31-05-2003 17:19									#1
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We used to have a sprite list to avoid different mods from using the same IDs to refer to different sprites. But this list is very old and many new sprites exist now. Time to update the list?

Discuss: What new sprites should be added? (I.e. which ones are/will probably actually be used?) Which ones can be removed? Any other changes?

I don't suppose anyone has a good overview of all existing sprites?

My opinion: Tom Davies and BleuO retired from CtP modmaking a long time ago, so there's no longer a need to reserve space for them. It's not very likely Dinosaur an other exotic sprites will be used very often, but regular Civ3 and AoK units have a good chance of being used, so we should IMHO add some of those.

List:

# CATTLE 1
SPRITE_SETTLER 2
SPRITE_SWORDSMAN 3
SPRITE_SLAVER 4
SPRITE_MOUNTED_ARCHER 5
SPRITE_SAMURAI 6
SPRITE_CATAMARAN 7
SPRITE_HOPLITE 8
# CATTLE 9
SPRITE_DIPLOMAT 10
SPRITE_CATAPULT 11
SPRITE_CLERIC 12
SPRITE_ARCHER 13
SPRITE_FIRE_TRIREME 14
SPRITE_KNIGHT 15
SPRITE_LONGSHIP 16
SPRITE_PIKEMEN 17
SPRITE_WEREWOLF 18 #
MORARU_KYONSHI
SPRITE_CULVERIN 19
SPRITE_CAVALRY 20
SPRITE_SHIP_OF_THE_LINE 21
SPRITE_INFANTRYMAN 22
SPRITE_LAWYER 23
SPRITE_FASCIST 24
SPRITE_ABOLITIONIST 25
SPRITE_CARRACK 26
SPRITE_MACHINE_GUNNER 27
SPRITE_ANTIAIR 28
SPRITE_IRONCLAD 29
SPRITE_TROOP_SHIP 30
SPRITE_SUBMARINE 31
SPRITE_STEALTH_FIGHTER 32
SPRITE_BATTLESHIP 33
SPRITE_SECRET_AGENT 34
SPRITE_FIGHTER 35
SPRITE_AIRCRAFT_CARRIER 36
SPRITE_URBAN_PLANNER 37
SPRITE_TANK 38
SPRITE_MARINE 39
SPRITE_NUKE 40
SPRITE_DESTROYER 41
SPRITE_TELEVANGELIST 42
SPRITE_CARGO_HELICOPTER 43
SPRITE_CRUISE_MISSILE 44
SPRITE_EMPATHIC_DIPLOMAT 45
SPRITE_INTERCEPTOR 46
SPRITE_JET_BOMBER 47
SPRITE_CYBER_NINJA 48
SPRITE_MOBILE_SAM 49
SPRITE_CORPORATE_BRANCH 50
SPRITE_STEALTH_BOMBER 51
SPRITE_SCOUT_SUB 52
SPRITE_PARATROOPER 53
SPRITE_CYBERATTORNEY 54
SPRITE_SPACE_PLANE 55
SPRITE_MOBILE_SUBNEURAL_AD 56
SPRITE_SPY_PLANE 57
SPRITE_AT_ARTILLERY 58
SPRITE_SEA_ENGINEER 59
SPRITE_MOREY_STRIKER 60
SPRITE_KRAKEN 61
SPRITE_PLASMA_DESTROYER 62
SPRITE_DREADNAUGHT 63
SPRITE_ECO_TERRORIST 64
SPRITE_HOVER_INFANTRY 65
#SPRITE_SPACE_ENGINEER 66
SPRITE_JAVELINEER 67
SPRITE_INFECTOR 68
SPRITE_CRAWLER 69
SPRITE_PLASMATICA 70
#SPRITE_STAR_CRUISER 71
SPRITE_ZULU_WARRIOR 72
SPRITE_HOVER_MARINE 73
#SPRITE_SPACE_BOMBER 74
SPRITE_ECO_RANGER 75
#SPRITE_WORMHOLE_PROBE 76
SPRITE_LEVIATHON 77
SPRITE_FUSION_TANK 78
SPRITE_NUCLEAR_SUBMARINE 79
SPRITE_PT_BOAT 80
SPRITE_ELEPHANT 81
SPRITE_SELF_PROP_GUN 82
#SPRITE_ALEXANDER 83
#SPRITE_DARIUS 84
#SPRITE_GENERAL 85
SPRITE_BANDIT_HORSEMAN 86
#SPRITE_CATAMARAN 87
SPRITE_HEAVY_SWORDSMAN 88
SPRITE_LONGBOWMAN 89
SPRITE_CITY 90
SPRITE_SPACE_CITY 90
SPRITE_OCEAN_CITY 90
#SPRITE_SAMURAI 91
#SPRITE_SAMURAI2 92
#SPRITE_SAMURAI3 93
# 94-100 Apolyton Pack units
SPRITE_HORSE_ARCHER 94
SPRITE_PRIVATEER 95
SPRITE_MISSILE_CRUISER 96
SPRITE_ATTACK_HELICOPTER 97
## sprite nos. 101-125 reserved
## for Ctp1 and WW2 scenario units.
#GU101.SPR - atank
SPRITE_BOMBER 101 # battle
#GU103.SPR - bf109
SPRITE_GERMAN_TANK 104
SPRITE_GERMAN_TANK2 105
#GU106.SPR - r35
#GU107.SPR - somau
SPRITE_BRITISH_FIGHTER 108
SPRITE_DIVE_BOMBER 109
SPRITE_RIFLEMAN 110
#SPRITE_SETTLER 111
#SPRITE_LONGSHIP 112
#SPRITE_KNIGHT 114
SPRITE_HOWITZER 115
SPRITE_LEGION 116
SPRITE_CANNON 117
SPRITE_WAR_WALKER 118
SPRITE_MUSKETEER 119
SPRITE_BOWMAN 120
SPRITE_HOVERTANK 121
SPRITE_SWARM 122
SPRITE_PHALANX 123
SPRITE_WARRIOR 124
SPRITE_TRIREME 125
## sprite nos. 126-150 reserved
## for BlueO's units
SPRITE_AM_SWORDSMAN 126
SPRITE_AM_ARCHER 127
SPRITE_AM_WARRIOR 128
SPRITE_AM_BOWMAN 129
SPRITE_AM_VALKYRIE 130
SPRITE_AM_SPY 131
SPRITE_AM_WINGED 132
SPRITE_AM_BLUEWARRIOR 133
SPRITE_AM_ECO?WARRIOR 134
SPRITE_AM_ROGUE 135
SPRITE_HITECH_ROBOT 136
SPRITE_WARWALKER 137
SPRITE_WARWALKER2 138
## sprite nos. 151-175 reserved
## for Tom Davies' units
SPRITE_SPY 151
SPRITE_NOBLE 152
SPRITE_SLINGER 153
SPRITE_LIGHT_CAVALRY 154
SPRITE_HEAVY_CAVALRY 155
SPRITE_CHARIOT 156
SPRITE_BRONZE_SWORDSMAN 157
SPRITE_SPEARMAN 158
SPRITE_FYRDMAN 159
SPRITE_BERSERKER 160
SPRITE_ARQUEBUSIER 161
SPRITE_BOMBARD 162
SPRITE_COG 163
#reserved for WWI Tank
SPRITE_MONITOR 165
SPRITE_STORM_MARINE 166
SPRITE_AIRBORNE 167
#reserved for Seige Engine
## sprite nos. 199 and down reserved
## for Miscellaneous units
SPRITE_BLUE_CATAPULT 180
SPRITE_BELFROI 197
SPRITE_FRIGATE 198
SPRITE_CARRIER 199

