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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Food Fight
When the Food Workers Union stages an impromptu walkout at the U.N., the diplomats start looting for lunch and booze
By STEWART STOGEL/U.N.

Saturday, May. 03, 2003
Hunger pains can apparently turn even the most upstanding diplomat into a looter. At noon on Friday, food workers at the U.N. headquarters walked off their jobs, calling a wildcat strike. The result: none of the U.N.'s five restaurants and bars was staffed. The walkout left thousands of U.N. employees scrounging for lunch — eventually, the masses stripped the cafeterias of everything, including the silverware.

The food workers staged a one-day show of muscle after they learned that they would not be reimbursed for vacation pay due to a contract shift that took place in March. For the past 17 years the U.N. has been under contract to Restaurant Associates Inc. (RA). In March, RA lost the contract to Aramark Corporation, the largest U.S. food services company. According to Aramark executives who spoke to TIME, RA informed the food workers on Friday morning that it would only cover vacation pay that was issued before May 2nd, the last day of RA's U.N. contract. Any vacation pay due after May 2nd would need to be paid by Aramark.

But Aramark informed the Union it would only pay for time worked for their company and nothing previous with RA. Aramark told the union that whether or not vacation paychecks were to be issued before or after May 2nd the work in question was performed when RA held the U.N. contract.

That was enough to set the food workers walking during the height of Friday's lunch hour. After that, what ensued was nothing short of Baghdad style chaos.

Kofi Annan, who had a private lunch previously scheduled with the members of the Security Council in the Delegates Dining Room, found they were only served the main course. After that, they were on their own — no desserts, no cleanup, no coffee for Kofi. And the service was no better for anyone else at the U.N. But as tensions grew and stomachs growled, a high-ranking U.N. official boldly ordered that all the cafeterias open their doors for business even without staff. The restaurants had been locked shut by security until about 1:00 pm when the doors flung open.

The decision to make the cafeterias into "no pay zones" spread through the 40-acre complex like wildfire. Soon, the hungry patrons came running. "It was chaos, wild, something out of a war scene," said one Aramark executive who was present. "They took everything, even the silverware," she said. Another witness from U.N. security said the cafeteria was "stripped bare." And another told TIME that the cafeteria raid was "unbelievable, crowds of people just taking everything in sight; they stripped the place bare." And yet another astonished witness said that "chickens, turkeys, souffles, casseroles all went out the door (unpaid)."

The mob then moved on to the Viennese Café, a popular snack bar in the U.N.'s conference room facility. It was also stripped bare. The takers included some well-known diplomats who finished off the raid with free drinks at the lounge for delegates. When asked how much liquor was lifted from the U.N. bar, one U.S. diplomat responded: "I stopped counting the bottles." He then excused himself and headed towards the men's room.

An Aramark executive estimated the food "removed" from the U.N.'s main cafeteria at between $7,000 and $9,000 not including the staff restaurant, the Viennese Café or the Delegate's Bar. The value of the missing silverware has yet to be estimated.

Come Monday, the workers should be back at their stations. The dispute has been temporarily resolved with the Union agreeing that the vacation pay remains RA's responsibility. The Union also wasn't willing to risk Aramark's only option of replacing all the workers.

"I hope we have large crowds rushing to come to lunch on Monday," an Aramark executive said. "But this time we expect them to pay for what they take."



http://www.time.com/time/world/arti...,449436,00.html

Somehow...this just dosen't surprise me, one bit.

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This had me imagining a post-nuclear war world where U.N. diplomats form a raider gang to survive.

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Diplomacy is pretty much a free lunch most of the time. Its normal.

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They're lowlifes. More and more, i wonder why we bother with that charade. Let them have their silly farce run out of Geneva.

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The UN... ugh.... is just a corrupt mafia organization.

I can't understand how people actually like them..... and look at Kofi Annan's salary... and some commies actually want to put the UN in charge of Iraq.

The story doesn't surprise me at all.

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The UN saves you so much money.

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The UN saves you so much money.
I'd much rather have the UN paying for the Iraq "occupation" and having them be responsible for anything that goes wrong. But Fez isn't American, so I'm not surprised he wants us to do the work.

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Sava... you use the word "us".. it is obvious you don't support the US so why use that word?

The UN sucks and will only fleece Iraq.

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Sava... you use the word "us".. it is obvious you don't support the US so why use that word?


Because he's American?

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They're lowlifes. More and more, i wonder why we bother with that charade. Let them have their silly farce run out of Geneva.


Those lowlifes include US and UK diplomats, and other US friends such as Pakistan, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

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Those lowlifes include US and UK diplomats, and other US friends such as Pakistan, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.


It's a big porkbarrel affair. If there were Americans involved, that doesn't change the conduct.

