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"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:27
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*Groan* Man, this downward spiral is starting to pick up some more steam... 
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...id=540&ncid=716
U.S. Troops Fire on Iraq Protesters Again
21 minutes ago
By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent
FALLUJAH, Iraq - U.S. troops opened fire on anti-American demonstrators for the second time this week as Iraqis marched Wednesday to protest the previous shooting. At least two Iraqis were seen to be wounded.
The gunfire came less than 48 hours after a shooting during a demonstration Monday night that hospital officials said killed 13 Iraqis.
There was no immediate indication of any American casualties.
About 1,000 residents were marching down Fallujah's main street and stopped in front of a battalion headquarters of the U.S. Army's 82nd Airborne Division. They were carrying signs condemning Monday night's shooting.
When some protesters started throwing rocks and shoes at the U.S.-held compound — a former office of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s ruling Baath Party — troops inside suddenly opened fire at about 10:30 a.m., according to Associated Press reporters on the scene.
The demonstrators scattered, leaving two of their number fallen. Others came back and picked up the wounded and carried them off.
U.S. Capt. Jeff Wilbur, 25, of Annapolis, Md., a civil affairs officer for the 1st Battalion's 325 Airborne regimen, said the United States was investigating whether protesters had fired on troops. He said it was not clear whether any Americans were hurt in Wednesday's incident.
Iraqi city officials who witnessed the gunfire said they saw or heard no shooting from among the protesters.
U.S. Apache attack helicopters circled the site throughout the march and the aftermath, but did not open fire.
"Why? The demonstrators didn't use guns, so why should the soldiers start attacking them?" asked the imam of the Grand Fallujah Mosque, Jamal Shaqir Mahmood.
He said the Americans should pull out of Fallujah — or at least cut back their forces.
"There is no (Iraqi) military presence here. Why is there an American military presence? We just want a reduction in the numbers," he said.
The incident, coupled with the deaths Monday outside a school in Fallujah, a conservative Sunni Muslim city and Baath Party stronghold 30 miles west of the capital, are increasing tension as American troops try to keep the peace in Iraq (news - web sites).
In the Monday night clash, U.S. Central Command said paratroopers of the 82nd Airborne were fired on by about 25 armed civilians mixed within an estimated crowd of 200 protesters outside a compound where the troops were staying.
Demonstrators said no gunfire came from their side during the Monday night incident.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:27
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I wonder if Powell is going to condemn that...
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Proteus_MST
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Maybe someone of the Shoe-throwing Protestors had smelly feet and the US-Soldiers saw it as some kind of Gas-attack 
Last edited by Proteus_MST on 30-04-2003 at 14:14
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:27
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People who blames this terrible tragedy on the brave US soldiers who are putting their lives on the line for our freedoms are just a bunch of arrogant anti-american whiners who do know nothing.
The Iraqis obviously started the fight by shooting first and the American investigation will prove this because American soldiers would never shoot at a unarmed civilians.
Enough with the attacks on US soldiers. Now is not the time to criticise their valiant efforts to liberate Iraq.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
time: 13:27
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quote:
Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Interesting, considering the war has not yet been declared officially over.
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For the media, particularly television, the war is over when the bombs stop falling on a predictable basis. No explosions = no war.
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Funny, I thought in journalism reporting news was the frontline and everything else was just the background din.
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nah, nowadays "analysis" and added-value content is what is important. In other words, we'll just comment on what we think is happening. Much cheaper to interview talking heads from Washington then sending reporters into the fields.
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Of course then again, in recent months/years TV newscasters have found it increasingly appropriate to interject their OWN interpretations and opinions into reporting the news...
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What's different is not injecting their own interpretation. That's just the nature of the beast. When a reporter or editor decides to cover story A, but not story B then they are injecting their own interpretation into events. But that is unavoidable.
What's different now, compared to say 20 years ago, is the greater reliance on so-called neutral experts who interpret the news.
This is not always a bad thing. The "why" is often as important as the "what". People want to know how an event will affect their lives tomorrow.
The problem is the media increasingly relies on talking heads because it is cheaper. Saving money is the name of the game these days.
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Unedited camera footage makes for far better eye-witness accounts than soldiers and civilians.
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No it doesn't. Camera footage is just one tiny perception of a big event. Video images can make a largely peaceful protest look like a massive riot by focusing on a few violent people. Or it could make a small protest look huge.
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