	31-05-2003 17:52									#2
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This is Wes' list, yes? IIRC there was a minor discrepancy between Cradle's numbering system and MedMod's. But if this has been corrected in later updates, then it doesn't matter.

Thoughts: Any unit that is being used in a mod cannot be renumbered. Since CtP2 has a catapult sprite already, the blue catapult and the belfroi (this is the fanmade brown one, I think) are no longer used, so can be moved. The frigate and carrier are also custom and unused. We have four spaces 98 99 100 113 which are serving no purpose currently. If we were to abritarily move the last four into those gaps, we'd have a big space 168+ to play with for new sprites, as well as of course 139-150, into which I suggest we put some of Carneron's less sci-fi sprites.

============== unused ============
98
99
100

113

139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150

169
170
171
172
173
174
175
176
177
178
179
181
182
183
184
185
186
187
188
189
190
191
192
193
194
195
196
============== /unused ============


Also, the hosting of custom sprites is a mess. They're scattered between two "files" pages, the directory, and half-a-dozen fan sites which come and go like leaves in a breeze. If we get all fan sprites onto the Depot, we can link them properly, even set up a database, search page or something.

	31-05-2003 18:02									#3
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quote: Also, the hosting of custom sprites is a mess. They're scattered between two "files" pages, the directory, and half-a-dozen fan sites which come and go like leaves in a breeze. If we get all fan sprites onto the Depot, we can link them properly, even set up a database, search page or something.

I agree, something needs to be fixed. We can use Apolyton's disk space for this if needed (allowing us to use PHP to write a search/database/whatever script). What we need first and foremost is a list of ALL CtP2 sprites out there -- but that could be a painful job to compile...

	31-05-2003 18:52									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat Any unit that is being used in a mod cannot be renumbered. Since CtP2 has a catapult sprite already, the blue catapult and the belfroi (this is the fanmade brown one, I think) are no longer used, so can be moved.

Both the belfroi (197) and blue catapult (180) are used in Cradle, so numbers need to be reserved for them.

I believe that I did fix the discrepency between Wes's Mod and mine, but that was a long time ago.

