted by SINISTER1974
WAIT for the code patch, have patience and your waiting will be rewarded.


Do you really believe that?

Daz is offline Daz
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Well, thats what happened to CIV3. So I guess Moo3 is fixable too.

Though, it will never be as good as I expected it to be...

Ozymandous is offline Ozymandous
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Let's see, no shields, weak armor, or no PD on the Dreadnaughts? One of these has to be the case since the previous missle salvo didn't kill the escort fleet.

Sounds like you're blaming poor ship design on a game imbalance.

Will you complain when your Scooner or Frigate is sunk and your pirate captain captured while away on a voyage as well???

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"Do you really believe that? "


If all you haters dislike this game and only want to make stupid comments--why do you even bother coming here and posting?

There hasnt been a game i have bought that didnt need HUGE patch fixes.

I think the only one that wasnt real bad was total war mideval.

Hearts of Iron-- a great game-was weak at first. AI really sucked and was boring. After a patch or two that game is awesome.

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If all you haters dislike this game and only want to make stupid comments--why do you even bother coming here and posting?


Because we spend good money on this game and are still clinging onto hope that it might improve.... because we were fans of MoO2 and can't believe what they have done to the franchise.... because we can't believe that the game can really be as bad as it seems and think that we must be doing something wrong....

Need I go on?

quote:

There hasnt been a game i have bought that didnt need HUGE patch fixes.


That's the point - can this be fixed with patches? I think it probably can, but others may disagree. This is certainly the shoddiest game I have seen in a very long time.

And there are plenty of games (most in fact) which give an enjoyable experience straight out of the box. MoO3 doesn't.

quote:

Hearts of Iron-- a great game-was weak at first. AI really sucked and was boring. After a patch or two that game is awesome.


You are trying to compare Paradox with Quicksilver? Dream on!

Harry Seldon is offline Harry Seldon
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quote:
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There hasnt been a game i have bought that didnt need HUGE patch fixes.


Try Galactic Civilizations. It works great out of the box.

quote:
Originally posted by SINISTER1974
If all you haters dislike this game and only want to make stupid comments--why do you even bother coming here and posting?


I agree; it's why I quit posting here. Couldn't resist the chance to promote GalCiv while checking for a code patch...

The Templar is offline The Templar
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If all you haters dislike this game and only want to make stupid comments--why do you even bother coming here and posting?


Just to tweak little vomit-chewers like you.

I've got a better question, Sinister1974. Is Quicksilver paying you? If not, why are you defending a broken game with such passion? Do you feel the need to justify the $50 you flushed down the can on this one by lauding MoO3?

Because unless Quicksilver is paying you, you got ripped off like the rest of us.

(Of course, my opinion might change if that much lauded patch ever appears and fixes several things. But I'm not holding my breath.)

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I didnt get ripped off, i like moo3. There are a few major/minnor bugs but i have patience and can wait for the patch. Because i know once they release that patch moo3 will rock. Plus im not a whinny sniveling crybaby like most people in here.

How can a company rip you off--they didnt force you to buy this game. And you could have returned it.

Im not 100% satisfied with moo3, but i think its a little to much to post your anti-moo3 statements all over the forum. 1 post will do. Repeating the same crap over and over isnt only annoying but its not needed. Quicksilver knows the problems and are working on it to fix. Now its just a waste of time for you to whine about it. If you cant wait a few more days/weeks well thats your problem.

Also this post was more to the line of a person having trouble attacking planets. People rather cry about the game than to admit they have lack of skill. I have never had trouble taking out planets even with smaller force than his. But its always moo3 fault. LOL. And instead of giving advice to the poor guy you rather jump on my for telling him to have patience.

If you guys dislike moo3 so much -try a mod, play multiplayer--i garantee you will get hammered in mp. But crying in the forum this late once we already know they have the code patch 90% complete is just stupid.

waiting for the release of moo3--yes the game should have been perfect--but is acting like a 3 yr old and crying about it really worth your time? LOL.

need a diaper change?

krait23 is offline krait23
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"How can a company rip you off--they didnt force you to buy this game. And you could have returned it."

