08-06-2003 20:54									#1
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It was illegal to be a man..then it was wrong to be white...now you're shunned if you are straight. See this.

quote: Ministers will propose homosexuals should get the same tax, pension and property rights as married couples provided they register their relationships in a new-style civil ceremony. The government is, however, expected to provoke controversy by denying the same rights to unmarried heterosexual couples in long-term relationships. It will fuel claims that the government is pandering to the gay lobby.

Blatant discrimination against the majority yet again. How long will our once-great nation put up with this.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...-706439,00.html

	08-06-2003 20:59									#2
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didnt nazis think they were victims of the minority jews?

	08-06-2003 21:01									#3
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quote: These plans are promoting counterfeit marriage. Two old ladies who had lived together for 40 years, for example, would have to pretend to be lesbians to benefit from the changes

	08-06-2003 21:02									#4
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I actually mostly agree with you on this. If unmarried gay life-partners are allowed those privileges then unmarried straight life-partners should be allowed them too. To do otherwise is just plain wrong.

	08-06-2003 21:04									#5
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anyone who wants to announce a union shuold be able to do so (and get full rights)

wether it is hetero, gay, or even non-sexual

my only problem with Bods example is the faking, they should be able to say that they are linked without pretending that there is something sexual occuring

also I would think that long term Hetero couples shuold get the benefits even if not married

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The solution is simple: allow gay marriages.

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I thought that was what they were doing.

	08-06-2003 21:16									#8
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That can never be a solution to anything. The thought is despicable.

	08-06-2003 21:17									#9
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There's an obvious answer to negate any form of unbalance. Allow gay marriage.

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Laz: Great minds (You & GePap) must think a like.

	08-06-2003 21:21									#11
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You know, if you just allowed gay people to get married instead of having to jump through this hoop of "equal yet not equal" civil unions then there would be no problem. Married couples would get pension, tax, etc benefits while people just living together wouldn't have their situation changed.

Or we could get rid of the institution of marriage all together and allow any long term couple to register their life union down at the local government office and leave the extravagance of the marriage ritual to those who want more of a display.

Heterophobia? If the government was heterophobic, John Prescott would do drag while Tony Blair and Gordon Brown snuck off to make out in the corner of the Commons. The Queen on our money would be Boy George. No, it's the fear of latent homophobia is Middle England voters that made the government adopt this halfway measure.

No to civil unions! No to being equal yet seperate! No to being granted privlages instead of having rights! Yes to marriage, plain simple marriage, for gays and straights!

	08-06-2003 21:23									#12
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Laz: Great minds (You & GePap) must think a like.

I doubt Laz appriciates that comment...

quote: That can never be a solution to anything. The thought is despicable.

Then bear the consequences of your limited mind.

	08-06-2003 21:25									#13
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	08-06-2003 21:25									#14
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Gay marriage should of course be allowed. To be honest I'm surprised that it isn't already. That really sucks. What kind of backwards society are we living in anway? Bleh!

	08-06-2003 21:26									#15
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True liberty is equal rights for all. Anything less is Hitlerism. When it comes to social views particularily this one I am not conservative, more towards the center.

	08-06-2003 21:29									#16
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bods just wants to ***** and moan and pretend like he has something to be righteous about. the thing is hes just an ordinary white guy from the UK who has nothing going for him so he has to adopt a cause that he feels empowers himself.

seriously though, he whines about heteros being treated unfairly but then whines about homosexuals get the same treatment heterosexuals with allowing marrige.

	08-06-2003 21:31									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's It was illegal to be a man

Well, you've got no worries there then.

quote: Originally posted by Boddington's ..then it was wrong to be white

Yeah, but for you it's wrong to be any other colour and live in the UK.

quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Blatant discrimination against the majority yet again. How long will our once-great nation put up with this.

WTF are you talking about?

Straight people have to go to a registry office and get a certificate of mariage to get these rights. Now gay people can do the same.

What discrimination? You're just angry that gay people can have the same rights you can.

Do us a favour Bods. Move to Austria.