Some other observations
I have Ben's Crossbowman at 188
CTP1 Cleric at 192
Ben's Hurricane (storm) at 176 (unused in my game though)

Here is my list

SPRITE_ABOLITIONIST 25
SPRITE_AIRCRAFT_CARRIER 36
SPRITE_ARCHER 13
SPRITE_ARTILLERY 82
SPRITE_BATTLESHIP 33
SPRITE_BOMBER 47
SPRITE_CANNON 19
SPRITE_CARGO_HELICOPTER 43
SPRITE_CATAMARAN 8
SPRITE_CATAPULT 180
SPRITE_CAVALRY 20
SPRITE_CITY 90
SPRITE_CLERIC 12
SPRITE_CORPORATE_BRANCH 50
SPRITE_CRAWLER 69
SPRITE_CRUISE_MISSILE 44
SPRITE_CYBER_NINJA 48
SPRITE_CYBERATTORNEY 54
SPRITE_DESTROYER 41
SPRITE_DIPLOMAT 10
SPRITE_DREADNAUGHT 63
SPRITE_ECO_RANGER 75
SPRITE_ECO_TERRORIST 64
SPRITE_EMPATHIC_DIPLOMAT 45
SPRITE_FASCIST 24
SPRITE_FIGHTER 35
SPRITE_TRIREME 14
SPRITE_FRIGATE 80
SPRITE_FUSION_TANK 78
SPRITE_GALLEY 163
SPRITE_HOPLITE 3
SPRITE_HOVER_INFANTRY 65
SPRITE_INFANTRYMAN 22
SPRITE_INFECTOR 68
SPRITE_INTERCEPTOR 46
SPRITE_IRONCLAD 29
SPRITE_KNIGHT 15
SPRITE_KRAKEN 61
SPRITE_LAWYER 23
SPRITE_LEVIATHON 77
SPRITE_LONGSHIP 16
SPRITE_MACHINE_GUNNER 27
SPRITE_MARINE 39
SPRITE_MOBILE_SAM 49
SPRITE_MOBILE_SUBNEURAL_AD 56
SPRITE_MOREY_STRIKER 60
SPRITE_MOUNTED_ARCHER 5
SPRITE_NUCLEAR_SUBMARINE 79
SPRITE_NUKE 40
SPRITE_OCEAN_CITY 90
SPRITE_PARATROOPER 53
SPRITE_PIKEMEN 17
SPRITE_PLASMA_DESTROYER 62
SPRITE_SCOUT_SUB 52
SPRITE_SEA_ENGINEER 59
SPRITE_SETTLER 2
SPRITE_SHIP_OF_THE_LINE 21
SPRITE_SLAVER 190
SPRITE_SPACE_CITY 90
SPRITE_SPACE_PLANE 55
SPRITE_SPY 152
SPRITE_SPY_PLANE 57
SPRITE_STEALTH_BOMBER 51
SPRITE_STEALTH_FIGHTER 32
SPRITE_SUBMARINE 31
SPRITE_SWORDSMAN 6
SPRITE_TANK 38
SPRITE_TELEVANGELIST 42
SPRITE_TROOP_SHIP 30
SPRITE_URBAN_PLANNER 37
SPRITE_WAR_WALKER 58
SPRITE_WARRIOR 124
SPRITE_ELEPHANT_WARRIOR 81
SPRITE_LEGION 83
SPRITE_PRAETORIANS 85
SPRITE_CATAPHRACT 86
SPRITE_HYPASPISTS 8
SPRITE_COMPOSITE_ARCHER 89
SPRITE_SPEARMAN 158
SPRITE_JAVELIN_CAVALRY 154
SPRITE_SLINGER 153
SPRITE_BIREME 7
SPRITE_TREBUCHET 11
SPRITE_PROPHET 192
SPRITE_BELFROI 197
SPRITE_HEPTIREME 125
SPRITE_MAN_AT_ARMS 160
SPRITE_CROSSBOWMAN 188
SPRITE_ARQUEBUSIER 119
SPRITE_GALLEON 26
SPRITE_HORSEMAN 155
SPRITE_CHARIOT 156
SPRITE_REVOLUTIONARY 34
SPRITE_NOMAD 111
SPRITE_DROMON 189
SPRITE_PEZHETEROI 88
SPRITE_JANISSARY 159
SPRITE_TEUTONIC_KNIGHT 114
SPRITE_HAMMURABI 154
SPRITE_RAMSES 156
SPRITE_NEBUCHADNEZZER 155
SPRITE_ALEXANDER_THE_GREAT 8
SPRITE_CAESAR 83
SPRITE_MUHAMMAD 6
SPRITE_CHARLEMANGE 114
SPRITE_HERNAN_CORTES 114
SPRITE_SLAVEMASTER 4
SPRITE_ULYSSES_GRANT 20
SPRITE_FRANCIS_DRAKE 21
SPRITE_DWIGHT_EISENHOWER 38
SPRITE_NORMAN_SCHWARZKOPF 46
SPRITE_CORACLE 87
SPRITE_HURRICANE 176

	31-05-2003 19:05									#5
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Lord of the Rings...
190 - CTP1 Slaver
191 - CTP1 Archer
194 - CTP2 Zulu2

	31-05-2003 19:36									#6
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darn. That, of course is the other problem. Getting the names sorted. I really can't see anyway of being 100% standarised without images of each one...


Sprites not on the list that I found after a quick scan of the directory and recent threads:

John Wiley's three musketeers:
http://apolyton.net/ctp/modificatio...tion=go&id=1767

Lev's satellite (His attack 'copter is APP #97 and missile cruise, #96)
http://apolyton.net/ctp/modificatio...tion=go&id=1764

Crousto's planes
http://apolyton.net/ctp/modificatio...tion=go&id=1781

"Steve"'s satellite unit.

The Combat Engineer from CtP1. New tgas needed. Mine suck. This was/had been allocated #113 later on in that thread.

