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Do you think it might be benificial to raze Narva, and then build a mine field on that square?

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Do you think it might be benificial to raze Narva, and then build a mine field on that square?


I was thinking this same thing. Im wondering if the massive attack the Germans did destroyed the anti tank defenses? So if we attack the population eventually goes to zero.

But the Karl is in all probability in there and winter or no winter that is a tough unit to destroy!

So do you risk attack yet or not? I wish we had some Katy rockets in Leningrad right now!

Where is the Armaments Minister? I want to choke someone right now!

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I like the idea, I'll make an attempt during the winter months I think...

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On the Karl issue, I am remembering something about the Karls actually not being the designated defender in a city stack.
Not sure where I got that from though.

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I tried it just now, the anti tank defences were destroyed. With only the left over units in Leningrad, I attacked, the karl never once defended, just Wehrmacht SG. However after the city wast destroyed, I was unable to destroy the stacked that remaind because there were Stukas in the city and there were no Polikarpovs within range.

Edit: the two t-26s were stuck outside with out movements points, but I was able to move the KV-1 back into Leningrad. I wonder if this is worth it, if for no other reason than to deny the Karl a place to heal.

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When winter comes...

Remember I have two KV1s now

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WOW, thats great!

I was wondering that because with 20 plus units in Narva when it fell you can image the huge battle that went on.

SG after SG and Tank after tank. I was hoping that anti tank got knocked out. Yea!

This only proves once more that my ability to smell out and destroy the Facists is God Like!

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the karl has movement zero at winter??
we have plenty of time to full the city with Katyushas

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the karl has movement zero at winter??
we have plenty of time to full the city with Katyushas


Yes i may change that T-34 that is almost done in Sverdlosk to a Katyusha. (if it isn't already done this turn.)

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yes, change it to Katyusha

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yes, change it to Katyusha


Will you like what we are doing in the north then?

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no, but it will help a little
is a democracy game and I'm giving my opinion, the ront comanders have to do what they think it best for his front

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no, but it will help a little
is a democracy game and I'm giving my opinion, the ront comanders have to do what they think it best for his front


No problem I agree, I was answering with my "game face" on. In r/l you are absoulutely right!

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With Leningrad saved, does this mean we can re-open the Murmansk front with a counterattack?

Winter doesn't start for a turn, and we can bag some of the lake-stealing Finns.

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With Leningrad saved, does this mean we can re-open the Murmansk front with a counterattack?

Winter doesn't start for a turn, and we can bag some of the lake-stealing Finns.


I think Yopov did what he could do on this front. It has been moving so fast I have to recheck his photo recon in his thread.

And dont get us wrong comrades where we can we will always strike out at the Facists!

Its just that right now, we cant do it everywhere. That however will change soon!

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I have no idea how the Wermacht SG got into Tikhvin (paradrop?) but it has now been driven out of there.
Furthermore trough some KV1 and T26 raids what remained of the city of Narva has been turned to rubble.

A large contignent of troops remain in that area however due to their arial support.

Two German tanks and one Hummel was tracked down by our Cossack and Partisan Regiments and killed in the Swamps surrounding Narva.

One village near Novgorod has made a splendid contribution to the motehrland and put up an entire regiment of quality tank destroyers.
These where moved to Luga...

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Henrik in winter land units can attack air units! I have done this many times! If possible and if you have any unit left that can attack then knock out that pile! It would be a tremendous victory!

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My Good you're right!

I'll have to reload my save then and move one more unit

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My Good you're right!


OF COURSE IM RIGHT COMRADE NEVER UNDERESTIMATE MY POWERS TO KILL FACISTS!

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Ah, forgive me ever doubting you, oh supreme comander

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No problem. I was just having "one of my moments......."

Good job in Leningrad Comrade!

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Why isn't there a hedgehog east of Leningrad? Don't the Germans normally block Leningrad, so you need to send reinforcements via Kitela and Viipuri? Just wondering.

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I think henrik moved a unit there so the hedgehog won´t appear

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Cool! Good job, comrade Henrikov

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Henrik

I usually dont like to question successfull front commanders such as yourself but why are you building an arty in Novogorod? The Hedgehog will be gone in summer, and dont you think you need some more cannon fodder for Leningrad?

Just wondering.....

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Actually, Leningrad itself is quite safe with the fortified batteries, you only need to guard it for air assaults. With artillery, you can destroy the panzers attacking towards cherepovets and Novogorod. In my games, I most times build tanks first and then artillery, for tanks can serve as artillery and have a greater movement rate and defence factor. But everybody plays his/her way!

PS I sometimes have units defecting to the germans, although they don't have diplomats nor spies? How do they do it? I lost some fortified batteries and partisans to them, now I stack my units (I reloaded the turn, for I consider this cheating of the AI)

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Actually, Leningrad itself is quite safe with the fortified batteries


Actually with Narva gone the Facists can get in this way and directly assault the city.

The roads are gone which slows them down but that Karl was sitting right next to Leningrad a few turns ago before it was destroyed.

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The Germans don't have few units capable of both traversing the terrain west of Leningrad and attacking it in one turn. Most will end up in the narva tile or on the industry tile. These will be killed by more mobile units of my own (and units on the swamps further west will be killed as well either via the sea or by air).

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I forgot that with Narva gone, there is a road open to Leningrad! Lucky for us we can reinforce the city from the East, without having to go round via Viipuri.

We must keep this city, named after our great leader Lenin!

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What are your plans for the Baltic front, comrade Henrikov? We could use some input to comment on!

 
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