22-05-2003 05:24									#1
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I'm really curious why Al Qaeda would single out Norway for special terrorist attention. I mean I can understand why they're want go after the US, UK, and Australia for stomping them in Afghanistan and then for knocking off an Arab tin pot dictator but Norway? Theonly thing I can even think of is that Norway join the UN peacekeeping forces in Afghanistan and a Norwegien F-15 dropped a few bombs on a couple of hairies but that was months ago.

I am equally perplexed at their decision to bomb the Belgian embassy and I am left to guess that it was just a non-muslim target of opertunity for these fanatics.

	22-05-2003 05:31									#2
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Interesting indeed. I can't see why they would keep grudge them being in UN peacekeeping in Afghanistan, because then they'd have to attack pretty many countries. Norway however is a member of NATO, so that might be one, and they did attack with fighter as you said. Other than that, I can't figure out why.. because if those are the reasons, then they should be threatning whole bunch of countries. Although I'm not from Norway, I'd hate to see any attacks there because it would feel like we would be under attack too.. Mind you we share a border and are small countries. Less distance than inside Texas.

I hope they don't ever plan on doing it, because it will make us super mad. We go absolutely ballistic about it but we couldn't act on it. Though, I'm NOT sure, but I think Norway IS our military ally.. Not sure. I think they are? I think we have some kind of 'you attack one of us, you attack all of us' thing? I believe we might have one.. so maybe.. maybe we could retaliate and kill bunch of fundies after that, I don't know but I hope so if they attack. They attack Norway, they attack us.

	22-05-2003 05:32									#3
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I doubt that OBL and Al Qaeda possess the capability of thinking rationally. With such fanaticism, I'm sure they aren't the most competent military or terrorism planners. They might be intelligent and capable in some regards, but certainly their mental health defects must also impair their abilities. Leaders do really stupid things. And even the brightest military minds make mistakes. I wouldn't put Al Qaeda on the list of "great military minds", anyways. I don't find their lack of intelligent planning all that surprising.

Or perhaps they know of some secret Norwegian conspiracy.

	22-05-2003 05:33									#4
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But then again, Norway is not seen as a big brown nose for the US. Rather silent partner I guess.. So, why Norway? Why? I do not know.

I know there is a rather large muslim community in Norway, but.. I really don't know. The logic of this seems to cryptic for me. If they're looking for making N-Europe their personal enemy (like that we're in trading blows terms) then sure. We kill you all.

	22-05-2003 05:40									#5
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not as evil as finland

	22-05-2003 05:41									#6
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I would guess this is a target of opportunity. Some other country's active cells have been arrested or disrupted - so carrying out this sort of attack is perhaps all they can do for the moment.

Mind you, I'm not sure if this is organised team or a lone indepenant.

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Yes, I spun the name from that thread.

	22-05-2003 05:42									#8
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I'm kind of curious why they chose Norway over Poland.

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Cruddy, that might be true, but it would be bad move. In here, well they don't have support, but we're not biggest supporters of the US and the war on terrorism. We are not against it, but we're more neutral than many other countries. So attacking us would only mean more support for the US and big support for the war on terrorism, against them. If they want to go on and make the whole world really angry at them, I can't see why it's a smart move. We are small, but together we are force to be reckoned with, and they will meet whole lot of pain, suffering and death if they wish so. I think even threatning us publicly should be punished with whole bunch of dead fundies.

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Besides, are there any really good targets in Norway? I think not.. no targets like the US is full of, or other European countries. I really doubt they will actually attack though.. just beating their nipples. But it should be taken seriously, so there's no big surprises and that we can counter fast.

	22-05-2003 05:51									#11
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I'm afraid they mentioned Norway because they already have plans on an attack on Norwegian interests

	22-05-2003 05:54									#12
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Just what is this thread based on? I'm commenting here and I have no idea what this event is you're talking about?

	22-05-2003 05:58									#13
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quote: Norway, meanwhile, says it has no idea why it was singled out by for attacks on its interests. BBC's Lars Bevanger in Oslo says people there were baffled because Norway has a reputation for its attempts to bring peace to the Middle East. Norway has some troops in Afghanistan, but analysts say it is small and other countries have larger numbers. Our correspondent says the Norwegians are hoping al-Qaeda simply got its geography wrong but they are nonetheless taking the threat seriously.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3048275.stm

	22-05-2003 06:02									#14
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Maybe it is an embedded code word, ie "carry out plan codenamed Norway".