Alper Saracoglu's 38 of mixed cultural background.

My Battering Ram and Xbowman here

BigMC's dinos * 3/4? Allosaur, Stegosaur and Parasaur ( +Anklyosaur?)


Stankarp's: heavy spearman, phalanx, war chariot, galley, heavy cavalry, legion, (keshik on the way ?)

FRITZ has just released 9 more AD 1800 units - all animated, movement and attack, a little off-centre of tile, but very nice-looking in with his EUROPE 1800 scenario.

And law's 9 units I have somewhere.
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=30326


I've searched the forum back to when Tom released his Chariot. I can't guarantee that's the lot of them, but I'm not about to double-check.

Last edited by Immortal Wombat on 31-05-2003 at 20:46

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quote: SPRITE_CITY 90 SPRITE_SPACE_CITY 90 SPRITE_OCEAN_CITY 90

I think I tried to use one of these sprites and I think it was a settler but I am not shure, so if it is really something we already have then it could be replaced by something else. Presuming it does not make any trouble. Also the gu000.spr is not used.

-Martin

	02-06-2003 03:33									#8
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I tried the above links and for the first 3, got a "congratulations you found a missing page error"??

30326 did connect though.
Locutus, can I bundle up all my sprites into one folder and submit them for you to put in the units section of the ctp2 information pages? I can also do Canerons units as well if you like as I downloaded all of them.

I have Med mod, SAP and Cradle downloaded and my numbers for sprites were inserted into gaps(except for cataphract- need to give that a new number). They are.
-194 Auxilliary Legion.
-Cataphract 086
-Galley 187
-Heavy Cavalry 169
-heavy spearman 157
-Phalanx 196
-war chariot 146.
-legion 195

Working on Peltast ATM.

	04-06-2003 16:56									#9
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Just posted my Peltast, Sprite no 191.

Renumbered Cataphract from 086 to 193.

	04-06-2003 18:54									#10
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Work In Progress

As a database, it sucks, but this is a very basic version of the kind of thing we need.

	04-06-2003 20:10									#11
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How come there aren't any links to some pages (ie IW's work in progress, and the civ3 units) at the CTP modmakers depot main page?
...or is there, and I'm just blind and/or stupid

	04-06-2003 20:20									#12
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Because the main page isn't updated as much as it should be.

We use the Depot more as an FTP host* than as a web site/directory. Consequently, not everything that gets put up on it gets linked from the main page.


* Contrary to the intentions of the host, amusingly enough - but if they will provide an enormous amount of file space, they have to expect some people to use it for files - html doesnt use an awful lot of space.

	04-06-2003 23:53									#13
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The three paratroopers and four unique infantries in the WW2 scenario have not been assigned sprite numbers. Request we put the Marines at least in with the other scenario units/WW2 tanks and planes at numbers 98,99,100.

If we also relocated the AP1 units (horse archer, privateer, 'copter and missile cruiser) we'd have room for the infantries in 94-97. Do any CtP2 mods use the 4 Apolyton Pack units?

edit: ok, MM2 does. Scrap that.

Last edited by Immortal Wombat on 04-06-2003 at 23:58

	06-06-2003 19:55									#14
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Ok... The index is now updated to where Wes left off. I have added Lev's satellite to #98 and Crousto's planes as #99 and #100. This fills that gap nicely.
edit: I have since replaced these, as they clashed with WAW sprite allocation. They are now at #149,#150 and #164.
Which leaves (as a maximum - see Appendix):
Numbers to Assign:

code:

009		(1)
200		(1)
		-----
		(2)

2 spaces.
+166/167 ???

And these sprites to put into it... In order of groups of priority (IMO)

quote: C:CtP: 27 still unassigned abolitionist, bomber, cavalry, c-branch, cyberninja, crawler, diplomat, drone, ecoranger, fascist, fighter, fire trireme, infector, lawyer, m-gunner, marine, mounted archer, phantom, pikeman, pod, sea engineer, slaver, space fighter, spy, s-bomber, tank, televangelist, Immortal Wombat: 1 Battering Ram FRITZ: 9 Europe 1800 units. Musketeers, cossacks, etc. Alper Saracoglu: 39 (all unanimated) Harlan Thompson: (lots) WW2 Unit pack. (all unanimated) But lots of 'planes and ships that don't need movement animation, and still look fine. I have 140 on file. I'm not sure how many of these are new and unique. Most I think. NB: 198 and 199 are from this pack IIRC. LittleWing: 8 Fantasyesque units. Only a couple usable in 'real' historical context. BlueO: 5 Sprites mentioned in his AltoSciFi newsprite.txt, but #ed out #SPRITE_SKY_ANGEL, SPRITE_WAR_GODDESS, #SPRITE_IMPERIAL_SHADOW_TROOPER #SPRITE_BATTLE_MECHA, SPRITE_AL_GROUND Do they even exist? Big Mc: 4 Allosaur, Stegosaur and Parasaur ( + Anklyosaur?) "Steve"'s Satellite (directory) With sounds IIRC. But... no space in CtP2 John Wiley's Three-coloured musketeers (unaminated) Lars Anders Willen (law): 9 Mostly fantastic, or sci-fi. (unanimated)

Please forgive me if I've missed anyone or anything out.

