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H Tower is offline H Tower
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The germans bring up fresh troops from western europe to garrison captured soviet cities and relieve the exhausted east-front units

the russian master spy, Richard Sorge has infiltrated japanese government circles and obtained the details of the japanese warplans in manchuria. his report assures stalin that there is no immediate japanese threat against the soviet far east. veteran siberian divisions immediately start shuttling west via the trans siberian railroad to meet the german offensive

6 Units lost!

DIsorder in Aralsk
Orel builds barracks
zlatoust builds barracks
Perekop can't maintain Marketplace. Marketplace sold for 60,000
Soviets discover advanced flight II
begin advanced flight III
many cities starving/several laborer units lost
Leningrad can't maintain sea port. sea port sold for 160,000 rubles
Ending treasury of 428,000 rubles

2 Su-122 are two squares south of Kalinin with movement points left, they are for comrade anzakoyov's front.



The Su-122 guarding the northern part of the Belorussian front was destroyed in battle, as was the labor brigade near the minefield. I predict that on the next turn, the whole northern part of the front will collapse, there is only a Red Army Unit and machine gunner there, both damaged.

Comrade Anzakoyov, if you decide to call off your attack on Kholm, please hand over one of the Su-122's south of Kalinin to the Belorussian front.

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COMMANDERS AND MINISTERS: IF YOU DO NOT POST THE STATUS OF WHO HAS PLAYED WHEN YOU RETURN THE SAVE, YOU WILL BE SENT TO THE GULAG. I've warned all of before, and after last turn, I will brook no more ignoring of my orders. I don't know how to make this more clear.

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Not yet
Baltic (Henrik) : not yet
Northwest (The Anzac): not yet
Belorussian (colwyn): not yet
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): not yet
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): not yet
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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WOOHOO, the convoy wasn't destroyed. I can airlift 1 in Murmansk in March!!!!!! And another one in April.

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I'm going to post some things I found, but these are not meant as blames or remarks or anything towards the people playing. God knows I often forget things

1. If we change in Kuybyshev the 2 food in to a 1 food, 2 shields, we get the barracks in two turns instead of three.
2. In Moscow, we get a T-34 in 1 turn and we are building the Su-122. It has a better attack value, but soon summer is there and we might need T-34's more
3. We could take the LA-5 from Krasnodar to the front, where we can use it in the summer (cfr air raids)
4. The Red armies leaving Archangelsk would have gotten to the front earlier if we had used the freighter sleeping on one of the mines (I wondered where it had gone, and found it there)
5. Shouldn't we change production in Kaluga and Tula to Red Guards or something? We need the troops!
6. We should fortify Orel if we do not plan to keep Kursk, for otherwise that flank will fall and they will go for Moscow from the south and for the Ural
7. Shouldn't we take the AA battery from Saratov to Serafimovich? Planes will first attack Serafimovich, and only attack Saratov when Serafimovich falls into German hands, which should be avoidable
8. We could take the red army south of Krasnodar and send it to the front, it is guarding a (for the moment) nonetential route through the mountains

More to come.

Finally some more transports! We need the money, we lost the sea port in Leningrad
(We might think of rushbuying it back, otherwise Leningrad is a much less producing city)

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9. We should rehome the red army in novorossiysk (the one from tbilisi) because it costs a shield in Tbilisi
10. We could use the AA battery from Maikop, and replace it by the red army mentioned in 8.
11. We should also rehome the AA battery from batumi which is in Kerch
12. If we take the 1 food, 2 trade from Gorkiy and place it west of the city, there is no longer hunger AND we produce more shields

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what are we doing to do with the siberian regiments??
we should decide what to do with them, a poll or something like that...

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the ones that appeared in moscow I am giving to the northwest front to support the attack that is about to happen, the other ones farther back in siberia will be decided on when they get closer to the front

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I would like a regiment of them beloved marshall, they are going to be very important for our army next winter

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I have checked the Moscow archives Marshall and the Siberians treat all squares as roads!

