25-05-2003 11:41									#1
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I've completed a European Map.

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7 Civilizations
Bug Huge
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You will have to set the game settings yourself, currently ALL civs are set to computer.

Once in game, go to TOOLS, then to the Scenario editor, load up the Europe scenario, and everything you need is in the Scenario and Nations button (I think thats what they're called, lol)


I tried the game out, set had the computer play it all, everyone was doing very well, except for the Egyptians and British. So I had to give them both an edge, because of their land restrictions. (especially the british).

It all went well, the French controlled France, Germans had Germany, etc, and there were constant battles. I think in the end the Russians were going to win, and I think that was because they have a lot of land and wood, so I had to make it harder for them slightly, I just added more stone terrain to their land to restrict them a bit.

All in all it looked great and worked very well for me.


Oh and let me know if any mistakes you can spot.


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About the file: I'm not sure how scenario files work yet, so just unzip both these files into your scenario dir, and hopefully that works

Attachment: europe.zip
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	25-05-2003 11:43									#2
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The file is 330KB

I also wanted to say that the Romans managed to build 5 cities in the land of Italy, so it's not cramped at all.

I edited the pic below so that you can't see others starting and resource locations, but now I am thinking that was pointless since you have to load the file up in the editor anyway, oh well lol

Attachment: europe.jpg
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	25-05-2003 12:48									#3
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i got bored and started messing with it and the scenario maker.

you may see a cheezy ww2 scenario eventually

	25-05-2003 13:12									#4
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Yeah, and someone should fix it up, I don't know Europe's land very well

	25-05-2003 16:16									#5
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hope you dont mind, ive started work on a ww2 scenario based on the map, full credit for the map will go to of course

	25-05-2003 18:50									#6
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it seems nice, Sn00py, I'll certainly try it when I get the retail version...

	25-05-2003 18:56									#7
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It really hits home how damned small even the big huge landmass is for scenario purposes...

	25-05-2003 23:33									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda It really hits home how damned small even the big huge landmass is for scenario purposes...

well yea.

this is why we'd have to do a campaign, like CtW, of ww2, with choice battles / territirories.

	26-05-2003 06:03									#9
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I have a good guess it will take a map 12X the size of Big Huge, in order to do a Earth Map, at the scale of that European one above

	26-05-2003 06:17									#10
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LOL I set the Huge map to 1200 in size in rules.xml

crashed my computer

I'm running a 1.6ghz, 256ram

I'm going to try 600 now

	26-05-2003 06:26									#11
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Add more RAM!!

	26-05-2003 06:35									#12
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Yup, I will need more ram.


100 is the size of Big Huge; the maps must be squared, so you can't edit the height and width seperatly.

600 is 6 times the size of Big Huge, and although it didn't crash my computer this time, it did stop responding after about 5 minutes.

So I tried it on 200, works beautifully, So we can make maps twice the size of Big Huge without a problem.

I had a good look at the map, and it really was quite big, I think I could fit quarter the size of the Earth on that map, which means I'd need a map size of 800 to get a good looking Earth.

Looks like I'll need at least 1ghz ram for that lol


Well, it doesn't rule out a map of earth, you could just have 1 city on Italy and 1 city on England like in the old days of Civ1?

	26-05-2003 06:44									#13
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Well thats the end of it for me, I can't do a map size of 300, it's too much.

	26-05-2003 07:27									#14
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Even though the map size can be made larger, within the editor you are limited by a boundry within the map of which you can't edit. So, Big Huge, is the only sized map we'll be able to make any scenario's on.


Hopefully, RoN2, will have multiple terrains and maps 800X the size of RoN's Big Huge size.

By the time RoN2 would come out (if there is one), computers should be powerful enough for it. But the market audience would be quite low, probably too low for BHG to extend RoN2 to such a level. But then again, who knows.

	25-06-2003 19:03									#15
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Is there a good looking Med map (for ancient times) out there?

	25-06-2003 19:16									#16
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well, thats to bad

a map 4x big huge would have been great

hmm i will downt this map right away, maybe il give the editor a try

does anyone know how to use the script editor? lol

sn00py, you seem to know rons possibitlitys quite good, you think its possible to make a good ww2 europe scenario in it?

	25-06-2003 19:45									#17
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i cant download it??!?!?

it seems every thing i download from this forum , its goes to a white screen and dl something to my temporary map..and thats it'
cant give anything a name or something

Last edited by ArchSoul on 26-06-2003 at 13:17

	26-06-2003 12:44									#18
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I want to check it out.

But I am going on holidays for 3 weeks.

I am sure everyone will have good feedback and it will be polished when I get back

I don't mind play testing though.

	27-06-2003 04:04									#19
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looks pretty good Sn00py, I think it could make a nice medieval era scenario. If you shifted it south and east a little bit it would be perfect for an ancient world scenario, not enough Africa and Middle East as it is right now . . . but don't get me wrong, very nive map
I've also been working on a WWII scenario, trying to get a good looking map that sort of mirrors the old Civ2 scenario. I want to try and stretch it from the ural mountains or so, and still leave enough Atlantic that you can stick Washington and New York on the western edge, that way you can make the allies depend on trans-Atlantic convoys

	27-06-2003 08:50									#20
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Instead of warping the map up and doing US cities you could place Newfoundland, which isn't that far from Iceland, and that's the path the convoys took in real life.

	20-07-2003 13:49									#21
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How about a preview pic?

	25-07-2003 23:23									#22
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help! i downloaded the file, opened winzip-and there was nothing there! what do i do?

	31-07-2003 02:36									#23
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Great work Sn00py .
I really enjoy playing with your map !
The AI needs to be one level higher than usual to compete with the fact that I know the map already, but that's no problem.

I strongly recommanded your map to my friends playing RoN, and I'm doynloading it for them right now