Also on the depot I have uploaded thumbnails of the first 50 of those (the C:CtP, WW2 ones, Stankarps and mine) but they aren't linked in a page yet. You can access them by FTP in the directory root/sprites/imgs/un# . I think it would be useful to have these indexed anyway, even if they aren't in the first 200.

Queries:
#110: Noted in WesW's list as Rifleman. Which is this?
166: Down as Storm Marine. Surely this is #73?
167: Down as Airborne. Is this the Para Transport plane? This is #54
Why does gl_str.txt say CYBERATTORNEY? Is there actually a CyberAttorney? I can't find one.


Appendix:
Cradle places IW's crossbowman at 188 and a hurricane at 176 and the C:CtP slaver at 190. These are fine.
But Cradle and LOTR also introduce four duplicitous numberings with MedMod standard:
SPRITE_PROPHET 192 #TD's spy - Wes used 151
SPRITE_DROMON 189 #CtP1 longship - Wes used 112
191 - CTP1 Archer # Wes used 120
194 - CTP2 Zulu2 # Wes used 72

At this point, the number of downloads for Cradle and MedMod makes the task of eliminating this impossible. So we've got the four units in there twice. It also means we should - if we had wanted to - put all the C:CtP units in the block ending 191, to swallow up the Longship-Slaver-Archer (Cradle 189-191), with only the Crossbowman as an interruption.
Also, the CATTLE sprite is in there twice, as numbers 1 and 9. This can be removed without difficulty.

For clarity:

code:

