03-05-2003 14:48									#1
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After watching another Anabolic video ive decided that porn is inherently unhealthy for a persons sexuality. Im not talking about your dads playboy...or some cleaned up cinemax video.

Im talking about hardcore gonzo porn. Ive seen things you people wouldnt believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near Tannhäuser Gate, in the name of porn.

First off this latest video i was watching was based on a bet lost by this one guy, so all his buddies get to have a go with his girlfriend. at the same time.

But can you guess what this was over? Bowling. BOWLING! BOOOOOOOOOOOOWLING! So right off the bat we are taught that A. women are not only sexual objects B. they are sexual objects to be shared by as many men as possible at one time. Second we learn that bowling alleys go hand in hand with gangbangs.

Thinking about it though, if all youre going to do is destroy a womans body like that, why have the pretext of a story. An impossible story. Are you really trying to cater to the "i love a bowling alley bet group sex" market? Or how about the "i want my friends to ming my girlfriend" market?

The next thing that strikes me as awful, awful funny is the fact that these guys all have bowling shirts that have the porn company name on it. So not only are they in this alter universe of fantasy, they somehow got into fantasy land with their corporate image. Remember that because it will be even more ridiculous in relation to the story.

Ok, so now we are at the point where they all start getting disrobed and start engaging in sexual activity involving the mouth. The woman seems gleeful at the amount of partners she can satisfy. The message sent here is that women if given the opportunity to rah all your buddies, she would, and love it! And aparently women also enjoy ejaculator fluid from perfect strangers. Remind me to hang myself out of a window of a moving car next time i want to squeeze one off. Im sure all the sexy ladies will come running out like fat kids to an ice cream truck.

Then it progresses to DP. DP if you didnt know is when 2 farmers herd the cattle into 2 different pastures in the southern hemisphere. Now, this isnt a pleasent thing i imagine, but she loves it! who would have guessed that what aliens have been doin for years, but two fold, is enjoyable? (also, what boggles my mind is the fact the fence seperating the pastures isnt completely destroyed by the cattle stampeding)

Well it revolves around this for a while with the men changing, positions changing, levels terrorism alerts changing. The problem is that none of this is vaguely erotic because it just seems ridiculously painful for the girl, and emberassing for the guys.

So basicly it comes for the big release from the guys and lets just say that the sock was in human form. Now the only problem with this scene is the fact that there is not one woman i know that actually enjoys this type of stuff. But aparently women crave it like castro craves long ass speeches and cuban exiles crave little boys.

So now that its all over the girl says "we should do this again..." now get ready for the shocker. Aparently all of them are getting drafted to vietnam. All of them. My question is why did they use a time machine to travel back in time, to bowl, bet, bang, and promote a company that doesnt exsist. Oh, and by the way, while they ventured away from the time machine to bowl they somehow got drafted. Fantastical!

But lets flash forward for second. these guys are all at it again except with a vietnamese girl and this time its a dingy hotel in saigon, involving a game of darts. nevermind most of them have some sort of disease by now, like the clap, or even maybe AIDS in some time paradoxical STD bonanza.

So lets review.

Women are sex objects
Women like being sex objects
Women want to be sexual objects to as many men as possible
Women like DNA laden fluids
Bowling can justify anything
Betting your girlfriends sex is actually a good for everyone involved
Bowling alleys are rife with sexual depravity
100% of perverts got drafted, drug addicts just served in the air national gaurd in texas for 4 years.
You dont need protection when engaging in highly risky sexual behavior.

Thats not to say we cant fight these messages. Its just that by the time someone reaches their 20s in this day and age they will have seen this hundreds of times. (As i was writing this i watched the video for the 3rd time in the past 2 hours.) Obviously things like this will adversely effect the sexual development of youngins and they will expect many of the aformentioned things to happen. They will have unrealistic ideas about sex and god forbid progress to hentai, the 8th level of sexual depravity(right about furries).

Fight the power!

	03-05-2003 15:02									#2
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And another thing...who the **** writes music for porn nowadays. where is the funky slap bass? all they have now is instrumental tracks that want to be "smooth operator" by Sade. or they have some annoying euro trance. If i ever meet a person who "writes" "music" for "movies" like "the" one "above" i want to punch them in the face.

	03-05-2003 15:19									#3
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So you watched it three times in two hours, then decided it was bad. Was your decision influenced by a nasty attack of tennis elbow?

	03-05-2003 15:22									#4
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Ive worked my tendons into such an amazing state that if you were to use them as a slingshot you could send tychonauts to the moon.

	03-05-2003 15:22									#5
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Lazarus:

Imagine what happens when a guy who grew up watching this sh1t meets a girl who grew up watching romantic Richard Gere movies

	03-05-2003 15:25									#6
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I've always wondered about for exactly whom the kind of porn that involves looking at a close shot of what's mainly flopping sweaty guy balls in front of nondescript probably-female buttocks is meant for. The kind of heterosexual men who just happen to dig flopping sweaty guy balls?

	03-05-2003 15:33									#7
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I think I have this movie.

	03-05-2003 15:33									#8
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Eli, you have got to be kidding me!