Oh...and I'm pretty sick of the diplomats flouting traffic laws and not paying tickets. Great way to represent their countries.

**** 'em. Send it to Geneva. The Euros always are more into process than substance anyway. They can have fun with it there. Of course, no one will take it seriously once the big kahuna takes his ball home. Tough. Life goes on.

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Because he's American?


Is he worthy of being such?

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Is he worthy of being such?


he pays taxes doesn't he? So I don't see why he can't b!tch about it.

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I can't understand how people actually like them..... and look at Kofi Annan's salary... and some commies actually want to put the UN in charge of Iraq.


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Sava... you use the word "us".. it is obvious you don't support the US so why use that word?


Such a sad, obsolete attitude.

We vs them. They are always bad, smelly, evil, and ugly-looking. You are not one of us, because we demand blind obedience. Go join them. We are good, they are evil. We represent freedom. They fund terrorists.

This is the sort of unthinking, knuckleheaded position that leads to bloodshed and war. It masks the differences between individuals and demonise the entire opposition with one broad stroke.

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UR, shut up. I never implied any of that at all! YOU WANT A CORRUPT MAFIA ORGANIZATION LIKE THE UN RUNNING A COUNTRY? What I say to that is this: You are the one with a sad, obsolete, and inherently uninformed attitude.

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UR, shut up.


now who's stifiling free speech?

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I don't call slandering somebody free speech.

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Quit picking on Fez, Sava is the one who began the attacks.

I hate the UN too, and to have those idiots running anything would be detremental to the all. Heck, look what the UN has gotten us to thus far.

If the UN were to run a country I am sure it would end up like their meetings; treat everyone like crap so they go out on strike, whine when they do, and then riot because you are so rich, fat, and lazy that you just don't know waht out to do... Imagine what kind of riots we would see in Iraq if the UN were in control... Really, Sava, if the UN got involved it really would be the US doing anything anyway... So, best to leave the UN's inefficiency out of that which already exists.

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Kofi Annan gets paid more than the US President. Nobody in the UN bureaucracy of corruption gets paid less than $100,000 annually.

Is this really the organization you want running a country?

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Fez: That's the average salary of the 3,600 UN-workers in New York City. As you might, or might not, know quite often around half has a salary below the average.

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If you are talking about the 3,600 UN workers in New York City, that is the perfect reason why the UN should not get involved. Average globally or not, it is still quite depressing. But who you should look at is Kofi Annan. If I remember correctly the US President's salary is $250,000. Kofi Annan's is perhaps triple or quadruple that.

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Kofi Annan gets paid more than the US President. Nobody in the UN bureaucracy of corruption gets paid less than $100,000 annually.

Is this really the organization you want running a country?


1. That's patently false. The UN Sec Gen makes $227,253/year. Bush gets paid $400,000 (source: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/un/life/job.html). Also, you can check this link (http://www.un.org/Depts/OHRM/salari...salaries/gs.htm) to see what salaries are at the UN. Obviously, most people in the UN make less than $100,000 per year.

2. Fez, you favor corporatism and want corporations to run the state. Any clue as to how much most CEOs, CFOs, VPs, etc. make?

I'm not saying the UN is an efficient organization by any means, but if you're going to put forth an arguement, at least some part of it should be correct.

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A couple of years ago it was 50% more than (then) president Clinton. The issue is not (for me) if they are overpayed or not. The issue is that you invent or exaggerate facts to make a point.

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Well I do concede on the area of salaries. But the UN is not an efficient organization and should not be placed in charge of any country.

I don't invent or exaggerate anything. I just read things from some sources that may be mistaken.

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no coffee for Kofi.




That line made my day...

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Sure Fez, sure. Lets say that.

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I don't invent or exaggerate anything. I just read things from some sources that may be mistaken.




That's one of the funniest things I've read in a while!

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Hey Kontiki, your stupid misquotes of me in your signature should be removed. They really aren't relevant to each other.

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Fez: Because I don't support some corrupt politician's agenda, I'm not worthy to be an American? Sorry Fez, but your ridiculiously stupid statement shows the full extent of how much you don't understand America and what it is like to be an American. You should read the US constitution and brush up on the first amendment. Perhaps watching the goose-stepping Spanish and various South American militaries has racked your brain. I challenge you to ask any freedom-loving American whether or not I should have the right to criticize my government.

Japher: What attacks? Fez isn't American. Fez wants the US do to the work in Iraq, not the UN. Where is the attack? Where did I go wrong? I stated two facts. I can't be held responsible for whatever conclusions you draw from it. You really need to take your foot out of your mouth. The UN shouldn't be running things because they are inept, yet the US does everything in the UN? Maybe you should proofread your posts to avoid further "foot in mouth" syndrome.

 
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