02-06-2003 23:13									#1
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Things are starting to get hot for Mr Bliar.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Stor...,968597,00.html

Personally, I'd like to see the smarmy **** shot; but I'll settle for his resignation and disgrace.

I said that the Tories would wait until they could find some way of leveraging his unpopularity over the war without coming over as anti-American. It looks like that's started.

	02-06-2003 23:20									#2
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According to the Guardian, anyway.

	02-06-2003 23:23									#3
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That's what Short says.

	02-06-2003 23:24									#4
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And the Beeb, and the Torygraph.

What's important here is not that Bliar has been naughty, but that the Tories have signalled they may break with him if he doesn't produce proper evidence. Now it seems plain to me that he hasn't got any: so it will be an uncomfortable time for Tony, since the majority of the house will oppose him on this one.

	02-06-2003 23:24									#5
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Anybody who thinks the Guardian is a reliable news source has problems.

Especially an arrogant commie.

	02-06-2003 23:26									#6
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They haven't even had a inquiry yet... and it all rests on the word of an "unnamed intelligence source"... and you want him shot... Maybe you should wait until there is actually a little "proof"...



I think your biases are showing...

	02-06-2003 23:29									#7
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You know Ming.. seeing how Agathy praises Fidel Castro I think he should keep quiet when talking about other leaders.

	02-06-2003 23:29									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Ming They haven't even had a inquiry yet... and it all rests on the word of an "unnamed intelligence source"... and you want him shot... Maybe you should wait until there is actually a little "proof"...

I wanted him shot long before the war. And there is more to it than an unnamed intelligence source - two cabinet ministers have accused him of lying to cabinet.

quote: I think your biases are showing...

So (finally) are the British Tories'.

	02-06-2003 23:31									#9
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I'd assume the Tories are just maneuvering to get something out of Blair, nothing more.

	02-06-2003 23:32									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Fez You know Ming.. seeing how Agathy praises Fidel Castro I think he should keep quiet when talking about other leaders.

My sig tells anyone all they need to know about your credibility.

	02-06-2003 23:33									#11
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat I'd assume the Tories are just maneuvering to get something out of Blair, nothing more.

Yes, it's called "power".

	02-06-2003 23:37									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon My sig tells anyone all they need to know about your credibility.

First off, I don't stand by the first quotation anymore. And secondly anybody who does call me a fascist is wrong. And thirdly, arrogant people do have the right to protest.

So I got a lot more credibility than you do.

	02-06-2003 23:40									#13
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Well if they don't look at my sig they'll look at yours.

	02-06-2003 23:43									#14
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Clare Short

She works for the "let's have Gordon Brown as Prime Minster so I might have a political future after all" group.

Robin Cook is rather more credible. The Guardian isn't.

	02-06-2003 23:49									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Well if they don't look at my sig they'll look at yours.

The quote of Dwight D. Eisenhower is highly respectable to have in my signature.

	02-06-2003 23:50									#16
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV The Guardian isn't.

More credible than any of Murdoch's trash.

	02-06-2003 23:50									#17
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Fez and Agathon... just stop you imature little signature cat fight... Or I will stop it, and you won't like how I do it.

	02-06-2003 23:51									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Fez and Agathon... just stop you imature little signature cat fight... Or I will stop it, and you won't like how I do it.

No fight. Just pointing some things out.

	02-06-2003 23:53									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Fez and Agathon... just stop you imature little signature cat fight... Or I will stop it, and you won't like how I do it.

god, ming, you're awfully verbose today. just say "WHO WANTS A PIECE OF THE ROD?!?!"

wait, dont. that will only entice Fez more.

	02-06-2003 23:59									#20
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Seems to me the oh-so-lame weapons of mass destruction casus belli will no longer be used. With any luck we'll be back to obviously staged border incidents and the like.

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quote: Originally posted by Ming They haven't even had a inquiry yet... and it all rests on the word of an "unnamed intelligence source"...

Wasn't that the justification for the war? Oh wait, we know most of the crap came from Chalabi.

	03-06-2003 00:16									#22
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quote: · Falsely telling the cabinet and the world that Jacques Chirac, the French president, would veto a second UN security council resolution authorising war. The transcript of Mr Chirac's interview, which she subsequently read, showed the prime minister's claim to be wrong.

What does this mean? Did Chirac not threaten to veto the resolution?

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quote: Originally posted by gsmoove23 What does this mean? Did Chirac not threaten to veto the resolution?

He certainly did threaten to do so...

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IIRC, Blair claimed Chirac would veto a second resolution under any circumstances. That was a play with words - Chirac only made it clear he would veto it at the moment, a qualifier that Blair left out. So it was a halftruth.

	03-06-2003 00:25									#25
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any idea from our British friends how Tony is doing in the polls?

	03-06-2003 00:26									#26
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Gee, a politician using a half truth... what a surprise...



Yeah... let's just shoot him...

	03-06-2003 00:32									#27
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I think the bald-faced lie that WMD seems to be turning into is much more damaging.

	03-06-2003 00:40									#28
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Apparently, it's a lot worse for the US president to lie about a sex affair than about "proofs" which are supposed to be the reason for a war.

There is something wrong here, don't you think ?

	03-06-2003 00:41									#29
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Tony and George went up on the Hill,
To start a war by lying,
Tony fell down,
And lost his crown,
But George just sat there laughing.

	03-06-2003 00:48									#30
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that doesn't even rhyme.