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A Yankee living in Shanghai
Apr 1999
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It depends. Unless you're talking about the really poor areas, it shouldn't be bad at all. For example, Chungching looks rather lively, and it has 30m pop. |
A lot of foreigners (and even some Chinese) find Guangzhou, for instance, to be a filthy, polluted depressing city. I haven't been there, but I've heard this so many times that I've scratched it off my list of places to see. Funny you mention Chongching, I've heard some similar complaints about it. According to some, Chengdu is also so badly polluted as to obliterate its other charms.
Then there are also a lot of mid-sized cities that are ugly and boring, e.g. Wuhan. Would you like to spend a few months working in Wuhan? 
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mindseye
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A Yankee living in Shanghai
Apr 1999
time: 13:28
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IIRC, no mainstream newspaper was anywhere being critical of this, not even after the fact. Yes, there were some contrary voices, but they were few and far between, and most went along with the official story. |
Hmm, I seem to recall a lot of controversy over the case, during and after. Not to mention, as DinoDoc pointed out, Wen Ho Lee eventually walked away a free man. Not so for the lads who ran afoul of the Chinese authorities - or the many others suffering similar fates.
Anyway, as for "no mainstream newspaper", here's a few examples:
ABC news:
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“I don’t think that you can justify, in retrospect, keeping a person in jail without bail when you’re prepared to make that kind of agreement [re: subsequent plea bargain and reduction of charges]. It just can’t be justified,” Clinton said, adding that he’s been troubled by the case for some time.
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U.S. District Judge James Parker in Albuquerque, N.M., scolded the “top decision-makers” in the departments of Justice and Energy as he sentenced Lee to 278 days — one day less than time served. “I sincerely apologize to you, Dr. Lee, for the unfair manner in which you were held in custody by the executive branch,” Parker told him. “The executive branch has enormous power, the abuse of which can be devastating to citizens. … They have embarrassed our entire nation and each of us who is a citizen of it.” |
USA Today:
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The Justice Department released on Wednesday a massive review of the FBI's bungled espionage investigation of former nuclear scientist Wen Ho Lee. |
CNN:
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But the fact that the agreement comes after a number of courtroom setbacks for the government -- the most disturbing of which was the recent admission by an FBI agent that he'd provided false testimony in Lee's bail hearing -- and shortly before the deadline by which the feds would have been compelled to hand Judge James A. Parker documents that would allow him to pursue the claim that Lee was singled out because of his ethnicity leaves the government facing a banquet of crow.
Indeed, Americans may well find some cause for disquiet at the spectacle of the nation's leading law enforcement agency, in the eye of a political firestorm over China's apparent access to blueprints of some U.S. nuclear warhead designs, appearing to rush a man into court for allegedly helping a foreign power steal the "crown jewels" of the nation's nuclear secrets, only to recant nine months later and concede that the accused was guilty only of something even a former CIA director has admitted doing -- mishandling classified information. |
New York Times
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Justice Dept report criticizes FBI's investigation of Wen Ho Lee, nuclear weapons scientist suspected of spying for China; calls probe 'deeply and fundamentally flawed' |
LA Times
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The report, most of which was leaked earlier, criticizes the FBI for never considering the [Wen Ho Lee] investigation a priority; failing to allot it proper resources or properly supervise agents on the case; and moving too slowly.
It condemns a communication breakdown between the FBI and the Energy Department and chastises investigators for not immediately searching Lee's computer files when suspicions |
Washington Post (sorry, can't link to full article):
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Back Channels: The Intelligence Community
Justice Dept. Slammed on Lee Prosecution
The Justice Department's prosecution of former Los Alamos physicist Wen Ho Lee was beset by poor investigative techniques, inflated charges and weak leadership, making it a "case study in how an espionage case should not proceed," according to the latest critique.
If a hostile intelligence service had launched a covert operation against the United States, it could not have been more successful in discrediting the criminal justice system. |
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Sikander
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Boulder, Colorado, United Snakes of America
Jan 2000
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Originally posted by Urban Ranger
150!! Great scott, most tutors and freelance teachers don't get pay that much here.
And buying a home? Hahaha, nice dream. The truth is real estate is out of reach for most people here.
