15-10-2003 07:05									#421
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Ok..I will take High Voltage & Youngbloods Gathering..I posted my email there..again it is BCRONKITE@ec.rr.com

I am looking forward to taking my licks and learning!!

(Hear that PETE!!! )

I will lose,draw or maybe WIN??

Nah..but will have a fun time!!

Peace

Grandpa Troll

	15-10-2003 19:53									#422
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I noted you posted in Youngbloods Gathering & Unspeakable Bloodlust.

High Voltage is stucked since 12/09 so was a better choise for you to take Unspeakable Bloodlust.

Thank you Troll

	16-10-2003 02:45									#423
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quote: Originally posted by berXpert I noted you posted in Youngbloods Gathering & Unspeakable Bloodlust. High Voltage is stucked since 12/09 so was a better choise for you to take Unspeakable Bloodlust. Thank you Troll

NO..Thank U!!

I am ready to learn more of this great game..and yes I made mistake on posting wrong thread..

Yes to Youngbloods & Unspeakable!!

Peace

Miss ya and hope to see you return one day soon!!


Peace

Grandpa Troll

	17-10-2003 00:55									#424
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quinns: Sorry about being so slow to post back. yes im from USA and i have defeated the comp on diety lvl. If you need me to play a game to show that i can.

	18-10-2003 01:07									#425
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quote: Originally posted by Protoss72000 quinns: Sorry about being so slow to post back. yes im from USA and i have defeated the comp on diety lvl. If you need me to play a game to show that i can.

No problem. No, I will take your word for it. No need to prove to us that you can beat deity level. I'll add you to the ladder. Welcome!

	18-10-2003 05:22									#426
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quote: Originally posted by Troll ... I already learned something in PBEM, such as how to "flood" settlers out like a baby wabbit factory, (WTG Dimytes!!) ...

In my humble opinion, this is a must-do if you want to climb the ladder. Some Civ1, 2, 3 players call this "ICS" or Infinite City Sleaze or something like that. One of the great things about CtP is that it cannot be infinite (even though some may still think it's sleazy ), because at the 40 city mark, under theocracy, you start receiving stiff penalties for the number of cities above this limit. Some players pump out less than 40 -- fast -- then go to war. It depends on the situation.

	18-10-2003 05:47									#427
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I agree!
(Now I know...too late..as I am WAY Behind the curve!!)

BUT..I will hang in there and make the best of it

So..I now can look Pete in the eyes and say I am playing on an "even" or somewhat even plaaaaying field

Peace

Grandpa "Hanging-N-da-Curve" Troll

	22-10-2003 18:36									#428
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Mathemagician - ricketyclik
challenge game nr. 62
turn 366

the Mongol AI has finished the Alien Life Project one turn before me.

power graph attached.
im the turkish, rickety is the russians

so is this a draw or do i win by power graph ?

Attachment: math_rickety end_screen 2.jpg
This has been downloaded 60 time(s).

	22-10-2003 18:38									#429
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Of course Mathemagician wins on PG. I had only just finished the 1st stage of the ALP.

Well done Math

	22-10-2003 18:46									#430
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik Of course Mathemagician wins on PG. I had only just finished the 1st stage of the ALP. Well done Math

thank you.
it was a looong and niiiice game. a good combination.

	22-10-2003 21:55									#431
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Congrats Math! I'll update the ladder.

	23-10-2003 14:38									#432
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quote: Originally posted by Mathemagician Mathemagician - ricketyclik challenge game nr. 62 turn 366 the Mongol AI has finished the Alien Life Project one turn before me. power graph attached. im the turkish, rickety is the russians so is this a draw or do i win by power graph ?

IMHO, you both deserve a severe wet-noodle beating for letting the a.i. humiliate you

	23-10-2003 16:51									#433
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quote: Originally posted by david42one IMHO, you both deserve a severe wet-noodle beating for letting the a.i. humiliate you

I'm inclined to agree, particularly in the case of Math, who could have taken out the Mongols in one turn. But I'll take the beating, as I am rather partial to having wet wriggly things slapping against my body

	23-10-2003 17:26									#434
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quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik I'm inclined to agree, particularly in the case of Math, who could have taken out the Mongols in one turn.

ummh.. could i ?

quote: Originally posted by ricketyclik But I'll take the beating, as I am rather partial to having wet wriggly things slapping against my body

is that so ?

	27-10-2003 17:41									#435
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Ricketyclik resigned our Challenge Game at Turn 243.

A good game, but I think I had better land at the beginning, found him, and then relentlessly attacked for about 140 turns. More of a slow grind than anything stunning that is for sure.

Good Game !!

Last edited by checkMate on 27-10-2003 at 18:06

	27-10-2003 22:09									#436
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Congrats checkMate... Ladder updated.

	27-10-2003 23:56									#437
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate Ricketyclik resigned our Challenge Game at Turn 243. A good game, but I think I had better land at the beginning, found him, and then relentlessly attacked for about 140 turns. More of a slow grind than anything stunning that is for sure. Good Game !!

Did you kill an AI first or did you go direct at your human enemy, if the last then shame on you.