#1   SPRITE_CATTLE		# Unused
#2   SPRITE_SETTLER 
#3   SPRITE_SWORDSMAN		# (WARRIOR)
#4   SPRITE_SLAVER 
#5   SPRITE_MOUNTED_ARCHER 
#6   SPRITE_SAMURAI 
#7   SPRITE_CATAMARAN 
#8   SPRITE_HOPLITE 
#9   SPRITE_CATTLE		# Unused
#10  SPRITE_DIPLOMAT 
#11  SPRITE_CATAPULT 
#12  SPRITE_CLERIC 
#13  SPRITE_ARCHER 
#14  SPRITE_FIRE_TRIREME 
#15  SPRITE_KNIGHT 
#16  SPRITE_LONGSHIP 
#17  SPRITE_PIKEMEN 
#18  SPRITE_WEREWOLF		# (MORARU_KYONSHI)
#19  SPRITE_CULVERIN		# CtP2 (CANNON)
#20  SPRITE_CAVALRY 
#21  SPRITE_SHIP_OF_THE_LINE
#22  SPRITE_INFANTRYMAN
#23  SPRITE_LAWYER
#24  SPRITE_FASCIST
#25  SPRITE_ABOLITIONIST 
#26  SPRITE_CARRACK
#27  SPRITE_MACHINE_GUNNER
#28  SPRITE_ANTIAIR		# Unused. WW2 scen?
#29  SPRITE_IRONCLAD
#30  SPRITE_TROOP_SHIP
#31  SPRITE_SUBMARINE
#32  SPRITE_STEALTH_FIGHTER
#33  SPRITE_BATTLESHIP
#34  SPRITE_SECRET_AGENT 
#35  SPRITE_FIGHTER 
#36  SPRITE_AIRCRAFT_CARRIER 
#37  SPRITE_URBAN_PLANNER 
#38  SPRITE_TANK 
#39  SPRITE_MARINE 
#40  SPRITE_NUKE 
#41  SPRITE_DESTROYER 
#42  SPRITE_TELEVANGELIST 
#43  SPRITE_CARGO_HELICOPTER 
#44  SPRITE_CRUISE_MISSILE 
#45  SPRITE_EMPATHIC_DIPLOMAT 
#46  SPRITE_INTERCEPTOR 
#47  SPRITE_JET_BOMBER 
#48  SPRITE_CYBER_NINJA 
#49  SPRITE_MOBILE_SAM 
#50  SPRITE_CORPORATE_BRANCH 
#51  SPRITE_STEALTH_BOMBER 
#52  SPRITE_SCOUT_SUB 
#53  SPRITE_PARATROOPER 
#54  SPRITE_CYBERATTORNEY 
#55  SPRITE_SPACE_PLANE 
#56  SPRITE_MOBILE_SUBNEURAL_AD 
#57  SPRITE_SPY_PLANE 
#58  SPRITE_AT_ARTILLERY 
#59  SPRITE_SEA_ENGINEER 
#60  SPRITE_MOREY_STRIKER 
#61  SPRITE_KRAKEN 
#62  SPRITE_PLASMA_DESTROYER 
#63  SPRITE_DREADNAUGHT 
#64  SPRITE_ECO_TERRORIST 
#65  SPRITE_HOVER_INFANTRY 
#66  #SPRITE_SPACE_ENGINEER 
#67  SPRITE_JAVELINEER 
#68  SPRITE_INFECTOR 
#69  SPRITE_CRAWLER 
#70  SPRITE_PLASMATICA 
#71  #SPRITE_STAR_CRUISER 
#72  SPRITE_ZULU_WARRIOR 
#73  SPRITE_HOVER_MARINE 
#74  #SPRITE_SPACE_BOMBER 
#75  SPRITE_ECO_RANGER
#76  #SPRITE_WORMHOLE_PROBE 
#77  SPRITE_LEVIATHON 
#78  SPRITE_FUSION_TANK 
#79  SPRITE_NUCLEAR_SUBMARINE 
#80  SPRITE_PT_BOAT 
#81  SPRITE_ELEPHANT		# Alex Scen
#82  SPRITE_SELF_PROP_GUN	# (ARTILLERY)
#83  #SPRITE_ALEXANDER		# Alex Scen
#84  #SPRITE_DARIUS		# Alex Scen
#85  #SPRITE_GENERAL		# Alex Scen
#86  SPRITE_BANDIT_HORSEMAN	# Alex Scen
#87  #SPRITE_CATAMARAN		# Alex Scen
#88  SPRITE_HEAVY_SWORDSMAN	# Alex Scen
#89  SPRITE_LONGBOWMAN		# Alex Scen
#90  SPRITE_CITY
#91  SPRITE_SAMURAI		# Samurai Scen
#92  SPRITE_SAMURAI2		# Samurai Scen
#93  SPRITE_SAMURAI3		# Samurai Scen
#94  SPRITE_HORSE_ARCHER	# AP: Jim Hair & Harlan Thompson
#95  SPRITE_PRIVATEER 		# AP: unknown author
#96  SPRITE_MISSILE_CRUISER 	# AP: Lev
#97  SPRITE_ATTACK_HELICOPTER	# AP: Lev
#98  SPRITE_M1_ARTILLERY	# Harlan (As numbered by WAW)
#99  SPRITE_M2_ARTILLERY	# Harlan (As numbered by WAW)
#100 SPRITE_TANK1_WAW		# WW2 French Tank S35 (As numbered by WAW)
#101 SPRITE_TANK2_WAW		# WAW Tank: Mark IV
#102 SPRITE_FAIRY_BOMBER	# WW2 (British) Fairy Battle Bomber   
#103 SPRITE_TANK3_WAW		# WAW Tank: Tiger
#104 SPRITE_TANK4_WAW	 	# WAW Tank: Matilda
#105 SPRITE_BF109		# WW2 (German) Bf109
#106 SPRITE_TANK5_WAW		# WAW Tank: Sherman    
#107 SPRITE_TANK6_WAW		# WAW Tank: T34-86	
#108 SPRITE_BRITISH_FIGHTER	# WW2 Spitfire
#109 SPRITE_DIVE_BOMBER		# WW2 Stuka DiveBomber 
#110 SPRITE_PILLBOX		# WW2 Immobile Unit
#111 SPRITE_SETTLER		# C:CtP
#112 SPRITE_LONGSHIP		# |
#113 SPRITE_COMBAT_ENGINEER	# |
#114 SPRITE_KNIGHT		# |
#115 SPRITE_HOWITZER		# |
#116 SPRITE_LEGION		# |
#117 SPRITE_CANNON		# |
#118 SPRITE_WAR_WALKER		# |
#119 SPRITE_MUSKETEER		# |
#120 SPRITE_BOWMAN		# |	# And Also UNIT_TANK7_WAW "KV-1"
#121 SPRITE_HOVERTANK		# |
#122 SPRITE_SWARM		# |
#123 SPRITE_PHALANX		# |
#124 SPRITE_WARRIOR		# |
#125 SPRITE_TRIREME		# C:CtP
#126 SPRITE_MECH1_WAW		# World at War (units from Harlan's WW2 Unit Pack) 
#127 SPRITE_MECH2_WAW		# |
#128 SPRITE_AA_FIELD_WAW 	# |
#129 SPRITE_AA_CITY_WAW		# |
#130 SPRITE_BIPLANE_WAW		# |
#131 SPRITE_FIGHTER1_WAW	# |
#132 SPRITE_FIGHTER2_WAW	# |
#133 SPRITE_FIGHTER3_WAW	# |
#134 SPRITE_FIGHTER4_WAW 	# |
#135 SPRITE_FIGHTER5_WAW	# |
#136 SPRITE_FIGHTER6_WAW	# |
#137 SPRITE_BOMBER1_WAW		# |
#138 SPRITE_BOMBER2_WAW		# |
#139 SPRITE_BOMBER3_WAW		# |
#140 SPRITE_V1_WAW 		# |
#141 SPRITE_BATTLECRUISER_WAW	# |
#142 SPRITE_CRUISER_WAW 	# | Harlan's Frigate/Cruiser  SAME AS MM2 #198
#143 SPRITE_UBOAT_WAW		# |
#144 SPRITE_PTBOAT_WAW		# World at War (units from Harlan's WW2 Unit Pack)    
#145 SPRITE_TANK		# WW2 Scenario Generic Tank
#146 SPRITE_TANK_II		# WW2 Scenario German Tank MkII
#147 SPRITE_TANK_III		# WW2 Scenario German Tank Mk III
#148 SPRITE_R35			# WW2 Scenario French Tank R35 (S35 @ #100)
#149 SPRITE_EF2000		# Crousto 
#150 SPRITE_F22			# Crousto
#151 SPRITE_SPY			# Tom Davies (Morgoth)
#152 SPRITE_NOBLE		# |      
#153 SPRITE_SLINGER		# |      
#154 SPRITE_LIGHT_CAVALRY	# |      
#155 SPRITE_HEAVY_CAVALRY	# |     
#156 SPRITE_CHARIOT		# |      
#157 SPRITE_BRONZE_SWORDSMAN	# |      
#158 SPRITE_SPEARMAN		# |      
#159 SPRITE_FYRDMAN		# |      
#160 SPRITE_BERSERKER		# |      
#161 SPRITE_ARQUEBUSIER		# |     
#162 SPRITE_BOMBARD		# |     
#163 SPRITE_COG			# Tom Davies (Morgoth)
#164 SPRITE_SATELLITE		# AP: Lev 
#165 SPRITE_MONITOR		# Tom Davies (Morgoth)
#166 SPRITE_STORM_MARINE	# Unable to Identify
#167 SPRITE_AIRBORNE		# Unable to Identify
#168 SPRITE_SEIGE_ENGINE 		# Stankarp 
#169 SPRITE_BALLISTA 		# Stankarp 
#170 SPRITE_HEAVY_CAVALRY 	# Stankarp 
#171 SPRITE_HEAVY_SPEARMAN	# Stankarp 
#172 SPRITE_CHARIOT_ARCHER	# Stankarp 
#173 SPRITE_PHALANX		# Stankarp 
#174 SPRITE_GALLEY		# Stankarp 
#175 SPRITE_LEGION		# Stankarp 
#176 SPRITE_HURRICANE		# (LOTR) Immortal Wombat
#177 SPRITE_BRITISH_PARA	# WW2 Scen
#178 SPRITE_US_PARA		# WW2 Scen
#179 SPRITE_GERMAN_PARA		# WW2 Scen
#180 SPRITE_BLUE_CATAPULT	# Harlan Thompson & Jim Hair
#181 SPRITE_INFANTRY_GERMAN	# WW2 Scen 
#182 SPRITE_INFANTRY_FRENCH	# WW2 Scen
#183 SPRITE_INFANTRY_BELGIAN	# WW2 Scen
#184 SPRITE_INFANTRY_DUTCH	# WW2 Scen
#185 SPRITE_GENERAL_GREY	# WW2 Scen
#186 SPRITE_GENERAL_GREEN	# WW2 Scen
#187 SPRITE_GENERAL_BROWN	# WW2 Scen (Unused)
#188 SPRITE_CROSSBOWMAN		# (Cradle) Immortal Wombat
#189 SPRITE_DROMON		# (Cradle) CtP1 Longship cf #112
#190 SPRITE_SWORDSMAN		# Caranorn
#191 SPRITE_ARCHER		# (Cradle) CtP1 Archer cf #120
#192 SPRITE_PROPHET		# (Cradle) Tom Davies' Spy cf #151
#193 SPRITE_CATAPHRACT		# Stankarp
#194 SPRITE_ZULU2		# (Cradle) EB Zulu Warrior cf #72
#195 SPRITE_PELTAST		# Stankarp
#196 SPRITE_AUXILLARY_LEGION	# Stankarp
#197 SPRITE_BELFROI		# Jerome Lux
#198 SPRITE_FRIGATE 		# Harlan Thompson
#199 SPRITE_CARRIER 		# Harlan Thompson
#200