	03-05-2003 15:57									#9
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Anabolic makes some of the raunchiest porn in the US, and I consistently find them more tasteful and thought-provoking than the work of people like Max Hardcore

	03-05-2003 16:04									#10
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dont get me started on Max Hardcore

	03-05-2003 16:52									#11
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"visiting ANOTHER high-school today".

That's just wrong.

	03-05-2003 17:22									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Stefu I've always wondered about for exactly whom the kind of porn that involves looking at a close shot of what's mainly flopping sweaty guy balls in front of nondescript probably-female buttocks is meant for. The kind of heterosexual men who just happen to dig flopping sweaty guy balls?

I thought they were ment for gays...

	03-05-2003 17:31									#13
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Gay porn usually doesn't involve women.

It's also far more egalitarian. In gay porn, everyone on screen in a sex object.

	03-05-2003 17:39									#14
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Gotta start Bowling.

	03-05-2003 18:30									#15
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Yuck.

I don't know. To me that just seems like an unattractive porn movie.

I really really am not into gang rapes and that movie would seem ugly to me.

I agree that these kinds of movies can really screw up young people, which is why porn really should be disallowed for young people.

However, naked women isn't porn, but erotic pics. They can be allowed IMO to anyone above 12 y/o to see.

And what's the deal americans have with not showing breasts? Todlers get to see breasts all day, and not even on TV!!! If you don't make it to be such a large issue, maybe, just maybe, people will stop making such a huge sexual object out of it.

	03-05-2003 18:33									#16
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Porn is boring apart from anything else.

The sexiest scenes I've ever seen everyone kept their clothes on.

	03-05-2003 18:42									#17
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What's the problem with sexual objects? why does everyone try to minimize their numbers?

	03-05-2003 19:01									#18
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Azazel - I agree completely that being a sexual object or seeing people as such is no problem. in fact it's funky

But you can't see people as such all the time, as it might interefere with you seeing them as other human beings too.

Or if you're talking about the quanitity of sexual objects in a movie - I think that gang raping is not healthy But if there are about equal quantities of men and women (or for gay people - doms and subs [i'm not sure how they're called. i used bdsm slang]) i think there's no problem.

	03-05-2003 19:08									#19
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It's not "raping". There was no forceful coersion.

	03-05-2003 19:09									#20
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Porn's only for those who aren't virile enough to masturbate without watching obscene, disgusting pictures.

If you think it's in these days generally bad for humans and completely nauseous, then you're not alone.

	03-05-2003 19:27									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Porn is boring apart from anything else. The sexiest scenes I've ever seen everyone kept their clothes on.

I've long suspected that unless the shot is a loving close-up of a pair of women's shoes "Horse Jr" wouldn't get up to play.

	03-05-2003 19:33									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Tuomerehu Porn's only for those who aren't virile enough to masturbate without watching obscene, disgusting pictures. If you think it's in these days generally bad for humans and completely nauseous, then you're not alone.

The wonderful Charlie Brooker once wrote a magnificent sketch called "Daily Mail Island". It was a derivative of Big Brother/Castaway, in which a community was abandoned on an island, with their only source of information on the world being the Daily Mail.

Anyway, Tuo-wotsit's moral blast above brought a quote from "Daily Mail Island" to mind. It was a vox pop with an islander where he declared "I'm proud to say that I've never made my wife come".

	03-05-2003 19:43									#24
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anabolic Was nacho or rocco in it?

	03-05-2003 19:43									#25
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People, how do you define the difference betw. porn and erotics?

I see, that most of posters in this thread are from Israel. Is it bad sign?

Siro, are you sure, that you are male?

	03-05-2003 19:49									#26
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Plus it's not DP.. it's DAP.I've even heard some talks about someone trying TAP. Now that's just crazy. I don't find these certain producers flicks very good, they're like sports videos. It has nothing to do with sex.. it's too nasty to be porn. So.. it's sports, how much can you take, how far can they go, is that even possible for humans, doesn't that hurt your organs kind of stuff.
And no, I don't enjoy those films. Really.

	03-05-2003 19:51									#27
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muxec, well it's not just erotic and porn. There is erotic films, usually with a plot and romantic stuff, not showing everything. Then there is porn, where plot is not very important and they show everything. Then there is stuff like from anabolic, that is what I like to call Nasty Sports.
It's a bit.. hmm... it seems like it's a bit..'wrong'

	03-05-2003 20:12									#28
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OK, i'll try to be more certain. Is showing everything with no partner porno?

	03-05-2003 20:20									#29
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Maybe it's due to my sexuality, but yeah, I always viewed heterosexual porn as being so ludicrously mysoginist that it's offensive. The dynamic between the sexes in them is just so demeaning to women it's unbelievable. (This is based, however, on limited exposure to the genre).

That's why gay porn is so great. No sexism involved--a much more equal dymanic. Sure, there's power play between the top and bottom (although a lot of gay porn tends to have "versatile" characters), but nobody is being degraded because of their gender.

That, and it's so hot, unnghh unngh unngghhhhh

	03-05-2003 20:20									#30
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I also think that porn has problems (especially that type)

I try to find stuff that is more sexy

I am not willing to pay for it, however, and what is online is more of the less sexy stuff (The gang bangs and what have you)

I have occasionally been at freinds houses who had cinemax of whatever and there was good stuff there (there is also some pretty fewaky stuff, (especially in the ?sex arround the world? on HBO?))

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