19-07-2003 08:31									#241
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Why -- why for God's sake did someone revive this thread?

There were important points to be made about Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

	19-07-2003 08:32									#242
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger There were important points to be made about Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

oh, ok -- nuf said

	19-07-2003 18:35									#243
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I want a pagan-esque type marraige, up by some cliffs with torches.


















Then come the sacrifices...

	19-07-2003 20:13									#244
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Boris: CS Lewis has a different answer to this observation, that people have a law written on the heart from their conscience that transcends barriers of society. He calls this moral agreement the Tao and is generally cited in favour of a universal and not societal morality the fact that there is agreement between disparate societies. Society can't be the answer if these people all come from different cultures and come up with the same answers.

Too bad CS Lewis wasn't an anthropologist or cultural historian.

Society can be the answer if basic moral tenets that seem to be universal spring from observed natural social tendencies. A lot of what we consider to be "good behavior" is observable in our cousins, primates. Goodall has documented that chimps behave in ways we would consider "moral" within their social group. Do you think Lewis would accept there being a Tao for chimps?

It is pretty obvious that certain moral behaviors are condusive to a society, and certain are bad for it. No supernatural "Tao" or anything else need explain why it's best that a society prevent one from killing or harming another, or taking another's possessions forcibly, etc. Fanciful notions of supernatural working have no evidence.

Of course, we also have to explain why the Tao didn't hold for some societies. Were the Aztecs simply not human?

	21-07-2003 03:48									#245
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The Chinese are pretty much like other people (sorry, can't speak for ALL Asians) except they tend to try to fvck their kin more since it's culturally unacceptable to ever mention what happens in the home (i.e. rape is still ALWAYS the woman's fault, no matter what).

Actually, it's a lot like the Appalachians, except everybody speaks a variant of Chinese instead of Southern.

Incidentally, as of 1998, Chinese women are now legally entitled to receive up to (max) a 6th grade education!

We's movin' on UP! We still gotta drown baby girls, though.

	21-07-2003 08:05									#246
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin The Chinese are pretty much like other people (sorry, can't speak for ALL Asians) except they tend to try to fvck their kin more since it's culturally unacceptable to ever mention what happens in the home (i.e. rape is still ALWAYS the woman's fault, no matter what).

On mainland China, the Communist party outlawed marriage between people of any blood relation closer than three generations (so you could marry somebody if their relation to you was thrice removed or more). I don't know what the situation is in Taiwan but given their progressive nature I'd imagine it's pretty much the same.

The Chinese do have some catching up to do as far as sexuality (especially homosexuality) is tolerated, but I don't think incest or rape is condoned in any civic region.

Of course, if you're talking about the undeveloped Chinese hinterland, then I suppose anything goes. Rather like the hinterlands of Britain, America, and Canada to name a few nations I've observed first hand.

quote: Incidentally, as of 1998, Chinese women are now legally entitled to receive up to (max) a 6th grade education! We's movin' on UP! We still gotta drown baby girls, though.

In the cities, high school education has become privatised as the state-funded school system falls by the wayside. The legal injunction you mention above is probably not going to be around much longer. It will either be replaced by a "state pays all" universal ruling, or disappear entirely into an "every taxpayer for themselves" ruling.

And that comment about baby girls is something the government has been strenuously trying to discourage for a very long time. In the agrarian boondocks, though, where farm labor is cherished and all family budgets are very tight, it's hard to force impoverished families to keep babies they don't want. Don't get the impression that this applies to cities, though. With the notable surplus of men in the cities, a well-appointed girl can fetch a very high dowry these days.

I was offered a Mercedes, a maid, and a time share villa by a guy in Chengdu if I'd consent to be his mistress.

I'll leave it up to your imagination what came of that business proposal.

	21-07-2003 08:10									#247
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quote: I was offered a Mercedes, a maid, and a time share villa by a guy in Chengdu if I'd consent to be his mistress. I'll leave it up to your imagination what came of that business proposal.

You became his mistress? I hope so; hell, I probably would've done the guy in exchange for the maid.

	21-07-2003 09:00									#248
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 im afraid to his mind greek just means anal sex so there you have it.

You mean there is another meaning?

	21-07-2003 09:03									#249
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quote: Originally posted by Alinestra Covelia I was offered a Mercedes, a maid, and a time share villa by a guy in Chengdu if I'd consent to be his mistress. I'll leave it up to your imagination what came of that business proposal.

So do you think Mercedes is overrated, or are you happy with it?