As for the Lee Wen Ho case, what I was saying was not a lot of mainstream media went against DoJ/FBI during the trial. After Judge Parker slammed the FBI, it's a different story.
P.S. You are right, Wuhan is boring.  |
To be fair to the media, they weren't exactly privy to any information other than the FBI's leaks, and Lee was rather egregiously guilty of the "mishandling" of classified information. It seems likely that he was a spy, or planning on becoming one given the way that he treated classified information. I have held a high security clearance in the past, and I know that he was briefed about not only the rules, but how he could get the death penalty for breaking them.
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mindseye
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A Yankee living in Shanghai
Apr 1999
time: 13:28
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Seeker,
The discrepancy is due to the difference between salaried full-time contract jobs and freelancing.
Salaried jobs are usually connected with some sort of actual school (i.e. not a business). They usually provide room, board, basic medical care, plus a nominal salary (the range you quoted is accurate), and handle all red tape such as visa issues.
Freelancers live on their own, and line up jobs of various sorts including work at schools, training centers (private businesses), corporate work, and private tutoring. The pay range is usually 130-170 rmb/hr depending on experience & qualifications, more for specialized teaching as I mentioned above.
Contract jobs are easier for foreigners who just want to come over for a few months or a year, mainly for the experience of spending time in China (not for making money). It's easier, but you have to work a lot of hours, and you usually live in a campus somewhere outside of a city. The accomodations and food are all over the map, from quite comfortable to miserable.
Freelancers have to line up their own gigs, which takes a little time and discipline. The ratio of travel time to work hours is often high (can easily be 1:1). On the other hand, you have much more spare time and make more money.  Most freelancers spend the rest of their time on things like starting their own businesses, writing, editing, acting, dubbing, etc - this kind of work is all pretty easy to find for the enterprising foreigner with a bit of gumption. Freelancers also need to exit and re-enter the country once per year, which usually consists of a quick overnight dash to Hong Kong (technically outside the country for visa purposes).
Many freelancers are folks who originally came over on contract (or as students or tourists), fell in love with China, and switched over. Most freelancers are on business-type visas, which, like private tutoring, may or may not be legal - it depends on the city and official you talk to. However, in general officials will not bother anyone who appears to be a legitimate and respectful teacher. They realize that we are providing a very valuable service necessary for China's continued development. In fact, I would say that problems with officials are virtually unheard of, unless you do something stupid like overstay your visa or get arrested for something.
Be careful about multiplying the rates I quote by 40 hours/week. It's almost impossible for a freelancer to line up forty hours of classes or tutoring without time conflicts. More importantly, few have the stamina to teach more than 30 or so hours per week (teaching is a high-energy job, at least if you are a good teacher). Most freelancers I know would not want to work that much anyway. Why bother if you can make a comfortable living working part-time? Besides, with the multitude of other opportunities, not to mention the fun of exploring life in China, who wants to work every day and night? Freelancers more typically work 15 to 25 hours per week.
When comparing salaries with Korea and Japan, be careful about the cost of living. What does a typical dinner in a Japanese neighborhood restaurant cost? US$75? Here, it's about US$3. I live in a spacious, beautiful new high-rise apartment, with two bedrooms, large bay windows, and a balconey with a stunning view. This costs about US$400/mo. You can easily find a decent place closer to US$250/mo (these are Shanghai rates, rent is cheaper in most other Chinese cities except Beijing or Hong Kong).
Let me know if I can provide any other details.
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Mao
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Apolyton
Jun 1999
time: 00:28
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mindseye, I'm curious, are you fluent in Mandarin as well?
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Lord Merciless
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Most stuffs are cheap in China:
For only $50, you can have a full course dinner for 8 in a relatively up-scale restaurant.
A copy of Heroes of Might & Magic IV, English version and non-pirated, costs $6.
The Chinese Civ3 costs $4.
The Cambridge History of China, sold in the US for $150 per volume, costs only $9 in China.
A 30 kilometer taxi drive costs only $4.
But the official version of MS Office costs $1100! The price is completely out of reach of most consumers. No wonder Chinese are buying Linux or committing software piracy en masse!
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02-06-2003 20:10
Right now China is a veritable goldmine for teaching! The pay is really high, and the demand is so great that even East Europeans who speak crappy English can easily find work. (Yes, UR, I am teaching!)
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