02-06-2003 21:12									#61
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You asked them to leave, yes. They didn't. You kept asking and trying to cut a deal. It was a sad state of affairs for Spain. You didn't "invade" anything.

	02-06-2003 21:18									#62
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 You asked them to leave, yes. They didn't. You kept asking and trying to cut a deal. It was a sad state of affairs for Spain. You didn't "invade" anything.

Actually we were criticized for acting far too quickly. And yes we did invade that little rock. What a liar you are.. I provide photographic evidence and you still deny it. You are one of the biggest liars here.

	02-06-2003 21:19									#63
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The Macedonian question?

We made them change their name flag and constitution and are completely dependant on us.


In time, when the Albanians will be a majority we'll do a second name change and then live in peace with one another like we have done so far.

	02-06-2003 21:23									#64
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So, when are you kicking the turks out of your territory?

	02-06-2003 21:23									#65
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You were laughed at by the whole of Europe for saying pretty please a thousand times and not doing anything. You finally managed to cut a deal and "invaded" what was already preordained. It was a veritable fiasco and sadly a bad precedent for Spain.

	02-06-2003 21:31									#66
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Pakky cakes, what kind of stupid crap have youbeen reading? That is pretty much a stupid and wrong thing to say. As you are always wrong, you are wrong again. You know nothing about that part of the world. I suggest you stop commenting on it.

We didn't cut any deal, cheap ****, we invaded when they didn't leave.

	02-06-2003 21:43									#67
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So Patty-cakes, are you saying that Spain should have nuked Morocco rather than engage in negotiation?

	02-06-2003 21:48									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Hanson So Patty-cakes, are you saying that Spain should have nuked Morocco rather than engage in negotiation?

Well the negotiations didn't work out. So we sent troops to the island.. invading it...



Spanish Soldiers invading the island.. look at that G-36...

(http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Isl...ter_a_de_Marina)

	02-06-2003 21:51									#69
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I'm afraid that isn't so Fez.

For what's worth I was saddened that the EU didn't back you up although after your disgraceful submission to the capture of that isle I can't say I minded. Since you didn't.


Paul Hanson, you should give Gibraltar back to the Spanish.

	02-06-2003 21:52									#70
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Not my decision. And the Gibraltans are happy the way things are.

	02-06-2003 21:53									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Fez No they haven't. The contract to upgrade the F-4s and F-5s is still going through with the Israelis.

Upgrading F-4s and F-5s. That's mind-boggling.

Why would anyone bother upgrading F-4s???

And F-5s? Put it this way, the Canadian Armed Forces got rid of their F-5 20 years ago and that means the F-5s are really, really old.

	02-06-2003 21:54									#72
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You guys should stop arguing or the United States will come and b!tch slap all your little nations. Just kidding.

	02-06-2003 21:54									#73
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 I'm afraid that isn't so Fez.

I'm afraid that you are wrong again.

quote: For what's worth I was saddened that the EU didn't back you up although after your disgraceful submission to the capture of that isle I can't say I minded. Since you didn't.

Yes we did invade the island back again. That is what those pictures I been showing prove. Now you have the tendency of denying evidence even when it stares right at you in the face.

	02-06-2003 21:56									#74
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The "invasion" was a staged fiasco since before the spanish went to invade and then left after being told to do so by the Marocans.

After that, you kept asking them to leave for days and tried to cut a deal.
Europe made fun of you, and for that I'm saddened.

	02-06-2003 21:56									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Upgrading F-4s and F-5s. That's mind-boggling. Why would anyone bother upgrading F-4s??? And F-5s? Put it this way, the Canadian Armed Forces got rid of their F-5 20 years ago and that means the F-5s are really, really old.

Well the Turks figured that the Greeks have them too.. so upgrading wouldn't be a problem. And if they are upgraded they are okay.. not the greatest but okay. Like a MiG-21.. upgraded to Israeli standards.

	02-06-2003 21:56									#76
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Tingai, they can't afford anything better.

	02-06-2003 21:58									#77
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The "invasion" was a staged fiasco since before the spanish went to invade and then left after being told to do so by the Marocans.

No it wasn't. We very well stayed there you little arrogant person.

http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Isl...ia_Civil

quote: After that, you kept asking them to leave for days and tried to cut a deal. Europe made fun of you, and for that I'm saddened.

You are so stupid. We invaded them and kicked them out.

That is what that one photo above shows. A Civil Guard agent with some nice sunglasses, deporting a Moroccan soldier.

	02-06-2003 21:59									#78
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You went there to kick them out and your forces left after being told so by the Marocans. After that you waited and cut a deal after many days of negotiations and being scared after Marocans started to stage rallies againsgt you.


Appeasement in other words.

	02-06-2003 22:01									#79
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 You went there to kick them out and your forces left after being told so by the Marocans. After that you waited and cut a deal after many days of negotiations and being scared after Marocans started to stage rallies againsgt you.

No we didn't. What kind of POS newspaper have you been reading? Our forces stayed there and expelled all the Moroccans there.



You little arrogant *****..

	02-06-2003 22:01									#80
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 After that, you kept asking them to leave for days and tried to cut a deal. Europe made fun of you, and for that I'm saddened.

what a quality troll

	02-06-2003 22:02									#81
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It's not a troll unfortunately.

	02-06-2003 22:03									#82
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 It's not a troll unfortunately.

It is a bald headed lie.

	02-06-2003 22:04									#83
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No, your forces didn't stay there. You went there and then were told to leave and you did so. After many days of negotiations you cut a deal and went there again to the staged invasion for which you worked for days.
The isle was under Marocan control for a long periodof time while all you did was to ask them to leave and hold talks with their gov.

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And I am indeed sad that Europe didn't back you up. I'd expected better from it. Not only that but they laughed at you.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Tingai, they can't afford anything better.

Talk about throwing good money after bad.

The Turks have got F-5s and F-4s. The Greeks have F-16s and Mirage 2000s. Geez, I wonder who would win.

	02-06-2003 22:09									#86
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Tingkai: turkey has F-16s, also.

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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 No, your forces didn't stay there. You went there and then were told to leave and you did so. After many days of negotiations you cut a deal and went there again to the staged invasion for which you worked for days. The isle was under Marocan control for a long periodof time while all you did was to ask them to leave and hold talks with their gov.

Yes they did stay there. Man what the **** is wrong with you?

	02-06-2003 22:13									#88
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quote: And F-5s? Put it this way, the Canadian Armed Forces got rid of their F-5 20 years ago and that means the F-5s are really, really old.

Alas, platforms are becoming less and less relevant in aerial combat.

	02-06-2003 22:15									#89
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Double Penetration.

	02-06-2003 22:16									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Talk about throwing good money after bad. The Turks have got F-5s and F-4s. The Greeks have F-16s and Mirage 2000s. Geez, I wonder who would win.

Greek Airforce:
Mirage 2000: 49
Mirage F1: 24
F-16s: 125
F-5: 95
F-4: 97
A-7 Corsair: 91

And some others

Turkish Airforce:
F-16s: 200
F-4s: 207
F-5s: 161

And some others

http://www.mylima.com/airforce