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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:28
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Originally posted by Kropotkin
Of cource they are building a wall, has anyone been able to miss that one? 
When it comes to the building of the wall, I guess it's going as expected. The Israelis are so short of land that the space needed for the wall has to be taken from the palestinians. Bad luck for you towelheads, but that's done in order to reach peace.  |
Yep.
Whether it's good or not, the wall destroys all chances for complete retreat.
I think the Israeli thinking on the strategic level is that no peace plan is going to work(partially because of Israeli intervention, but mainly because terror is so ingrained in the Pal society) and therefore a wall must be built that will contain most Israeli settlements and all strategic zones under Israeli control, while keeping the Pals surrounded in 3-4 enclaves.
Since unlike in Lebanon, Israel will have total control on what goes in and out, the use of missiles is not going to be widespread, so the wall will provide signifactly more safety to all Israelis outside it.
I do not believe that such a huge project is being done just to withdraw from the territories in 3 years because of a peace agreement. It is a long term solution for at least couple decades, or at least that's what I think the planners think.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:28
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But then someone will notice in a matter of minutes and react. While it's not unpassable, it's considerably better than the free passage that exists today from most of the West Bank to Israel.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:28
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The road map also presents many problems in Sharon's coalition.
Out of the 68(? more or less) members in the coalition, he has the full support of 15 of Shinui's members. The National Union and the National Religious party who have together ~12 seats oppose, and according to channel 2, 30 out of the 40 Likud knesset members also oppose the plan.
So Sharon will have to invest a lot of effort of keeping the Likudniks loyal.
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MACEDONIA - It's the name of the sovereign country to the north of Greece
Apr 2000
time: 07:28
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Seriously, though, If I was the one to make the choices on the Israeli side:
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a. demand other side to curbe terrorists. If that fails...
b. take actions myself. If they retaliate....
c. war.
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a. "Tough Luck, try to take some from Jordan, fools!", If they start any agression....
b. retaliate. If they don't stop the war...
c. wipe the floor with them.
3. What do you mean? I don't allow them in! du-h!
4. During negotiations? sure we can talk about that. I think that all of the old city should be accessible to everyone. INCLUDING THE TEMPLE MOUNT! 
5. Large Army? ahh, of course, with their strong economy, advanced technological workforce, and abundance of natural resources.  .
Seriously, though, I don't mind them having an army. I think it's a shame they would invest in something as useless ( And futile  ) As building an army to go to war with Israel.
And, as I've said... if they'll try to pull a trick on us..... We'll kick their asses.
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:28
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And, as I've said... if they'll try to pull a trick on us..... We'll kick their asses. |
How many violations of the Oslo accords were made and how many Israelis died before we started "kicking their ass"? What makes you think short-term thinking leaders wont repeat again and ignore those violations for the sake of temporary stability?
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Eli
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Israel
Jul 2000
time: 07:28
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One of the most important Israeli demands is that Palestine will be demilitarized. Even Barak demanded that, and IIRC the Pals agreed.
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