They brought out an incomplete game that even if patched will in no way meet the expectations of many many fans of the previous MoO games. Many people (like me) bought it without reading through forums or testing it because they didn't think anyone would dare to screw up a Master of Orion game so badly. And because of the long wait I am sure there were tons of preorders. Those people did get ripped off.

And assuming you are an american, there are other parts of the world too, and imported games cannot be returned in most cases. So we were screwed, and have every damn right to express out discomfort with what they did to the poor MoO franchise.

If you like the game, thats good for you. But most people don't, and the fact that the few who do always act like they are the majority and have the morale high ground is what is truly annoying.

Lata
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I didnt get ripped off, i like moo3.


Keep telling yourself that. Eventually you may even come to believe it.

Ghostbear is offline Ghostbear
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Most of the comments on this thread don't even rate a witty response. But try this...

What sound does a dead horse make?


MOO, MOO, MOO.

Ming is offline Ming
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Just to tweak little vomit-chewers like you.


If you want to complain about the game... fine.

If you want to insult people, do it at another site, because if you do it here again, you will get restricted.

JUST CHILL!

The Templar is offline The Templar
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If you want to insult people, do it at another site, because if you do it here again, you will get restricted.

JUST CHILL!


Someone's throwing their weight around again

You're not the moderator of this forum. Actually, are you still even a moderator on this board?

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Someone's throwing their weight around again

You're not the moderator of this forum. Actually, are you still even a moderator on this board?


Are you? No.

Then you can't insult other people that way and expect to get away with it.

ACK!

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Are you? No.

Then you can't insult other people that way and expect to get away with it.

ACK!


Obviously I'm not a moderator.
Then I'd have to ban myself.

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Obviously I'm not a moderator.
Then I'd have to ban myself.


Yes, but would you?



ACK!

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quote:
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Someone's throwing their weight around again


No... just responding because you were acting like a jerk

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You're not the moderator of this forum. Actually, are you still even a moderator on this board?




I have super moderator status on these boards. Which means that I not only moderate specific forums, but also any forums with no moderators assigned, or for that matter, any place on these forums where duty calls.

So start acting civil, or find another site to insult people on.

The Templar is offline The Templar
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I have super moderator status on these boards.


How nice for you. I thought you had been fired for abusing that status. Or are we not allowed to talk about that?

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So start acting civil, or find another site to insult people on.


Funny, the MoO3 board is consumed in flame posts and you're giving me grief about 'vomit-chewer'?

Get a life.

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Like anybody else that breaks the rules... I was punished... MarkG is an equal opportunity kind of guy...

And as far as all the flame posts... Since people were complaining about YOU the most... you are going to be the poster child to show that this kind of crap isn't going to continue.

So keep it up... and you will be the first restricted.

So have a nice day...

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Like anybody else that breaks the rules... I was punished... MarkG is an equal opportunity kind of guy...

And as far as all the flame posts... Since people were complaining about YOU the most... you are going to be the poster child to show that this kind of crap isn't going to continue.

So keep it up... and you will be the first restricted.

So have a nice day...


Who are these mysterious "people"?

The number of posts I make on the MoO3 boards is minimal. Are you saying the "vomit-chewer" comment generated the most complaints or that my posts on the MoO3 boards in general have generated the most complaints over all? I know I'm pretty cool, but cool enough to inflame an entire forum? I ain't that cool.

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No... you aren't cool... that's a given

But yes... It seems like you are just considered a jerk by many members here.

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No... you aren't cool... that's a given

But yes... It seems like you are just considered a jerk by many members here.


Ah, the indefinite "many members". Come on, give it a number.

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Well, I can't read minds... but over 10 members raised complaints about you... and jerk was one of the nicer things they called you.

So chill... follow the rules... stop your personal insults...

And back on topic. If you want to continue this discussion, please do so via PM...

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OMG! Dork drama!

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OMG! Dork drama!


You call them dorks? That's an insult.

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You call them dorks? That's an insult.


Nah, we're just a bunch of ming-a-lings!

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Ming tries to talk and reason with people. I know better, so I don't usually bother.

 
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