02-05-2003 06:10									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Teddy Roosevelt busted up the Capitalist Trusts. He also started many Socialist style social welfare policies that his distant cousin continued. I'm surprised you like him Fez.

Based on how shitty things were at the time I would of easily associated with him. You could easily call me a 19th century liberal or even progressive. Because that is what I am. But the meanings of the word have changed.

	02-05-2003 06:11									#122
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I would like to apologize for that outburst back there. It is unlike me to be drawn into other poster's negativity. It just utterly infuriated me that some people seem to have absolutely zero respect for anybody or anything. It usually takes quite a bit to get me angry on this message board, as long-time vets can probably attest.

I still have a long way to go, even though I sometimes like to think I have conquered petty things such as anger, events such as this show me that I still have work to do. May Day (next only to Christmas) should be a day to remind all of us that learning to "turn the other cheek" and to "return evil with good" is the only way to humanity to advance. I am reminded of a poem by Mother Thersa that is perfect for today.

People are often unreasonable, illogical and self-centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you've got anyway.
You see in the final analysis. it is between you and God;
It was never between you and them anyway.


I am sorry for losing my temper, and don't worry, I'm not going to spam the 4th of July thread.

	02-05-2003 06:14									#123
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Monkspider: I must apologize for calling your heroes windbags. That was uncalled for and completely disrespectful to you.

	02-05-2003 06:18									#124
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Ahhhh.....

kiss and make up

	02-05-2003 06:19									#125
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Fez: Admite it... Ming put you up to that didn't he?

	02-05-2003 06:21									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp Hands up everyone who opened this thread thinking that Che was sinking.

Yeah, I thought he was asking for money again, which would be ironic since I'm in danger of loosing my job now.

	02-05-2003 06:22									#127
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You were fine Fezzie Wezzie, to be honest it was other posters that really set me off.

	02-05-2003 06:24									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Ahhhh..... kiss and make up

I might get carried away.. Kiss? Not french, I mean freedom kiss? Kidding.

Oerdin, nobody put me up to it.

	02-05-2003 06:26									#129
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Happy May Day everyone!

Let's celebrate this day in the proper fashion by kicking back and celebrating the complete and utter failure of communism in the 20th century. We should all be thankful that this flawed ideology has been completely discredited and future generations will be free from authoritarianism garbed in the guise of "equality". Communism may have been the cause of untold horrors in the last century, but it is dead now. While we should always remember the victims of this evil idea, we should also celebrate the victory of freedom.

	02-05-2003 06:32									#130
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Drake- One day you will understand. You may mock us now, you may spit upon us, you may think us fools, but soon, certainly within this lifetime (unless you leave us early), you will be a "comrade" as well. Don't worry, I once thought as you did. You will always be welcome.

	02-05-2003 06:34									#131
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I'm not mocking you, monkspider. Just letting you know that communism is dead and that the world is better off because of it.

	02-05-2003 06:38									#132
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Well Drake, we must naturally ask what is communism? Marx may tell you differently, but all communism really is a desire to live for the betterment of humanity. That is something that will never die, and can never die. In fact, it is ingrained in all of us, soon humanity will begin to wake up to the divine side of it's nature and this dormant concept of "communism" will awaken. But hey, don't take my word for it, just wait and see.

	02-05-2003 06:44									#133
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Monky, please don't tell what people will be or not. That is extremely condescending. Communism is wrong. I will join a paramilitary organization to prevent it, if it hurts my future.

	02-05-2003 06:48									#134
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Well Drake, we must naturally ask what is communism? Marx may tell you differently, but all communism really is a desire to live for the betterment of humanity. That is something that will never die, and can never die. In fact, it is ingrained in all of us, soon humanity will begin to wake up to the divine side of it's nature and this dormant concept of "communism" will awaken. But hey, don't take my word for it, just wait and see.

Of course there will always be the dumb-@$$es who have been out of work for a year, are about to have their houses foreclosed on, and see no jobs in the future (except at Mickey-D's Steakhouse) who still love King George W. And will probably vote for him again either because (a) "he's a good guy" or (b) "he's born again".

	02-05-2003 06:50									#135
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Fez- :shrug: You do seem to be very strongly against us. I sometimes wonder how someone like you or Floyd could become become a commie. But I know nothing is impossible. I am not sure how, but you will eventually become a commie, if you survive the next few years anyway.