And finally, unnumbered, but catalogued:

code:

 SPRITE_AM_SWORDSMAN		# BlueO                      
 SPRITE_AM_ARCHER		# |                          
 SPRITE_AM_WARRIOR		# |                          
 SPRITE_AM_BOWMAN		# |                          
 SPRITE_AM_VALKYRIE		# |                          
 SPRITE_AM_SPY			# | (SM_MISTRESS)            
 SPRITE_AM_WINGED		# | (BATTLE_ANGEL)           
 SPRITE_AM_BLUEWARRIOR		# | (GUARDIAN_DEFENDER)      
 SPRITE_AM_ECO?WARRIOR		# | (GUARDIAN_PURIFIER)      
 SPRITE_AM_ROGUE		# |                          
 SPRITE_HITECH_ROBOT		# | (IMPERIAL_POWER_TROOPER) 
 SPRITE_WARWALKER		# | (WAR_WALKER)             
 SPRITE_WARWALKER2		# | (VERITECH_FIGHTER)       
 SPRITE_ZOMBIES			# |                          
 SPRITE_ALIEN_AIR		# BlueO   

Last edited by Immortal Wombat on 04-07-2003 at 20:31

	09-06-2003 04:32									#15
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Well done, IW. This should save people a lot of time.

Notes: In the index,

41 Ship of the Line should be Destroyer.

95 (Privateer) and 96 (Missile Cruiser) aren't animated. I've always hoped that someone would do animated versions of these.

IIRC, WesW's 110 Rifleman is the same as the 119 Musketeer, but I have a vague recollection of seeing a different sprite in Wes's CTP1 Mod. If this is wrong, see below.

"166: Down as Storm Marine. Surely this is #73?" It's a CTP1 sprite that's different from #73.


Suggestions:

110: WW2 Pillbox. I'm using it as an immobile unit (not a tile improvement) that you can build in cities to try to counter the tank rush. I've got SLIC that makes them vulnerable to Bombers, Fighters, and especially Cruise Missiles.

