14-05-2003 22:33									#1
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I have to admite that ever since I took microbiology in college I have been slightly nerotic about germs. I wash my hands a good 3-5 times a day and when I use a public restroom I try not to touch anything with my bare hands. I even go so far as (after washing my hands with soap & water) to dry my hands off and then use the old paper towl to turn off the water and open the door before throwing the paper towl away (I also try not to touch my eyes or nose unless I know my hands are clean).

Just think about how many people use dirty hands to touch the sink nob and the door nob before you got there. I just can't help but think about how easy it would be for a germ or virus to get around in an enviroment like that. I don't know if my precautions have been responsible but I haven't been sick for the last four years since I've adopted them.

With the recent outbreaks of SARS in Asia and Canada it may help us to take a closer look at this subject. What do you folks do to keep yourseleves from getting sick?

	14-05-2003 22:35									#2
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They can treat this type disorder.

	14-05-2003 22:35									#3
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Reasonable personal hygine, like washing my hands after I use the bathroom. I also use the towel trick.

Another thing: cold showers

	14-05-2003 22:39									#4
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UR: How do cold showers help?

Sloww: We aren't talking about a disorder. Just a general awareness of ways to prevent the spread of desiese.

	14-05-2003 22:40									#5
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I hear SARS can live on eg a doorhandle for several days (or hours?)

	14-05-2003 22:41									#6
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Actually, Germs in small amounts are good for you. Keeps your immune system in shape.

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I just quit eating poop.

	14-05-2003 22:43									#8
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i dont wash my hand, piss all over it, and suck my fingers.

Seriously, if you took bio you should ALSO know that preventing yourself from exposure to virus/bacteria only leaves you unprepared when you become exposed. I was just kidding about my hygiene part, but seriously dont be afraid of ingesting something thats been contaminated. As long as it doesnt kill you, it will be alright.

Besides when you've washed your hands.. do you really think you've killed all the germs? there is still a probability that one of them clung on to your hand and probability it will enter your body when you get in contact with mouth etc. Even when you washed it million times.

So just keep your self clean and limit youself from overexposure. But just accept the fact that germs will come in and out of your body.

	14-05-2003 22:43									#9
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I don't worry about it. People who worry about being sick tend to be sicker than those who don't. I have no idea which cart is following which horse, but hell, I don't have to: I'm not sick.

	14-05-2003 22:45									#10
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I have found one of the best ways to avoid colds is to not take journeys on crowded public transport, especially the underground.

	14-05-2003 22:48									#11
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Just have your company change their attendance policy similar to what they've done at my company. Instead of sick days, we now have personal days. (10 a year) and you can take them for whatever reason. Now no one is ever too sick to come into work because they don't want to waste their personal days being sick.

People actually calling in to say they aren't coming in due to illness has been reduced by 90%.

RAH

	14-05-2003 22:53									#12
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JohnT: I haven't been sick for years and before that I never really got sick even when I was a typical boy who played in the mud and did all sorts of outdoor stuff.

BC: Would it help if they put better ventilation in the underground? Also I remember reading some where that breathing through your nose actually helps prevent colds.

	14-05-2003 22:54									#13
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Easy. I catch every disease going and build up a resistance. Typhoid Mary lived to a ripe old age, after all.

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Lazarus: Controlled enoculation is actually a good idea. Believe it or not the Army gave me more shots for this sort of stuff then would fit into my passports medical section.

	14-05-2003 23:01									#15
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How to avoid getting sick:

1. Get 7 to 8 hours sleep every night.
2. Exercise daily (15 to 30 minutes or more).
3. Eat healthy (for the most part).
4. Wash your hands.
5. Take showers/baths.
6. Avoid too much stress.
7. Make love (preferably a monagamous [sp] relationship).

Gatekeeper

	14-05-2003 23:04									#16
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Interesting, I also share your obsession for having absolutly clean hands. I must wash whenever i believe in any way i have comprimised thier cleanness. If i play table football at work (there is a table football table which many play on,some ppl have sweaty hands) I will refuse to eat anything until my hands have been washed.