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I don't see by allowing gay marriage.. how this will infringe on the rights of heterosexuals.. I don't see how it is possible and why such an inference would be made. So you are absolutely right MRT (I thought I never say that) about Boddy.

	08-06-2003 21:35									#19
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People if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, & quacks like a duck: what is it? I can not believe that you are getting all worked up over the fact that it isn't called what you would like. Yes, I'm looking at you Starchild.

	08-06-2003 21:39									#20
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dino, the problem is people like bods are now *****ing that heterosexual couples are getting robbed of something because of this. that somehow heterosexual partners should be able to have the same thing as homosexuals even though the homosexual version isnt as equitable as heterosexual marriges.

	08-06-2003 21:41									#21
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Bodd's, do you think that one day it will be illegal not to be severely physically handicapped?

	08-06-2003 21:42									#22
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quote: Ministers will propose homosexuals should get the same tax, pension and property rights as married couples provided they register their relationships in a new-style civil ceremony. The government is, however, expected to provoke controversy by denying the same rights to unmarried heterosexual couples in long-term relationships. It will fuel claims that the government is pandering to the gay lobby.

Wait a second...how is the government denying the same right to unmarried heterosexual couples, when they have the right to get married? They can get all these benefits if they get married! Which is essentially what the gays have to do! What's the difference, Bods?

If you deny gays the right to marry, but set up a separate system wherein gays can have unions, but then so can straight people, isn't that just...silly? I mean, straight people already have the means of a union...marriage! So how are straight people being oppressed by this?

	08-06-2003 21:44									#23
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bods is just a sorry sod bigot

	08-06-2003 21:45									#24
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he's funny

and on occasions like this he's just mocking you guys

he's just a student having fun

	08-06-2003 21:46									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 dino, the problem is people like bods are now *****ing that heterosexual couples are getting robbed of something because of this. that somehow heterosexual partners should be able to have the same thing as homosexuals even though the homosexual version isnt as equitable as heterosexual marriges.

NOT TRUE AT ALL.

If those hetero couples CANNOT BE BODDERED to go to a registry office and get hitch they deserve to be shafted on these rights issued.

If gay people have the same right of a legal ceremony giving them the same rights as hetero couples, HOW CAN THAT BE DISCRIMINATION?

The problem here is that those hetero couples are bone idle and/or ignorant. They think that by shacking up for 6 months that gives them "common law marriage" status.

It's time they learned the facts - and if they want their rights, get there lazy backsides down to the office and get hitched.

If they ignore the state, why shouldn't the state ignore them?

	08-06-2003 21:47									#26
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Actually, Bunnygrrl and I would rather have a civil union than a marriage.

	08-06-2003 21:49									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion he's funny and on occasions like this he's just mocking you guys he's just a student having fun

if hes just mocking us, he could keep it simple and not waste his time, or our time in these kind of ridiculous posts. the fact he goes to the effort as much as he does leads me to believe he sincerely believes what he says.

	08-06-2003 21:50									#28
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Actually, Bunnygrrl and I would rather have a civil union than a marriage.

thats cause youre crazy pinko commies

	08-06-2003 21:51									#29
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hmmm... he is a little twisted , and some people that know him in real say he's the same there...

	08-06-2003 21:53									#30
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc People if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, & quacks like a duck: what is it? I can not believe that you are getting all worked up over the fact that it isn't called what you would like. Yes, I'm looking at you Starchild.

Cause it's a mallard instead of a duck? If it has all the rights of marriage, why not simply call it marriage? Why call it "civil unions", a term that drips with the implied notion of "pretend marriage for those people". A special catagory created by fiat can just as easily be uncreated. Instead of being included in a centuries old tradition that acknowledges long term relationships as an important part of society, we're getting a bone thrown to us.

They're the legal and social equivalent of having seperate drinking fountains for blacks and whites. Both dispense water but that's not the point.

And frankly, I want to get married one day. I don't want to be civil unionised. Yeah, civil unions are a step forward but they're not the goal.