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Do we go for Poly asap?
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cavebear
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of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:28
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At this point, I think we are so far from getting Monarchy through research that I think our best option is to go ahead popping huts. We have the units to find many of them, and the AI is running out of crappy techs to give us.
Personally, I suspect the AI has decided that it has given us too many units and too much gold, and that it has reverted to techs.
Looking at the tech chart, the only second column techs left are mathematics, feudalism, mysticism, and polytheism. I don't think (just a guess) it will award feudalism, as monarchy is a prerequisite, though I'd be delighted to put pikesmen in our cities in place of warriors. And I'd be glad to have it give us polytheism for the elephants and because that would allow us to choose a new tech to research and might include monarchy (in which case we would give full attention to research).
My preference is to keep popping huts. When you're in a hole, you might as well dig for gold... 
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Sparrowhawk
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Canada CST
Apr 1999
time: 23:28
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I think that all are worried too much about that fact that we have not yet gotten Monarchy, while it may be late to be getting it I agree, I am confident we will soon to be finding it from a hut.
Ironically, knowing that Invention stops "Scrolls of Ancient Wisom" actually works to our advantage here.
Methinks that popping huts can only result in one of Mathematics, Bridge Building, Trade, Engineering, Mysticism, Polytheism, or Monarchy.
While I admit past history suggests that Poly and Monarchy will be 6th and 7th in that list , I think it makes sense to continue popping huts (and trading with any new civs we find if we do) to try and get monarchy by huts rather then research, as the best way for us to increase our research is by getting into monarchy (Sparrowhawk states the obvious).
To answer the poll more directly, we need to save what we have researched, in case we get Polytheism from a hut, so that we can get Monarchy all that much quicker.
Just my two cents.
Sparrowhawk
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cavebear
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of the Pleistocene
Oct 1999
time: 00:28
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But do you really think we have the prerequisites for 93 techs? I don't. I think it will look at columns of techs and tend to provide them in that general order.
Now, might it be set so that some some techs are less likely to be given? Yes. But I don't have evidence of that.
I do note, though that it has given us all the first column techs and most of the second column techs, and only a couple of the third column techs. And one fourth. That does not suggest random gifts of any and all techs for which the requisites are met.
We have 7 of 7 of the first column, 7 of 11 of the 2nd column, 2 of 10 of the 3rd column, and 1 of 9 of the 4th column. I'll bet it backfills to complete the 2nd column before offerring much of the 3rd and 4th (or beyond).
I even suspect there is a pattern here.
Last edited by cavebear on 09-06-2003 at 09:58
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Six Thousand Year Old Man
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Ad Rock
Aug 2000
time: 00:28
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quote:
Originally posted by cavebear
But do you really think we have the prerequisites for 93 techs? I don't. I think it will look at columns of techs and tend to provide them in that general order. |
Read the thread again. We don't need the prerequisites for 93 techs. The placement of the techs we do have prerequisites for in the list of 93, determines the probability of them appearing in a hut.
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Now, might it be set so that some some techs are less likely to be given? Yes. But I don't have evidence of that.
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Well, I just provided evidence, which was researched by a guy who is pretty well thought of here, in terms of his understanding of Civ2.
There's no evidence to say that huts 'backfill' techs from older columns, on the other hand.
I mean, if we want to keep popping huts, we'll keep popping huts. And perhaps we'll get Monarchy, although Mathematics is 5 times more likely, and Trade 4 times more likely and Bridge/Engineering 3 times more likely.
I just wouldn't bet on it
@ atawa - samson stated, later on in the thread, that he tested a few times on MGE to confirm there was a correlation.
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09-06-2003 04:37
I knew that.
If the testing is correct then we have a 2:5 or 40% chance of getting tech from a hut, and when we get the next tech it will be math. As long as we have the NONE setler then our prob of scrolls outcome stays 40% and the next tech for discovery would be monarcy. Even if this does not prove true it takes far less turns to pop 4-5 huts than to research monarchy.
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