	28-10-2003 00:09									#438
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quote: Hear that PETE!!!

Sure did, as I said and maintain, that is one thing that makes you a good addition here. It also makes you a far better player than some of the so-called top players.

quote: So..I now can look Pete in the eyes and say I am playing on an "even" or somewhat even plaaaaying field

I think you will do well too.

The sure thing is taking over another players game be it the first place or the last place is a good thing. You get to see thier style of play, other players style of play under different terrain, opponents, timelines and rankings. All in all a win win for all and a must for the strategic player. Your learning curve gains are expotenial this obviously creates more enjoyment. This is a must for the causual player not just the hardliners.

I have taken over dying AI's to winning players civ's. They all had there adavantages but the dying one's were not only the most challenging obviously, but for the most part fun too. You have to save a game from certain death and all the players benefit from that, but also had the chance to test strategies you may not do in other games where each move is critical.

All in all

Ber if you have time to play a casual game email me, I'm up for it.

	28-10-2003 03:49									#439
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Ber if you have time to play a casual game email me, I'm up for it.

I have not much time free to play, but if you don't mind heavy delays we can play.

	28-10-2003 07:52									#440
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quote: Originally posted by TheBirdMan Did you kill an AI first or did you go direct at your human enemy, if the last then shame on you.

Wow, is that really the ettiquette around here. I like to stay clear of the AI as much as possible. Unless they hate me for some reason, I generally won't mess with em.

	28-10-2003 21:55									#441
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate Wow, is that really the ettiquette around here. I like to stay clear of the AI as much as possible. Unless they hate me for some reason, I generally won't mess with em.

No, it isn't. Birdman is joking (I think).

In my opinion, it is a mistake to waste your resources and time attacking the Artificial Intelligence postions in a challenge match.

	31-10-2003 00:53									#442
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quote: Originally posted by quinns No, it isn't. Birdman is joking (I think).

Sorry to be a little late here:

You will never know for sure.

quote: Originally posted by quinns In my opinion, it is a mistake to waste your resources and time attacking the Artificial Intelligence postions in a challenge match.

It is not - specially if you KNOW, that your human opponent actually IS a quicker (read better) rabbit than you. Then it is a cheap way to make your nation grow (conquored cities are often small but they have most likely a few buildings - but most important you get slaves if you are smart = you win more than you loose).

I did try in my latest game against Quinns - but I recon that I launched my war(s) too late - as I lost the game even though I did take many good cities from my AI enemy before Quinns killed me off.

I did it again in my game against Hatschy. He had a larger population than me during most of the game until I started and won my war against the nearest AI. That was partly a success, I had to go to war anyway as my AI neighbour was an active slaver, so I had nothing to loose from the start. Well I lost that game...... but just because I did get too excited and ........ I was too sure that I couldn't loose.

I used it aginst in my first challengegame against Math - with success for the first time - I catched up with him killing off two of the AIs (nearly) and later I used that nuke-lesson Hatschy thought me in the game mentioned above...

I did it again in my game against Ricketyclik - I won "my" match long time ago and are actually helping him with his problems with "his" AI (gifts as massproduction, Coorp Rep etc.....) - I dare that cause I AM going to win my first game (!) by Alien Victory. I can't loose this time.

And I am using it against Gumpold in the SL challengematch. I guess I have a 3½ lead in the PG right now. If I manage to break my AI enemy fast, there might be some bonus points for The Ancients Team there.

	31-10-2003 04:00									#443
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There you have it. I did say, Birdman, that strategy reflected my opinion. Now I understand your opinion on the subject ... even though I believe you're WRONG!

	31-10-2003 08:45									#444
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Well it is a bit risky to mess with the AI.
But if they ever come after me first, I would take as many slaves as possible and try to kill a few cities.
But even then I might try for peace every so often,
unless it was real easy to wip em.

	02-11-2003 21:32									#445
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I too use what Birdy says. The trick I found was to attack them (AI) early. You end up with lots of troops and a bit slower science but the gains in the midway of the game more than make up for it.

	03-11-2003 18:01									#446
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Challenge Match checkMate vs Nimrod is finished

I won!!

Nimrod scouted my land very well and made a tremendous run at me with cannons. Some one hundred cannons blasted away at may land for quite a while. Some how I held up to that long enough to reach Facism. Those orange dressed dudes just took care of bussiness pretty quick after that. I was pretty far ahead in science.

	04-11-2003 00:09									#447
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Congrats checkMate! Ladder updated.

Care for a challenge match, checkMate?

	04-11-2003 08:46									#448
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Ok sure, the only one I got going at the moment is with Math. So I guess I can handle another one.

Thanks for the offer.

	04-11-2003 09:16									#449
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Okay great, Checkmate! Standard settings single side? Or dual-duel? Let me know how you want the settings. You can set it up if you like, but I don't mind either.

	05-11-2003 06:35									#450
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Well, might as well make it dual-duel. I never tried that yet. Sounds lke a great way to get hammered.

Set everything down the middle just like the standard settings.

But one twist to the dual-duel. Make it orang-pink with AI. Not blue-orange no ai.