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Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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There is no formula, Speer is just being dumb, again.

Blonde hair/Blue eyes was big when Marilyn Monroe was sporting those characteristics... because everyone wanted to be like her. Monroe WAS the epitome of beauty for generations.

And most Americans like the blond hair / blue eyes.

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So you think it's all because of Merilyn? ( she was a very attractive woman )

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Well mostly, in the modern world.

She was the Michael Jordan of beauty . She was the poster girl (pun intended) of generations. She dated a President and one of the best baseball players of all time. She was the biggest celebrity of the age, and people thought she was incredibly beautiful.

Of course, the funny part is that she wasn't a natural blonde, IIRC... she just looked sexier with that platinum blonde hair.

Of course, that was just in the US. I think blond hair / blue eyes was held up because people look VERY attractive with that set up (if they are thin and all ).

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I can see what you mean.


I find it funny arguing about this. I never understood these sorts of categorisation. Either someone looks attractive ( in various degrees) or they don't. Hair, skin, eye colour may play a part, but are not on any scale, just how they match that particular person.


For me, that is.

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There is no formula, Speer is just being dumb, again.


what the hell?

did anyone understand what the **** i was saying?

I said that people like Oerdin think that the blue-eyed blonde is the ideal that girls are left wishing they could be... wouldn't believe how many times i've heard people complain that they are indoctrinated to like or be like northern europeans! but no the ideal is for the mediterrenean brunette! Not the blue-eyed blonde!

if it is not, disprove what i was saying about tanning and light-skinnedness...


thanks

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I prefer short, cute brunettes. So sue me.

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It's better than prefering short, ugly brunettes, that's for sure .

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I prefer short, cute brunettes. So sue me.


Short? Why the heck would you prefer short girls? Do you want your kids to be short?

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They have a cute look .

I think he means short as compared to guys, not as compared to girls.

I mean a girl who is 5'4'' isn't short as far as females go, but she is short as far as males do.

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disprove what i was saying about tanning and light-skinnedness

I'll believe you the second that black hair dye starts outselling blonde hair dye.

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what the hell?

did anyone understand what the **** i was saying?

I said that people like Oerdin think that the blue-eyed blonde is the ideal that girls are left wishing they could be... wouldn't believe how many times i've heard people complain that they are indoctrinated to like or be like northern europeans! but no the ideal is for the mediterrenean brunette! Not the blue-eyed blonde!


I'm with you on this. Whenever I go to Lima, I see all these middle and upper class women dying their hair blonde. Lots of them also get nose jobs to europeanize their noses (oh, and their ancestry according to them comes directly from Spanish nobility ) Combine this with widespread anorexia to meet the thin ideal. Creating this single ideal is destructive to women. Besides, variety is the spice of life!

Man, this is a waste because Peruvian women are beautiful as is! Give me dark hair, natural features, and some curvature!

I don't like blonde hair personally - but to each his own. Let's just stop this destructive drive to set one universal standard of beauty.

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Short? Why the heck would you prefer short girls? Do you want your kids to be short?


So what if they are?

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Not on your life buddy! :insert barf icon here:

I do know that in the middle ages until about the 17th century men wanted to marry a big girl because that meant she came from a family who was rich enough to feed her and take care of her so they'd probably have money for a dowry.

Crass but true.


Dude! He's using centimeters, not inches.

90 - 60 - 90 = 35 - 24 - 35.

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Blonde is still the beauty standard. Anectdotal evidence from many woman shows that as soon as they went blonde, they started getting more attention and more success. Even Bunnygrrl noticed it. When she wears her blonde wigs, she gets treated like a star and men wonder what the hell she's doing with a fat slob like me . . . and she's Black!

Marilyn Monroe wasn't a natural blonde. Her career didn't happen until she became a blonde. The same with Jane Mansfield and a zillion other stars.

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Charo. Hispanic, and no spring chicken.

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what the hell she's doing with a fat slob like me


Just let them think you have a big penis .

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Well This thread has come to the conclusion that there are beutiful women of every type, and it's whatever floats yer boat.

All my girlfriends have been typical english girls, all ultra white, altho only one with Blonde hair.

