03-06-2003 00:59									#31
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I guess people are forgetting about the two mobile labs that were discovered that never appeared on the list handed over to the UN inspectors by Iraq...

Plus, there is still a lot of the the country that hasn't been checked out yet... So there is still a chance that the proof of WOMD will be found...

While I will wait to see what the facts will eventually show, it seems like many people don't really care and have made their minds up already

I'm not saying that they will find something to satisfy people... I'm just going to give them a legitimate chance to find it. For all you know... the evidence may have been removed from the country before the war even started... Iraq sure had plenty of warning about the war...

Yeah... they may all be lying polilticans... but I will wait for proof of it

	03-06-2003 00:59									#32
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Once George wanted Saddam's head on a pole
and little Tony played his poodle role
about weapons of horrors was their cry
now it's plain that was a fat lie
so the poodle is in one deep hole

	03-06-2003 01:01									#33
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"they may all be lying polilticans... but I will wait for proof of it. "

Their lips are moving, aren't they?

	03-06-2003 01:01									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I guess people are forgetting about the two mobile labs that were discovered that never appeared on the list handed over to the UN inspectors by Iraq... Plus, there is still a lot of the the country that hasn't been checked out yet... So there is still a chance that the proof of WOMD will be found...

That's one issue, but not the issue. They said they know a lot about Saddam's weapons, they gave a lot of details (like Blair's 45 minute notice). As they can't even find one shred of that after weeks now, it's clear they lied. At best they had no clue.

	03-06-2003 01:02									#35
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT Their lips are moving, aren't they?

Good point

	03-06-2003 01:35									#36
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quote: that doesn't even rhyme.

It doesnt have to .. its Art

	03-06-2003 01:38									#37
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Question: What does it matter?

I know that we said there was stuff over there, but what if there isn't? What will happen? Will someone go to UN jail? Will there be sanctions placed on the US? What!?

	03-06-2003 01:43									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I guess people are forgetting about the two mobile labs that were discovered that never appeared on the list handed over to the UN inspectors by Iraq...

Given that that:

a. No materials at all were found on the labs
b. materials and equipment that would be crucial to making them successful bio-lab facilties have neither been found(if they exist at all);

All that can be done now is to say that for ONE (just one) of the claims made, there seems to have been evidence.

NOw they just have to prove a dozen or more claims, you know, the important ones.

	03-06-2003 01:44									#39
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Mobile labs, shmobile labs... the reports I've seen have said that they haven't found a trace of even one pathogen.

	03-06-2003 01:45									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Question: What does it matter? I know that we said there was stuff over there, but what if there isn't? What will happen? Will someone go to UN jail? Will there be sanctions placed on the US? What!?

Well, the point f this thread is that Tony might, if things get ugly in the next few months (and nothing trully is found), lose his job. (Aznar is probalby on the way out too), meaning that the next time Bush decides to go to war,states will be much less willing to join, if the claims to that war are based on 'US intelliegence'.

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quote: Originally posted by Azazel that doesn't even rhyme.

IN that case neither does the Jack and Jill nursery rhyme.

Crown rhymes with down.
Lying rhymes with laughing.

Wheres the problem?

	03-06-2003 01:53									#42
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lying also rhymes with Republican

	03-06-2003 01:56									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Sava lying also rhymes with Republican

No it doesn't.

	03-06-2003 01:58									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Sava lying also rhymes with Republican

Come on Sava... you've been warned not to turn EVERY thread into an anti republican thread...

There are more than enough threads on that already...

	03-06-2003 02:03									#46
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quote: you've been warned not to turn EVERY thread into an anti republican thread...

I have?

I guess now I have. Don't worry though Ming. It's just a harmless little troll.

	03-06-2003 02:07									#47
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quote: It's just a harmless little troll.

Yeah, that's how we all think of you

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"any idea from our British friends how Tony is doing in the polls?"

He's been swinging about awfully. 40% approval one month, 65% the next. I'd give it a few months before we can get a reliable picture of what this whole affair has done to his standing.

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quote: Originally posted by Sava I have? I guess now I have. Don't worry though Ming. It's just a harmless little troll.

Come on Sava, give me a kiss.. And we can forget about it...

Hehehhe..

BTW.. That little harmless troll needs some work...

	03-06-2003 02:09									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Yeah, that's how we all think of you

and I'm proud of my standing...

	03-06-2003 02:13									#51
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Fez... weren't you warned to stop your little pissing matches with Sava... Quoting Sava in your last two posts tells me that you haven't taken my warning very seriously...

Stop it.. or be restricted.
And Sava... thankyou for ignoring his jabs.

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Carry it on lads.

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It's okay Ming. But Fez is just playing around. We have a new-found friendship. Enough of this threadjack though.

I have a question for our British posters:
Has Tony Blair taken much heat for apparantly switching his primary political allegiance? I've heard that Blair had sort of "switched sides". Any truth to this?

	03-06-2003 02:18									#54
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Hey Ming, I like Sava and I agreed to stop insulting him... or throwing bad words at him.

And yes I did take your warning seriously.

Back to the topic.. I'll refrain from posting in this thread for the time being.

	03-06-2003 02:19									#55
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quote: Has Tony Blair taken much heat for apparantly switching his primary political allegiance? I've heard that Blair had sort of "switched sides". Any truth to this?

He isn't the typical Labour leader. He'd be quite good as a Tory leader. Without Blair though, Labour wouldn't be in power.

	03-06-2003 02:21									#56
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Forgive my ignorance, but could you briefly explain Labour and Tory partisanship. Or compare them to American politics.

thanks

	03-06-2003 02:22									#57
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Without the Tories, Labour wouldn't be in power.

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quote: Originally posted by Japher Question: What does it matter? I know that we said there was stuff over there, but what if there isn't? What will happen? Will someone go to UN jail? Will there be sanctions placed on the US? What!?

It matters in regards to whether these politicians get re-elected. Nothing else, but thats important enough as it is.

	03-06-2003 02:26									#59
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Labour - centre-left, led by a centre-right guy. Traditionally the party of trade unions and harder left.

Toryies - Conservatives, don't have a clue where they stand as it changes by the day - should theoretically be right-wing. Their latest ploy, however, was to criticise tuition fees for undergrads, a policy also supported by the...

far left Liberal Democrats. A strange allegiance there.

Basically Labour have grabbed the Tories best policies and left the Tories floundering without a clue. The Lib Dems have always had useless leaders and ineffective policies (naturally, as far left wingers).

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Republicans - between Tories and BNP
Democrats - between Tories and Labour
Green Party - between Labour and Lib Dem

For a similar party to Lib Dem, you'd have to find a Socialist/Communist party or something..