15-05-2003 03:04									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Ming If a women can make it through Q School, there is no rule on the PGA's books that wouldn't allow her to play.

until that day happens (I don't think it ever will) any ladies wanting to play in the PGA will just have to get a piggy back off the sponsors.

	15-05-2003 03:04									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Sava my uncle Eric is a golfer... he shoots under par (I'm not sure what)... he also is about 6 foot 250 and 58 years old.

You put him at championship distances and I bet he wouldn't break 80. My father who is in his 70's can still shoot par, but he's doing it on a much much shorter course.

	15-05-2003 03:06									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Sava oh please... he might have a chance at an endurance race... that's about it. I tried out and made the Chicago Freeze's hockey team. I didn't end up playing because it would have required too much traveling and it wasn't where I wanted my life go. I could have played Junior B hockey, and if I were determined enough, at least made it to the AHL.

Hmm, so marathon runners aren't athletes too?

Check out his bio. He was very good at other sports.

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The point is, he has the necessary skills to be considered a good golfer. And zero athletic ability. But I agree... combining athletic ability with anything, will probably increase your performance. That still doesn't make golf a sport, or make golfers athletes.

	15-05-2003 03:08									#65
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quote: I'd stack Tiger's athleticism against most baseball, football, basketball, soccer and hockey players. I never said he was a gymnist. But if you don't think the others are athletes, then I'll agree with you.

No way. He would get his ass handed to him in baseball, football, basketball, soccer, and especially hockey, and I would personally do it in soccer.

	15-05-2003 03:08									#66
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quote: Originally posted by rah You put him at championship distances and I bet he wouldn't break 80. My father who is in his 70's can still shoot par, but he's doing it on a much much shorter course.

And he actually shot lower than his age too

But it's not only just the distance... the greens are set up MUCH faster/harder for PGA events. In addition, the ruff if also set much higher than you will find at your typical country club. Pin placements are also far more difficult than you will face on your normal Saturday Mornng Game. And the average tour course is far harder in general than what many people play. Augusta isn't the course down the street

A friend of mine is a -3 handicap playing at one of the more difficult country clubs in the Chicago District. He tried going out for the tour, and didn't stand a chance.

	15-05-2003 03:13									#67
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sava, your claim to be more athletic than the top golfers might well have been true in the 80's but times change, some of the 'old guard' are still hanging around but increasingly these guys are young, athletic and focused.

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Sorenstams Average Drive is 275.4 yds.

Which would make her 159 on the PGA tour.

But looking at the list, I noticed a lot of players that drive shorter distances that regularly appear in the Top 10 of tournaments.

ACK!

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quote: Hmm, so marathon runners aren't athletes too? Check out his bio. He was very good at other sports.

You're logic is strange. Please don't try to put words in my mouth. Sure runners are athletes. But running isn't a sport.

and about Tiger... was is the key word there. I'm well aware of Tiger Woods and his history. Perhaps I was a little to boastful... but that's my nature... I'm confident in my abilities, but if you want a detailed analysis of what a Tiger vs Sava competition would be like:

baseball: I'm not sure how one could compete 1 on 1, but I can say that I am an excellent batter. I have a lot of power and hit a lot of line drives. I play regularly with my buddies. One of which played for the Schaumburg Flyers two years ago. So I can hit against at least semi-Pro pitching.

football: Tiger wouldn't survive against me. I've got good speed, good hands, and a mean tackler. In a pickup game, tackling, no pads, Tiger would be my b1tch. Unless of course he's a good QB...

basketball: I suck at BB, so Tiger would probably beat me.

soccer: this is a toss-up... I don't play a lot, but when I did, was successful. I don't know how good Tiger is

hockey: oh please, Tiger would last about 5 seconds and be done

races: I'm a very good sprinter... I run about a 6and half minute mile... Tiger could probably beat me in endurance races. This is due to the differences in our builds. I'm 5'9'' and 195 lbs. Tiger's taller and skinnier. While I might be stronger, that strength would work against me in longer races.




dammit... this is a stupid and pointless debate... but I typed it so I'll post it.

	15-05-2003 03:18									#70
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Hitting a 4 iron out of deep rough requires considerable strength. He makes it look effortless. If strength wasn't an issue in golf, there would be no need for a senior's tour or a women's tour.

RAH

	15-05-2003 03:20									#71
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aww shucks, that grass is really hard to rip through with your iron.

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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever sava, your claim to be more athletic than the top golfers might well have been true in the 80's but times change, some of the 'old guard' are still hanging around but increasingly these guys are young, athletic and focused.

I didn't say that... STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH PEOPLE.

I didn't say I was more athletic that the PGA people. I said I could kick Tiger's ass in a variety of competitions. He's got his skillset, I've got mine.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava I didn't say that... STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH PEOPLE. I didn't say I was more athletic that the PGA people. I said I could kick Tiger's ass in a variety of competitions. He's got his skillset, I've got mine.

sorry, it was just the weightlifting claim made me laugh

	15-05-2003 03:25									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia aww shucks, that grass is really hard to rip through with your iron.

Obviously you've never done it or you would know better.

SAVA, it started with you claiming that today's golfers aren't athletes. It has evolved into "you can't kick their ass" because you wouldn't admit that they were athletes. But now it sounds like you might agree on some level so it's unimportant who can kick who's ass.

RAH

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I guarantee I bench more than Tiger...

	15-05-2003 03:27									#76
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sure it's unimportant... but I could kick his ass too

	15-05-2003 03:31									#77
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you bench?

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max 240... I do 3 sets of 8 at 200lbs at least twice a week

	15-05-2003 03:38									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Sava max 240... I do 3 sets of 8 at 200lbs at least twice a week

thats way more than me, i've always stuck with the maxim you should be able to bench your body weight, but thats 'cos its a damn sight easier when your 150 pounds!

PS. I still think Tigers a 245 man

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quote: Obviously you've never done it or you would know better.

You might be right that I dont know and thus cannot estimate, but maybe its you thats weak.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava max 240... I do 3 sets of 8 at 200lbs at least twice a week

Hmmm... if I remember correctly... Annika does that as well... EVERY DAY

Maybe this should be about whether Annika can kick Sava's butt instead of can Sava kick Tigers butt

	15-05-2003 03:42									#82
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I'd kick Annika's ass too... I have no reservations of fighting a girl.

	15-05-2003 03:44									#83
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Mud Fight!!! Man, Sava, you must be the funnies guy in this forum.

	15-05-2003 03:49									#84
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Thanks!




BTW, I really feel sorry for anyone who takes me seriously

	15-05-2003 03:55									#85
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Believe me Sava when I say... many of us don't

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quote: Believe me Sava when I say... many of us don't

I too like it ruff.

	15-05-2003 04:00									#88
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And I will remember to tune to 670 tommorrow for "Jag Bag" and "Who you crappin"

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quote: Originally posted by Sava BTW, I really feel sorry for anyone who takes me seriously

counts me out....

	15-05-2003 04:01									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Ming And I will remember to tune to 670 tommorrow for "Jag Bag" and "Who you crappin"

Dan Zampillo keeps shutting me down... I tried last week to get on but he's a real d1ck