8 attack and 6 defense but no bonues against units with a movement of two or more on defense.

The also ignore anti tank defenses.

These are ASSAULT Troops Comrade Marshall.

I suggest we get them to where they can go on the attack.

And if we can afford it, build the airport in Chelybinsk. That way after one turn we could fly in TWO Siberians per turn.

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All infantry ignores anti tank defences Steve

And 6 defence means they are quite good at defence as well as attack...

The leningrad front wouldn't frown upon getting a few itself

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All infantry ignores anti tank defences Steve


Nope, Romanian Infantry dont Motorized Infantry Dont Armored Infantry Dont

But Henrik is right most do.

BUT the Siberians do not have 2X Defense against units with movement of 2 and higher. Red Guards do.

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they are free and very good for winter anyways, we should send themwhere the road network is not very good and there are a lot of small cities to conquer

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Leningrad's production switched from the AA it was buildign to a new sea port.
I expect the port to be rush bought next turn, without it Leningrad's production is down to 2/3s. I need to be able to produce a KV1 every other turn like before!

Several Germans advancing on Leningrad and Luga killed off, depending on German actions next turn I might launch a minor strike to destroy Pskov with Red Guards and Cossacks by then.

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And now for this :

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Not yet
Baltic (Henrik) : Done
Northwest (The Anzac): not yet
Belorussian (colwyn): not yet
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): not yet
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): not yet
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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Paul, I would liketo take the plane from Saratov that it stays at Stalingrad, I only have one la-5 at my hands and i would like to have another, is that ok with you?

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And here it is:


Turn order:

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Done
Baltic (Henrik) : Done
Northwest (The Anzac): not yet
Belorussian (colwyn): not yet
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): not yet
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): not yet
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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You have launched the raid against Hammersfest. I have two questions: why did you leave the AA batterie in Archangelsk (why not leave a red army and take the AAA to a place where it can be of more use)? What are your plans with the UK freighter? Disband it in Murmansk for shields, send it back to the UK, ...?

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Surely the freight should be sent to the caucauses for trade purposes. Funds are short.

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And here it is:


Turn order:

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Done
Baltic (Henrik) : Done
Northwest (The Anzac): not yet
Belorussian (colwyn): not yet
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): Done
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): not yet
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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I have two questions.
1. Who is in charge for Tula and Kaluga? Don't we need them to produce troops?
2. Have we thought about air coverage for the offensive against Kholm? We have no problem with air raids in winter, but soon German planes will take off again and strike at our cities. We will never get AA batteries there in time, so if we want to keep this city, we will need to send a LA-5. If we don't we could loose many troops to Nazi warplanes, especially Stuka's!

PS This comes together with point 2. Our air force is spread very uneven. Both the north and the south have some planes, but the centre has almost none. This makes the centre vulnerable in cases as mentioned above. We might consider redistributing our planes over the entire front!

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tula and kaluga are part of the bielorussian front

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Preparing to launch the offensive next turn.

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Done
Baltic (Henrik) : Done
Northwest (The Anzac): Done
Belorussian (colwyn): not yet
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): Done
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): not yet
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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Sorry for the delay my wife pulled me away from the PC

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AND stalingrad commader "please sacrifice your red armys attacking the SS so we get Partisans"

I'll plan to play again after you when these are created!

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Stalingrad commader, please sacrifice your red army units vs the SS to create partisans for me! I'll play last again.

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Done
Baltic (Henrik) : Done
Northwest (The Anzac): Done
Belorussian (colwyn): 1/2 done
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): Done
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): not yet
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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Done.

Marshal part 1 (H Tower) Done
Murmansk (Yop73): Done
Baltic (Henrik) : Done
Northwest (The Anzac): Done
Belorussian (colwyn): 1/2 done
1st Ukranian (Shaka Naldur): Done
2nd Ukranian (Paul Hanson): Done
Economic (greeny): not yet
Armaments (conmcb25): not yet
Marshal part2 (H Tower) Not yet

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