	02-05-2003 06:51									#136
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I will pick up a rifle, and drive a tank through the streets if it be necessary. Then proceed to put down your illegal rebellion.

That is what I would do if you even came close to threatening my future.

	02-05-2003 06:52									#137
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Fez- You won't have to worry about any sort of rebellion, at least not in the sense that you are probably thinking of.

	02-05-2003 06:53									#138
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider Fez- :shrug: You do seem to be very strongly against us. I sometimes wonder how someone like you or Floyd could become become a commie. But I know nothing is impossible. I am not sure how, but you will eventually become a commie, if you survive the next few years anyway.

Don't you ****ing dare say that! I will put your movement down, where it stands. I will form a counter movement called "The Freedom Auto Defense of the Free World"..

	02-05-2003 06:56									#139
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Fez- Sorry, but the revolution (or evolution to be more precise) that brings about global communism isn't really one that can be stopped. I'm sure you disagree, but I can't help that.

	02-05-2003 06:59									#140
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Sorry. You cannot defeat capitalism. You will fall in your shoes. You will be like Che Guevara. Spiked by the Bolivian Armed Forces.

	02-05-2003 07:01									#141
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The Eastern Europeans sure choice Communist revolution when allowed a free choice... No, wait a second they dumped the first chance they got.
Even the Chinese have gotten ride of that banckrupt systemin all but name; now all that is left is a repressive one party state which is banking on capitalism to save it from extinction.

	02-05-2003 07:10									#142
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Fez- I can't huh? Well, what can I say, I like challenges. Here's my promise to you, capitalism will cease to exist as an institution forever within 10-20 years. I bet you think I'm nuts huh? Well, just wait and see.

And moreover, capitalism will have a big collapse around mid to late October of this year. It won't be a final collapse by any means, in fact, I don't think it will even be a Great-Depression level collapse, but it will pave the way for the bigger stuff later.

I know you don't like communism, so let's call it something else, let's call it, Philanthropy. People will awaken to their divine nature (yes, even you have a divine side to your nature) and learn to accept a new philosophy of philanthropy which is simply to live for the betterment of all.

Don't worry Fez, it won't be so bad.

	02-05-2003 07:13									#143
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I will form a 4 billion strong organization and you will not be abled to wipe it out. You will get defeated. You will be surrounded by 100,000 troops alone.

Capitalism will never collapse because communism is dead. Capitalism will live!

Viva Capitalism!

Down with the criminals, crooks and communists!

And your divine crap, will be illegalized in my state. You will not have a voice.

	02-05-2003 07:16									#144
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Well, maybe so. Let's just see how things pan out.

	02-05-2003 07:18									#145
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You better live your life on.. my post was just meant as irony. But if I am forced to run a global military dictatorship, I would not hestitate. I will let democratic capitalism takes it way, to wipe your beliefs out for good. I predict this in several years, as the DPRK and PRC collapse.

	02-05-2003 07:19									#146
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You're very entertaining Fez.

	02-05-2003 07:20									#147
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And so is monkspider... we are living in a dream world if either of us actually think those things we posted. I think Monkspider can have his revolution in Zimbabwe but that is all.

	02-05-2003 07:21									#148
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Thanks Fez.

	02-05-2003 07:23									#149
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LOL... if you french kiss me maybe I will reconsider my political beliefs.. monky.. kidding yah...

Anyways.. didn't a revolution like what you have been saying occur in Cuba in 1959? See where that went? I am sure Fidel would love you in his government.

	02-05-2003 07:26									#150
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First of all happy mayday

FEZ: I don't know you as i arrived when you had already left but i read some of your posts and I realised what kind of person you are and why everybody here loathes you.
Do you know something about your country??
first of all.... Argentina DOESN'T Have labour laws that make impossible fire workers, in fact, it's the opposite thing: One of the reasons of this crisis are the ''free market'' policies implemented by the Ex-president Menem; He privatized all the state companies and now these companies do whatever they want: they fire workers without reason, buy companies just to transfer them all debts of their other companies, don't do what was told them in the privatization contract, etc.
The same Neo Liberalism you are defending is what brouth us here.
I believe in capitalism as long as the state controls big companies so that they don't commit abusses like the ones are happening here.

A pleasure to meet you .
-South Killer

PD: I noticed (to my dissapointment) that you (according to your profile) actually LIVE here in Argentina. Are you argentinian (i hope not) or Spanish???

Last edited by South killer on 02-05-2003 at 07:35