08-05-2003 20:57									#1
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I wonder how Apolyton would look like, if it would have existed in 1933 already. just imagine the posters would be the same, the moderators as well of course. what would have went on on Apolyton? how would we have discussed the coming events like the Nuremberg Law, Reichstag, Gestapo, Guernica, Appeasement, WWII or Holocaust?
would there have been a common agreement that Hitler was evil? would there have been statements by people saying Hitler is necessary because Stalin is the true evil?
what do you think would have been your role here and how do you think would you have argued?

	08-05-2003 21:00									#2
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would be interesting
wonder if a Bandera Apolytonia could have been organized for the Spanish Civil War

	08-05-2003 21:05									#3
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We would have stupid comments like "Don´t post in a Jewish thread"

	08-05-2003 21:07									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko would be interesting wonder if a Bandera Apolytonia could have been organized for the Spanish Civil War

Do you mean to defense the republic? Don't you?

Then this "Bandera Apolytonia" would be wellcome...
in the spanish civilization site

	08-05-2003 21:11									#5
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quote: Do you mean to defense the republic? Don't you?

Of course. Knowing my luck I would have volunteered and been part of the busload of American volunteers who accidentally got driven behind nationalist lines in jarama (and never heard from again) before any of them saw and combat...

	08-05-2003 21:14									#6
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quote: We would have stupid comments like "Don´t post in a Jewish thread"

There's jewish threads!!! Who let them on this site!

	08-05-2003 21:21									#8
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oh no, I wouldn´t want to have missed our Isreali friends here. however, an interesting point would have been, where would they have lived (since there was no Isreal yet) and would they have listened to the warnings of the antifacist posters in the free world. would there have been warnings anyway?

	08-05-2003 21:23									#9
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Continual simmering flamewar between "FDR is our Savior" and "FDR is a God-Damned Bolshevik" camps would naturally be in the fore.

What I'd be most interested in is Finnish forums (some sort of Muropaketti-equivalent) in 1932, the year of Mäntsälä coup attempt.

	08-05-2003 21:24									#10
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oedo: Good question. AFAIK a lot of Jews in Germany didn´t believe Hitler would really try to exterminate them. Many of them fought in WWI for the "Reich", many of them were highly decorated there.

	08-05-2003 21:27									#11
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We'd have hoards of lefties who would be saying the British & French were war mongers. Serb would be busy denying that Stalin was starving anyone in the USSR yet, then as now, he would be un able to explain why he had moved to the US if the USSR was such a wonderful place.

	08-05-2003 21:33									#12
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Intriguing.

We could really try this out by starting a 1933 thread.

	08-05-2003 21:36									#13
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History suks! lets repeat it.

	08-05-2003 21:40									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin We'd have hoards of lefties who would be saying the British & French were war mongers. Serb would be busy denying that Stalin was starving anyone in the USSR yet, then as now, he would be un able to explain why he had moved to the US if the USSR was such a wonderful place.

Nice troll bunghole... FDR wanted to get in the war... it was the Isolationists who didn't are you a writer for the Rush Limbaugh show?

	08-05-2003 21:41									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ranskaldan Intriguing. We could really try this out by starting a 1933 thread.

this wouldn´t work. the most common statement in Germany after May 1945 was Wir haben nichts gewusst!(We didn´t know about it all!)

	08-05-2003 21:42									#16
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Many people didn't know of the German atrocities that were happening and had no idea about what was to come. Hitler was actually getting praise from many about the job he was doing in rebuilding the German economy. My bet would be that he would have had many supporters here on poly circa 1933. Further, I would imagine a large discussion on how capitalism had failed and thrown the world into depression. Communism would appear to be the answer for many during this time. The discussions would have been incredibly interesting and fun to follow.

	08-05-2003 21:44									#17
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quote: Nice troll bunghole

Sava, you have been debating with Fez to much. Please don't adopt his style.

	08-05-2003 21:46									#18
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 Sava, you have been debating with Fez to much. Please don't adopt his style.

bah, just the way I talk, no harm meant... If I were Fez I would have said, "You are a liar and a criminal Oerdin! I'll throw you from a helicopter!"

	08-05-2003 21:51									#20
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If this were 1933 Ming would complain about showing too much knee in the babe threads. Hands over knees wouldn't be allowed either.

	08-05-2003 21:58									#21
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It would have been a nice time for sure. As most of you might know, back then everyting could be blamed on jews. People would start out with a post, verbally attacking the jews for being the creater of the modern capitalist society and exploiting the people. later on, the same poster would in the same fashion attack the jews for creating and leading the communist movement, a threat to society. many people would think this was in perfect order, those that didn't would be called pinko homosexual jew-lovers.

	08-05-2003 22:02									#22
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Btw, in 33 we could still have "which is the best tank" threads, "who´s the next superpower" threads, and nation-bashing threads

	08-05-2003 22:22									#23
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Posting on Apolyton would be highly interesting, given that the only thing approaching computers at the time was the difference analyzer (? something like that). I know that I would look forward to the future when we'll finally have punchcards to post with...

	08-05-2003 22:46									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Nice troll bunghole... FDR wanted to get in the war... it was the Isolationists who didn't are you a writer for the Rush Limbaugh show?

No, but I sometimes aspire...

Admite it. That was quality material.

	08-05-2003 22:50									#25
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haha I never expect any less of you

	09-05-2003 00:16									#26
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FDR may have wanted to get into the war - it doesnt therefore follow that leftists would have supported him. The communist party was generally hostile to western rearmament until German expansion really threatened Stalin - around 1936 or so. They then went anti-fascist, but flipped in 1939 with nazi-soviet pact. At that time for example Pete Seeger wrote anti-war songs, attacking the warmongering interventionists. Of course they flipped back again in June 1941, when Hitler attacked USSR.

Trotskyites were consistently anti-war, IIUC.

Have a nice day.

	09-05-2003 00:18									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko would be interesting wonder if a Bandera Apolytonia could have been organized for the Spanish Civil War

With the large proportion of weenies here?

	09-05-2003 00:18									#28
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The mistake is to stereotype everyone.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava The mistake is to stereotype everyone.

if by lefties the poster meant communists and other far leftists, he was in fact quite correct.

If he meant liberals or social democrats he was of course wrong - but then it would be equally incorrect to indicate that all liberals in US or UK opposed Op. Iraqi Freedom.

	09-05-2003 00:26									#30
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO1003 Communism would appear to be the answer for many during this time. The discussions would have been incredibly interesting and fun to follow.

We would have had many trolls aimed at the commies about the genocide in the Ukraine abround this time.