13-05-2003 07:55									#61
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Are we better off with six units on Sandstorm 6 to keep Vox from taking it, or four to dare them to try? Right now I have three pikes and a medieval infantry sitting there; I could supplement that with a horse from EotS and a WC currently in Sandstorm if we want to. If Vox attacks Sandstorm 6, we currently have three vet medieval infantry and two regular swordsmen in position to clean up the mess.

	13-05-2003 07:56									#62
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Sorry for not contributing, but I made a wrong move and therefore have knoledge I shouldn't have.

	13-05-2003 08:06									#63
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quote: Originally posted by nbarclay Any objections to using all our western pikes to plant five on Arashi 9 and five in Arashi, and to moving our remaining Tempest regular medieval infantry into Arashi? That would leave an elite WC showing as Tempest's top defender if Vox moves its stack back south.

Fine. Can we put an extra MedInf on A9? (belt and suspenders)

	13-05-2003 08:08									#64
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On the eastern front, I say play from strength... why throw out a dare, when we can instead face them down, and hopefully get them onto open ground?

	13-05-2003 08:08									#65
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	13-05-2003 08:15									#66
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If we wanted to, we could move our regular MedInf from Tempest onto Arashi 9 instead of into Arashi. But Arashi 9 is unroaded, so a MedInf there can't help if Vox would go after Monsoon in conjunction with a suicide attack on Sandstorm, and he couldn't be fortified in Arashi next turn if Vox moves back south to threaten Tempest again. I think five pikes and a 3/4 MedInf should be more than enough to defend Arashi 9 this turn, and we can reevaluate the best allocation of forces next turn depending on what Vox does.

	13-05-2003 08:18									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus On the eastern front, I say play from strength... why throw out a dare, when we can instead face them down, and hopefully get them onto open ground?

As things stand, Vox can tie up a dozen or so of our units around Hurricane with a mere five of their units (and only two of those veterans) just by sitting there doing nothing. If Vox is willing to attack on terms favorable to us, I'm inclined to encourage them so we can free most of our eastern forces for other uses.

	13-05-2003 08:19									#68
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Yeah, you're right... the RNG gods would have to be insanely pissed off at GS for that not to be enough, especially given Vox' damage.

We are in good shape, except the possiblity of Voxian horsemen.

Time to start thinking of the counter, and building as well.

	13-05-2003 08:25									#69
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We've been checking the trade situation regularly (and I checked it again this turn), and it's still showing both horses and iron as things we could trade to Vox if we had peace and a trade route. So unless that's lying to us, we don't have Voxian horsemen to worry about.

	13-05-2003 08:30									#70
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I went ahead and moved our northwestern galley 8-8, and all he really discovered was ocean. Now the options for the remaining moves are (1) turn back, (2) keep exploring to the north, and (3) move inland to give Vox another cause for concern and maybe get them to tie up more troops guarding against what we might do.

	13-05-2003 08:30									#71
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Theseus, do you still want the extra units on Sandstorm 6, or would you rather go with my idea of daring Vox to attack it?

	13-05-2003 09:35									#72
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I moved the western galley back 3-3 to see if there are any Voxian forces on the mountains south and southwest of Dissidentville. There aren't. I decided to split the difference on Sandstorm 6 with five units there; Vox would have to win five battles out of five to take the tile (albeit the last one against a WC).

	13-05-2003 09:53									#73
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Closing screenshots and turn sent. As I closed the turn, Bolderberg's build time for MedInfs dropped from three turns to two (thanks to a new mine), so that city can now build MedInfs in three turns without a need for rushing. We're thus better off saving our rushing gold for elsewhere. O.G. might be an interesting target since I think it's now up to five shields per turn. We could do a short rush during the build phase next turn and have a MedInf ready the turn after.

	13-05-2003 09:55									#74
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By the way, mav_son still hadn't read my PM as of when I sent the save, so I copied it into the e-mail with the save. That should be hard to miss.

	13-05-2003 10:23									#75
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Well played.

I'm still catching up in the Strat forum... caught the 'suboptimal' thread over the weekend, and I do want to say, Nathan, you are as good as it gets.

	13-05-2003 13:45									#76
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Looks like a nice job on this turn from everyone. Anyone else think that Vox's use of the immortals south of Arashi is slightly reminiscent of the way the AI behaves? That stack is doomed no matter what now, barring truly outrageous RNG behaviour. I do like the position we are in.

	13-05-2003 14:32									#77
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As I said before, I'd like to get the save in one way or another (getting it from Nathan or becoming listed as the 3rd player).
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	13-05-2003 20:56									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Shiber As I said before, I'd like to get the save in one way or another (getting it from Nathan or becoming listed as the 3rd player). Please use barak underscore twelve (in numerals) at bezeqint dot net. Thank you.

I just added you to my list.

	13-05-2003 21:26									#79
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	13-05-2003 23:10									#80
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Good decision on taking on A9, despite our loses. we are now in a position of strength around Arashi, and Vox has plenty to worry about- their stack is pinned down behind enemy lines, i'm sure they are quite worried now, but not desperate yet- psychologicaly this may be the point where Vox is the weakest, the point when they obviously see they face a determined enemy, their offense is efficiently broken but they do not face a real threat to their existance.
I expect we'll hear from the Voxian Incognito pretty soon...

Nathan please add me to the save mail list, same address as as the pics (zeitan@)

	13-05-2003 23:18									#81
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Oh, and I think it's time we plan some counter offensive, on the Iron perhaps- having only 3 spearmen and 2 Immortals leaves some opening for us- especially when they have to cover so much ground- a landing force of 4 or 6 pikes+Meds could easily take control on one of the mountain tiles, and could some damage. that would take long to repair. We must also put an end to Vox's present around hurricane- Perhaps shifting our Cats there in the next few turns is possible?

	14-05-2003 00:34									#82
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quote: Originally posted by zeit We must also put an end to Vox's present around hurricane- Perhaps shifting our Cats there in the next few turns is possible?

We may need the cats in the area of Arashi for a little longer, if the Voxian stack decides to just stay there. Afterwards we'll need the cats for our offensive upon Dissidentville (if we're going to follow the plan to exploit Vox's mountain road), but I'd be in favor of getting rid of the stack around Hurricane/Sandstorm first - just by staying put, it attracts so many of our units, and IMHO we have to take care of it before we take the war to Vox's turf.

	14-05-2003 11:11									#83
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Hmmm... but they're fortified on a mountain- any attack with Meds will probably end up in us losing more than they lose, which is at that point all Vox would have left to hurt us with, will need the Cats to get easy kills.

Like Shiber said, i also we need those units out before we take a shot at D'ville. It's just a waste of too much units that could protect the assault force right flank (the left one will be the ocean, of course ). If we move with that force first (since it has alonger route), by the time we're threatening/taking over D'ville, we're also keeping a close guard on Voxian reinforcements from the NW.