Funny that
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	14-05-2003 23:06									#17
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It's not an obsession but I diffenently don't want to touch food with my hands unless I've washed them.

	14-05-2003 23:19									#18
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Who was that famous guy with Oerdin's paranoia?? He was famous for always needing clean hands, washing frequently, etc. I think his name sounded like Jimmy Hoffa or Hugh Heffner but I can't remember his name for certainty. Was it Howard Hughes, the Spruse Goose creator?

Oh, and to answer the first question, "whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger" (can't even remember the famous guy who said that!)

	14-05-2003 23:24									#19
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There was a tv show with a detective who was absolutely paranoid of touching anything which might have germs.

BTW I've eatten fried grasshoppers, BBQed rats, raw fish, and a million other things most people would turn their noses up at so it's not like I won't try new things. I just follow the same procedures most health care workers do to prevent infection.

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Monk

	14-05-2003 23:55									#21
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Ahhh, yes. That's the name of the shoe.


It is rather funny.

	14-05-2003 23:55									#22
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It is common knowledge that germs and bacteria cannot live in alcohol, so I make sure that my blood is always saturated with that stuff.

quote: Just have your company change their attendance policy similar to what they've done at my company. Instead of sick days, we now have personal days. (10 a year) and you can take them for whatever reason. Now no one is ever too sick to come into work because they don't want to waste their personal days being sick.

That's messed up. The company I am at has unlimited sick days. Actually, every company I have worked for since I have gotten out of college has had this policy. You would actually be amazed, however, at the number of sick days ppl actually take... In fact ppl at the company even have so many vacation days coming that some are forced to take a vacation, or trade the days in for pay.

	15-05-2003 00:11									#23
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Well we had contingencies for Long term illness, but prior to personal days, on your performance review you were graded on # of occurances instead of number of days (up to a certain day count). Which was incredibly stupid. Once you took a single day sick, you might as well take a second and a third day. It all counted as one occurance.

	15-05-2003 00:12									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper How to avoid getting sick: 1. Get 7 to 8 hours sleep every night. 2. Exercise daily (15 to 30 minutes or more). 3. Eat healthy (for the most part). 4. Wash your hands. 5. Take showers/baths. 6. Avoid too much stress. 7. Make love (preferably a monagamous [sp] relationship). Gatekeeper

This is my plan...

	15-05-2003 00:17									#25
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quote: Originally posted by badams52 Oh, and to answer the first question, "whatever doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger" (can't even remember the famous guy who said that!)

fredrich nietchze (bah spelling)

	15-05-2003 00:18									#26
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nietzche (I can't spell either) was a loon... he talked to his horse.

	15-05-2003 00:19									#27
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quote: Originally posted by rah Just have your company change their attendance policy similar to what they've done at my company. Instead of sick days, we now have personal days. (10 a year) and you can take them for whatever reason. Now no one is ever too sick to come into work because they don't want to waste their personal days being sick. RAH

My problem with that is then people come in when they are sick, and that has a better chance of making me sick.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava nietzche (I can't spell either) was a loon... he talked to his horse.

i was merely answering a question to someone who wanted an answer for. I didnt say anything much about him


Rah, what happens if some gets sick for 11 days during a particular year? (doctor's note on 11th day?)

	15-05-2003 00:25									#29
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well... I was just inserting an irrelevant comment

	15-05-2003 00:26									#30
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If it's a long term illness, you would take the day without pay but be reimbursed by the long term illness insurance. If it wasn't quite legitimate , either unpaid or used as a vacation day.

The nice part is if you don't use all ten, you get reimbursed for 1/2 pay for those days at the beginning of the next year. So it encourages you to show up.

And for those that say you want people to stay home when sick, nice sentiment but there are enough people that come into work when they're sick under either method. (those workaholics, those that get sick a higher percetange than others, and mothers that have to take days when their children are sick and end up having no days left when they're ill.)