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Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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I know, we don't make too many threads for TV programs, but who watched at least the end of AI last night?!

WOW... 50.23% won it for the big fella! That's amazing. The best guy won too, IMO.

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They were both good, but, GO REUBEN!

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I am proud to say I have never seen a single episode of American Idol. I do not intend to start now.

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Too late. It's over, Oerdin. Pay attention.

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This is what the wife was watching when I wanted to watch something good. You guys watched it by choice?

Ooookeeeey

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a 1,300 vote seperation out of 25 million.
A statistical tie.

Congrats to REUUUUUUBN;

RAH
My daughter voted for Clay.

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rah, it was acutally 130,000 votes. Ryan read the teleprompter wrong.. AGAIN!

Lancer: Get with the program. This was the best show on TV. People with actual talent were on the tube! Wow!

Oh, and rah, I liked Clay too... but though he oversang every song (didn't like that).

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Clay looks like some kind of doll that I can't exactly remember.
Maybe Howdy Doodie ?

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I am proud to say I have never seen a single episode of American Idol. I do not intend to start now.


I watched the first episode last season. After seeing the horrible, cruel things Simon said to people--things that he has no right to say--I refused to watch anymore. It's one thing to have a talent competition, it's quite another to make a public spectacle out of humiliating people who are following their aspirations.

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Simon rocks.

Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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After seeing the horrible, cruel things Simon said to people--things that he has no right to say--I refused to watch anymore.


That is the BEST PART! And he has every right to say them. He's a music critic and these people want to be signed to HIS label (the winner gets their album produced by Simon Cowell's label).

The first few shows are the best, when the worst, who think they are the best, get chewed out.

Simon is my favorite judge, by far. He tells it like it is .

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Simon is just that--a critic. He hasn't any talent himself that I can discern, except for putting people down.

He has every right to be critical, but the cruel measures he goes to are not only unneccessary, they're disgusting. He has also, as Paula Abdul pointed out, said things to people that are blatantly not true. To tell someone they have no hope ever of being a good singer is not true. He takes delight in squashing people whose only crime is wanting to sing, and I think it's immoral. He can be honest without being mean.

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Paula is annoying. She should be thrown out from being a judge.

And that's the thing, he can't be honest without being mean, because most of those people DESERVE what Simon says. There people have seem AI 1, they know what he's like. So they have no excuse. If you suck, you get told you suck. He is the best part of the show, and a breath of fresh air. The mean comments make that show and keep millions of us watching. He is the man!

SIMON!!!

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You're wrong, Imran. You can be very honest without being mean. Someone getting up and doing a bad job does not make them deserve to be treated with cruelty--how can you say that?

Having a great deal of experience with real vocal competitions, I can tell you that Simon's behavior is appalling. First and foremost, his criticism should be constructive. That is honest and fair.

"You know, your performance wasn't very good, but here's why: you need to work on your pitch, as you went flat a lot."

That is infinitely superior to:

"You are terrible and will never be any good."

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I think you are wrong Boris. Some people suck SOOO bad, that you need to tell them, 'You are terrible and you never, ever, ever will be any good'. They deserve to be treated that bad if they sucked that bad. Plain and simple. Constructive criticism isn't worth a damn if the person sucks so insanely badly.

His behavior may be appaulling to you, but it was refreshing to us. And we loved Simon. You could see it by the huge applauses given to him at the last few shows whenever he was annouced. We love the guy because he doesn't hold back and says what he wants to say. It's about time someone didn't hold back and 'think about the feelings'. Screw their feelings, they knew what they were getting into.

Btw: one of the more popular AI shows what 'The Best of the Worst'. People love seeing how bad some people are. And then last night they had some of those people do a song/parody thing. It was wonderful .

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YEah, if it wasn't for simon, I wouldn't watch. He's right on most of the time.

And clay would be great on Broadway.

My wife got tickets for the their tour at the UC in Chicago. Main floor. She asked me if I wanted to go.
Thank god she asked instead of telling me.

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LOL!

While I loved the show.. I'm not sure if I could tolerate the concert .

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I occasionaly watch this show with my family when I am home visiting them. Simon is pretty much all there is to make the show entertaining.

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If anyone, Boris included, had to sit through so many howlers to get to the competitors, I would expect a snarly mood might develop.

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I occasionaly watch this show with my family when I am home visiting them. Simon is pretty much all there is to make the show entertaining.


Exactly! One of the things I like about AI is that I can watch it with my whole family, kids to grandparents. How many shows can you say that about?

And Simon DOES make the show. Alas, he wants to return to producing and won't be part of AI3 next year.

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He says that now, but they pay him a truck load of money to do it, and it's hard to say no to a bigger truck load of money.

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Who's gonna watch AI3 then?! They'll try to hire a Simon-ish person, but s/he will just be too over the top! Ya gotta have Simon!

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Maybe they should try screening these people so they dont get all the shitty people in the first rounds. The reason they dont is because insults sell.
Also, Nashville Star was one of the greatest talent shows this year. I dont listen to country, but those guys and gals (esp. miranda, and that other girl) were gooood.

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I think you are wrong Boris. Some people suck SOOO bad, that you need to tell them, 'You are terrible and you never, ever, ever will be any good'. They deserve to be treated that bad if they sucked that bad. Plain and simple. Constructive criticism isn't worth a damn if the person sucks so insanely badly.


Bullshit. How does someone deserve to be abused because they just wanted to sing? People who do bad things to other people deserve to be treated badly. People who want to sing and follow their ambition deserve honest, constructive criticism, not abuse. What kind of ****ed up system of morality is it to say people who don't meet your standard of talent are worthy of being publicly humiliated? All these people did was sing--they didn't kill kittens or steal from orphans, for pete's sake.

Constructive criticism IS helpful for anyone. People who sing off key can learn to sing on key, it's not that difficult. For Simon to tell such people they are hopeless is not just mean, it's not true.

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His behavior may be appaulling to you, but it was refreshing to us. And we loved Simon. You could see it by the huge applauses given to him at the last few shows whenever he was annouced. We love the guy because he doesn't hold back and says what he wants to say. It's about time someone didn't hold back and 'think about the feelings'. Screw their feelings, they knew what they were getting into.


The fallacy of the majority. I suspect this is the same mentality that delights in seeing wrecks on the speedway or fights in hockey games. Back in ancient times, Romans were delighting in seeing people ripped apart at the Circus. So what? Schadenfreude may be how you get your kicks, but that doesn't make it right or fair.

Not holding back criticism is one thing, but peppering the criticism with abuse because he gets sadistic kicks out of seeing people suffer is another. That's not just being inconsiderate of feelings, that's relishing pain. Notice how the camera always zooms in on the face of the contestant so we can watch their expression as Simon spews his bile on them. They're playing to the lowest denomenator, and you're lapping it up. Woohoo, good for you!

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Delighting in the misery of others is an all too-common human preoccupation, but that doesn't make it anything to which I want to aspire.

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Reuban is da man, gee.

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Having things thrown at them on karaoke night should have been a clue that they were living dangerously by going out for Idol.

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It boggles my mind how anyone can actually sit through this shite.

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As opposed to reading "expert" opinion here?

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Oh great...can't something like this go by WITHOUT controversy?!

Apparently they're saying that votes were swung in Ruben's favor by Fox.

 
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