	22-05-2003 06:04									#15
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Possible attack on North Sea oil? Bit obvious really.

I suspect the translation; "healing your breasts".

Full text hree if you want this crap can be accessed from the above link - I tried posting the URL and it sparks a spybot.

Last edited by Cruddy on 22-05-2003 at 06:18

	22-05-2003 06:12									#16
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An attack on a North Sea oil pipeline or platform would make a mess and damage Europe's economy. But it wouldn't have the same bang for the buck as flying into the London or Frankfurt stock exchanges would.

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Careful! Cruddy's link asks if you want a plug in from gator corp. DON'T DO IT!!! Check at the Spybots thread to find out why. Trust me on this one.

	22-05-2003 06:19									#18
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SOAB. Altered post, you can get the text off of the first link. Thanks Oerdin.

	22-05-2003 08:41									#19
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You know why? Probably because of the 'OSLO Accords'. To fundy's this was a sell out by the Palestinians. Therefore it would be symbolic if they struck at Oslo.

	22-05-2003 08:49									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You know why? Probably because of the 'OSLO Accords'. To fundy's this was a sell out by the Palestinians. Therefore it would be symbolic if they struck at Oslo.

That must be the reason!

	22-05-2003 08:53									#21
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Osama learned that Norway was evil when he was growing up in Sweden.

	22-05-2003 09:00									#22
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Young Osama, the Scandinavian... you knew they were too nice for their own good .

	22-05-2003 16:15									#23
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quote: I'm kind of curious why they chose Norway over Poland.

Thanks God that they did (or was it a mistake of theirs).
I think we're not prepared for terrorist attacks. Well, no-one really is, but I'm sure Norway will be a harder target.

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Told you.

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quote: Originally posted by Cruddy Maybe it is an embedded code word, ie "carry out plan codenamed Norway".

"... blessent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone."

	22-05-2003 16:42									#26
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The reason they probably chose Norway over Poland is that there isn't a large Muslim community in the latter - Poland isn't rich enough yet for Muslims to want to immigrate there. There's probably a small amount of disillusioned Norwegian Muslims that do not like seeing beautiful blonde women walking around without a veil (it's probably a very small minority ).

Osama probably hoping that they might decide to vent their anger. There's also a greater chance of there being an Al Qaeda cell in Norway, making it a much easier target than Poland.

	22-05-2003 17:00									#27
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IIRC, the Norwegians agreed to extradite a suspected Al-Qaida terrorist.

Though I don't suppose they would have been happier if the perp was tied to a block of concrete and dropped into a fjord instead.

It's also rather ironic that they threaten an awesome attack, then Algeria gets hit by a major earthquake. Allah was aiming at Norway, but missed?

	22-05-2003 17:37									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You know why? Probably because of the 'OSLO Accords'. To fundy's this was a sell out by the Palestinians. Therefore it would be symbolic if they struck at Oslo.

the oslo accord has been dead for a long time

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Doesn't Norway have oil? We all know that islamic terrorism is really just a front for the CIA and that gives US an excuse to occupy the country and Protect the Free World.:P

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Why is pretty simple.

1) Read Sayyid al Qutb or al Maududi - all infidels are targets, as are all Moslems who do not strictly follow the Qu'ran and Sharia law.

2) Constantly focusing on limited targets with high alert levels constrains their ops into high risk, low probability of success.

3) Expanding their target focus globally means that a lot of (fixed) intelligence and law enforcement assets will now have to look and listen at a lot more potential operators in a lot more potential target areas. The result is either dilution of existing intel assets, or the need to spend more money (in rough economic times) to train, equip and support more intel and LE assets.

4) The political effects are no lose: Either greater unification of the infidel world and more propaganda for a truly global jihad, or else smaller countries will isolate themselves more from western policy, and try to appease terrorists. Global jihad between radical Islam and the rest of the world is what these *******s want - go back to point 1 and read al Qutb and al Maududi. Isolation of the US and key enemies, or appeasement, helps as well, they just have to change their tune a bit.

5) Getting ops thwarted and busted repeatedly isn't good for fundraising or morale. Picking on previously unsuspected targets let's them demonstrate some form of global reach and operational success.

6) This is also an economic war - as has been referenced by OBL and AAZ in the past. Increased security is costly, and hinders the free movement of people and commerce.