29-04-2003 04:58									#1
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I think government in the future has the potential to be much better. Technology has improved the quality of life for humans. The purpose of this thread is for you to describe in your own words how a government in the future would work and whether it would be better or worse than present. Please refrain from bashing other people's beliefs in this thread. There are enough out there to do so.

I'll post my own thoughts on this matter later.

	29-04-2003 05:18									#2
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The need for government dissapears - the people will eventually learn to govern themselves... however this is not going to happen soon...

unless something supernatural happens and shortens the learning curve

	29-04-2003 05:25									#3
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technology accelerates the process of advancement, but being a double edged sword, our abilities to create wonderous things are matched by our ability to destroy horrifically.

as older governments try to clamp down on freedoms given their citizens, in the interests of security, and as newer states attempt to gain more political power on the global stage, the internet's ability to break through barriers starts to cause greater unrest among some of the more populated or formerly democratic states.

it all ends in an apoplectic apocalyptic cataclysm in which human technology is turned towards hellbent destruction.

mankind's last gasp is in antarctica, where the scientists find that their connections to the outside world have been severed, and are forced to eat each other.

	29-04-2003 05:32									#4
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however a few freeze and a million years later aliens come to the solar system and create clones out of a few remaining frozen cells so the new civilization begins...

by the time the earth has recovered from the destruction and is ready for a new round of explotiation

	29-04-2003 05:55									#5
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the new civilization begins in an isolated island off the coast of A___.

these aliens keep the humans in pens that were designed to be like the "traditional human environments", and would be a tourist attraction.

however, one night, a disgruntled programmer shuts down the electric fences and a typhoon rolls over the islands... resulting in the breakout of the humans.

upon learning of their freedom, however, the humans go into an apoplectic fit and die of strokes.

	29-04-2003 06:01									#6
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however in the meantime humans have developed some sort of viral disease that attacks the brain cells which started the alien plague, within next century all intelligent life in the universe died out.

10^20 years passed universe collapsed in itself and big bang happened again

	29-04-2003 06:01									#7
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hmm . . im glad im not going to u chicago.

	29-04-2003 06:06									#8
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@lawrence

don't let me be your reason...

	29-04-2003 07:51									#9
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quote: unless something supernatural happens and shortens the learning curve.

That's my vote.

	29-04-2003 08:02									#10
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Yep, I'm with Obi Wan. Mankind will undergo rapid spiritual and social evolution that will lead it toward socialism within 10-20 years.

	29-04-2003 08:05									#11
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Too bad that's the end of the story.

	29-04-2003 08:12									#12
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To answer Sava's question more directly. By the time we hit socialism, government as we know it will begin to fade away. The government of the future will be nearly non-existant. In many ways, our way of life will begin to resemble that of the Native Americans we vanquished from the continent much more than the hectic, modern world we know today. It will be wonderful, I just pray that I live to see it.

	29-04-2003 11:25									#13
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10-20 years?

Come on, now, you could have been more realistic .

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A government in the future (I'm simply going to try to predict 50 years into the future, because anymore would be too much) will definetly integrate technology. Technology will change government, but not to super sci-fi equivalents. You will have representatives in great contact with their populace, almost every day. People will be greatly interconnected by the internet and television, knowing news around the world instantly. Voting would by internet, and results processed instantanously. Because of this interconnectivity you would have more refendum initiatives.

	29-04-2003 12:16									#14
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I see a more dystopic future of the world and it's governments. I see a rise in fundamentalism and a repeat of religion playing a large role in future governments. This will lead to clashes with other governments with a different religion and may lead to war. Terrorist fueled violence will spread while those states who fight against it will strain under the pressure.

I'm hoping that when I graduate, I'll be able to fight terrorism and kick major terrorist booty.

	29-04-2003 12:19									#15
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same. I'm under the impression that goverment really hasn't improved much over 200 some odd years (when the best goverment was created).

I disagree that there will be a rise in fundamentalism. Eventually 99% of the population will be athiest with only a few nutcases running around.

And I also disagree we can govern ourselves. Human nature does not allow this. It is an impossibility unless things like mind control and severe genetic modifications are invented.

	29-04-2003 12:38									#16
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i agree w/Diss. Sure, ppl would like to think we'd be able to govern ourselves...but I'm not that optimistic. You're going to have a couple of whacko's around who are going to want more than their share of the pie.

Sure, 99 percent will be athiest or athiest-like, but that 1% is what's troubling me. All you need is 1 person out of 100 to do some harm.