I'm also using:

brown marine (BRITISH_PARATROOPER) 120

SPRITE_BLUE_GENERAL 110
SPRITE_BROWN_GENERAL 111
SPRITE_GREEN_GENERAL 113

Any suggestions as to where I should slot these in?

Some of the CTP1 sprites could be useful: cavalry, fascist, ship of the line (it's slightly different from the CTP2 one). I don't have access to CTP1 at the moment so I can't check out the others.

	09-06-2003 16:13									#16
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Thanks Peter

quote: Originally posted by Peter Triggs 41 Ship of the Line should be Destroyer. 95 (Privateer) and 96 (Missile Cruiser) aren't animated. I've always hoped that someone would do animated versions of these.

Copy-paste errors: now corrected.

quote: IIRC, WesW's 110 Rifleman is the same as the 119 Musketeer, but I have a vague recollection of seeing a different sprite in Wes's CTP1 Mod. If this is wrong, see below.

I'll check.

quote: "166: Down as Storm Marine. Surely this is #73?" It's a CTP1 sprite that's different from #73.

I wondered, but I only had the *tgas and CtP1 vidoes at the time, and from different angles it all looks different anyway, and I wasn't sure. But if #166 is the CtP1 sprite, what is #73? There isn't a storm marine unit in CtP2, did they make an updated sprite and then never use it?

quote: Suggestions: 110: WW2 Pillbox. I'm using it as an immobile unit (not a tile improvement)

Added.

quote: I'm also using: brown marine (BRITISH_PARATROOPER) 120 SPRITE_BLUE_GENERAL 110 SPRITE_BROWN_GENERAL 111 SPRITE_GREEN_GENERAL 113 Any suggestions as to where I should slot these in?

At the moment I'm thinking 141-150 would make a good slot for the rest of the WW2 sprites, but it might depend on whether we choose to remove BlueO's sprites from the list. In terms of general usefulness they come somewhere near the bottom of the list: meven most scenarios are unlikely to be built around BlueO's own private scifi/fantasy world.

quote: Some of the CTP1 sprites could be useful: cavalry, fascist, ship of the line (it's slightly different from the CTP2 one). I don't have access to CTP1 at the moment so I can't check out the others.

Yes. I think this needs polling.

	10-06-2003 04:54									#17
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I have SAP, Cradle, Med Mod and WAW downloaded. I allocated my sprite numbers to ones not used by the above.

They are as follows. Please note the Legion is a re work of the original version and has a plume on his helmet and attacks with the gladius to distinguish him from the auxilliary. The auxilliary is the original legion I did but he attacks with the pilum.

1) heavy spearman-157
2)phalanx-196
3)chariot archer-146
4)heavy cavalry-169
5)galley-187
6)peltast-191
7)legionary-195
8)auxilliary legionary-194
9)cataphract-193

	10-06-2003 14:19									#18
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Before you finish your mod, would it be possible to request a renumbering to #141-149 or #168-175 (+ #177), to keep them all together and to ensure there is unlikely to be any overlap at all. Some of those numbers are designated sprites already, even though they may not be in use actively, it is probably advisable to keep them as they are.

	11-06-2003 03:10									#19
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Shall do.:-)

	12-06-2003 06:25									#20
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Don't forget that WAW mod adds onto the sprite list.

	12-06-2003 17:25									#21
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oops.
So that gives us double-assigned #120, and #99-100 (which was my fault, and changes to which don't affect other mods)

And #126-144, which cuts BlueO out completely. Um. Any objections to losing BlueO's sprites from the main list?

	12-06-2003 21:49									#22
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Would it be possible to place links on the work in progress to allow people to download them easier.

	12-06-2003 22:10									#23
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Certainly. I will eventually get around to it, but if anyone else wants to, by all means go ahead. The depot is pretty much open to anyone who can and wants to improve it.

	12-06-2003 22:36									#24
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Are you going to put all the ctp1 units on. I know that some look alike but are used in at least my mod to allow you to distinguish between the modded units and the units.

	12-06-2003 23:26									#25
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We'll see how much space there is, and poll the remaining CtP units for the unassigned numbers. Most of them should get in.

	12-06-2003 23:41									#26
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it’s a shame we could not set up some kind of mod swapper for lets say 50 unit spaces and let people use them as they like.

	14-06-2003 20:03									#27
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I've updated with WAW included.

quote: Originally posted by stankarp Shall do.:-)

Which block did you use? I need to know where I can replace the WW2 units to that Dale just ousted If you haven't done yet, then 168-175 (+177) would be better I think, so we can keep all the WW2 units together.

	15-06-2003 05:19									#28
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Hi IW,

I havnt done it yet, will use 141-149.

I will be doing about 7 sprites for my Medieval period expansion later this year.

I envisage trebuchet, mameluke, fuedal cavalry, jannissary, paladin, foot knight and a foot raider as well as using the samurai sprite.

	16-06-2003 02:10									#29
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quote: Originally posted by stankarp Hi IW, I havnt done it yet, will use 141-149.

Please don't World At War and the spare WW2 sprites are there at the moment.

	16-06-2003 16:55									#30
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Ok, 168 to 175 then.

I have WAW downloaded, are you sure WAW are there?