I still fancy spanish women tho! definatly.

Japanese women are nice too, but not Middle Eastern.

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I'm with Speer on this one. Blond hair blue eyes is the "evil standard of beauty that we should be morally outraged at" But give me any other hair color, skin color, or eye color and I can name 10 widely agreed on as beautiful women with it.

But tell me to name a beautiful 250 pound female and I won't be able to.

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Blonde is still the beauty standard. Anectdotal evidence from many woman shows that as soon as they went blonde, they started getting more attention and more success. Even Bunnygrrl noticed it. When she wears her blonde wigs, she gets treated like a star and men wonder what the hell she's doing with a fat slob like me . . . and she's Black!

Marilyn Monroe wasn't a natural blonde. Her career didn't happen until she became a blonde. The same with Jane Mansfield and a zillion other stars.

Then why do I consistently get spams saying:

FREE ASIAN AND LATINA COLLEGE GIRLS!

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Dude! He's using centimeters, not inches.

90 - 60 - 90 = 35 - 24 - 35.


An American who understands them thar Eurocom's metric system. Maybe cause he's a commie himself.

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she just looked sexier with that platinum blonde hair.


Have you even seen a photo with her natural hair?


Azazel:

Two points, which are going to get your lovely pictures deleted.

No naked hands over breasts,
No cleverly placed hands as in your first picture.

Good try to resurrect the babe thread.

Albert:

Beauty is what you make of it. I usually date larger women, just because I like the look.

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Have you even seen a photo with her natural hair?


Yeah, she just looks like a normal girl-next-door. But with platinum blonde... YOUZA!

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We must be talking about different photos.

I'm talking about the one that started her career.

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So am I.

I'll take platinum blonde Marilyn anyday over brunette Marilyn.

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I'm very disapointed to find only one pic in here

About women... I love all of them.

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I'd love to post that series..

However, all the pics would get me banned.

Here's one clean shot I found with Norma Jean.

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obiwan: LIKE I SAID... give me platinum blonde Marilyn ANY DAY!

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Sorry, but I must emphatically disagree with the idea that beauty is subjective and not objective, that objective opinions of beauty do not necessarily cross cultural boundaries and scope. Cross-cultural research into beauty has shown the opposite, really:

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Research shows that even three month old babies stare at photos of the faces of attractive people longer than at photos of unattractive people. The human face and eyes are innately very attractive to babies and hold a baby's attention. This attraction to human faces and, particularly, the attraction to attractive human faces, seems to be built into our psychology. It does not depend upon the culture we grow up in.

There seem to be cross-cultural ideas of facial beauty: preferred features in females are small lower faces with smallish chins, delicate jaws, high cheekbones, full lips, wide smiles and large eyes which are large in proportion to the length of the face.

The most attractive male faces seem to be those that, while emphasizing masculine features such as a strong chin and prominent brow which are suggestive of dominance and strength, also combined these with more feminine, softer features. This may be attractive to women because while it offers typical male characteristics it also suggests a man with nurturing qualities who may be interested in children. According to some research women are most attracted to stereotypically masculine hard facial features during the time in their menstrual cycle when they are most likely to conceive. The rest of the time they prefer men with more feminine facial features. It is suggested that this is because the 'hardness' suggests toughness and survival capability while the attraction to feminine features in men at other times of the cycle suggests an attraction to more nurturing men who would be more likely to assist in child rearing.

Tallness in men is attractive-it suggests dominance, status, and power and therefore the possibility of resources. Masculine dominance and power are epitomized in the giant stone heads of the ancient Olmecs of MesoAmerica. These are thought to be representations of their rulers.


http://www.beautyworlds.com/humanbeauty.htm

On the other hand, race and culture do play a small part:

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However, interestingly those faces considered to be the most beautiful are typically those which have the greatest number of facial features average to any particular culture/race. It is thought that the typically average is attractive because the average suggests something which has adapted to its environment and is healthy. Of course, as the racial mix of a culture changes so might then the ideal of a beautiful face.


ibid.

Information about the importance of symmetry in beauty can be found in the link.

 
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