	29-04-2003 13:01									#17
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I've been reading a lot of history sites lately. And I am impressed by how little things change in goverment and politics over thousands of years. It is foolish to believe in some utopia.

Technology can make things interesting, but I doubt it will make things significantly better. Unless we find out a way to change human nature, things will remain the same.

	29-04-2003 14:11									#18
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I forsee a global collapse in 50-100 years, (let's call it the Chasm ). several nukes will be used in the following wars, but will not lead to a complete nuclear exchange. as society will descend into chaos. This will be followed by rebirth of various societies on different, opposing principles, while the advancement of computer technology in the years before the collapse will allow the planned economies to overtake the free market ones, with a couple of exceptions, but those exceptions will be very strong political entities. At least two religious movements will survive the "Chasm". Still, the two superpowers will be technocratic in nature, variants of socialism, and fascism. In about 200-300 years, the first viable off-world colony will be formed, on either the moon or Mars. WWIV will errupt 15 years later. nuclear holocaust on earth, colony will become independent, but will near death, and will barely survive. 200 years later, earthly life will reappear. Suprisingly enough, earth will rebuild in a very fast matter, due to the existance of fusion power, developed back in the after Chasm, pre WWIV age.

Humanity will finally unite some 750-800 years from now, and will colonize the entire solar system. With each planet having a single government, but barriers of interplanetary communication will lead to each planet being independent.

in another 250 years, humanity will establish the first colony outside the solar system.

---The end of times---

later, generally speaking, humanity will spur into different species, as genetic pools will be separated by the vastness of space. But, there will be wars, periods of peace etc. The rest depends on the existance of Aliens, other universes, and other things that are currently unknown. And I don't like speculating ( ), so I'll just leave it here.

	29-04-2003 14:17									#19
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azazel, are you in fact one of Ned's or Jimmytrick's DLs?

	29-04-2003 14:18									#20
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You got me, Tiger.

	29-04-2003 14:40									#21
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The creation of wealth in general leads to the resources to create a better government. Futhersome technology, this beloved residual in development, will make the use of those resources even more effective. There's however crucial parts of a government that's hard to improve beyond a point with resources and technology. Democracy takes time. Hopefully people will in the future start to cut down futher on their work hours and spend the time as members of a society not just consumtion. fat chance that'll happen.

	29-04-2003 17:07									#22
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quote: Hopefully people will in the future start to cut down futher on their work hours and spend the time as members of a society not just consumtion

since, amazingly enough, we are one of the most idle societies ever, I don't see how this can contribute or change anything. We need to have better organized past times.

	29-04-2003 17:35									#23
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Interesting posts.

	29-04-2003 22:28									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui 10-20 years? Come on, now, you could have been more realistic .

Yep, global socialism in 10-20. Actually it could be just a hair less than that, like 8-9 even. I'm sure you think that it's utterly absurd now, and I don't blame you, but just wait a few years.

Actually some of the seeds will be planted this year even. There will be a pretty bad economic collapse around mid-October.

	29-04-2003 22:30									#25
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Sorry monky, I love you, agree with you a lot; but you are daft if you think that will happen

	29-04-2003 22:33									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel since, amazingly enough, we are one of the most idle societies ever, I don't see how this can contribute or change anything. We need to have better organized past times.

Well, I wouldn't really say people are that idle on average. Consumption takes a lot of time. A change of priorites in a society is needed but I can't see that happening.

	29-04-2003 22:34									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Sorry monky, I love you, agree with you a lot; but you are daft if you think that will happen

I don't blame you of course, but you may be pleasently surprised, old friend.

	29-04-2003 22:36									#28
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Oh I would be quite happy. America's best chance for a social revolution was in the 60's. American Capitalism is very good at keeping people just happy enough so they don't rock the boat. I don't see how things could change in such a short time.

	29-04-2003 22:41									#29
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Governments in the future?

As religions fail, Democracy spreads like wildfire until all countries are united under one gonvernment, with one president...

States are broken down to allow for better local representation to congress, and supreme courts are more prolific and localized by selected belief systems. Meaning that you adhere, or subscribe, to a specific judicial system, and are tried by this system as well as common or general law...

The multi tiered system of government works well for many generations until a ballot couting error occurs in Florida. Mass rioting leads to global warfare with sides being deemed by judicial courts... Then, in our weakest hour, as mushroom clouds dot every sky line... the aliens show up and share the secret of planetary rule... Common Religious Ground... the suggest that the whole of Earth form a government ruled by religion and that all should worship.... The Great Banana!