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Inverse Icarus
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flying too low to the ground
May 2001 time: 00:28
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if you've listened to my various rants over the years, you most likely think i'm something of a communist, or perhaps a fascist, maybe a jigoistic american imperialist, or just generally a racist inconsiderate bastard. Now, some of that may have been trolling and the like, some of that might have been the real me, but I'd like some honest opinions here.
I am mainly a Socialist at heart. whatever nominclature you choose to assign to that is your call. I simply believe that social and political equality cannot be achieved without economic equality.
Now, thats highly debatable, but thats what i believe. so take it as you will. I simply believe that the rich have much more power than the common man in america, and i despise that fact with my very being. i see rich people somehow getting off the hook over and over again, whenever they get into trouble. i see the rich people runing thosands of lives and getting off nearly scott free (enron). politics is simply a rich man's game.
this has led me to a conclusion, which has gotten me much trouble in my little politically involved group of friends, which is simply that america may be called a democracy (or republic, if you will), people may be able to elect their leaders, but we are far from the "equality" that we appear to praise above all. i simply believe that the american government is a plutocracy, a government by the rich. i have coied the term in my little group, "a generious plutocracy", where the ruling rich upper class gives us whatever liberties and rights we want, so long as we do not infringe on their business too much.
again, this will be debated and torn to pieces by one side, and built up by another, but again, this is what i believe.
the problem is, the simpliest "argument"against anything like that, anything that badmouths america, is "if you don't like it, you can go someplace else". the sad thing is, this is the best that we have. even though i sit here and become disgusted by the huge gaps between rich and poor, and complain about how the rich seem to do whatever they want and get off, my life is good. there are no warlords killing millions of people. no major civil wars claimig civilians. i do not fear my government. and that, it appears, is enough for most people, enough for me.
so, here i am, loathing the system i exist in, but happy that i exist in it. i'm sickened by the very country i love.
now, that was deep, for me anyway, which leads to a little mroe shallow a problem, defining myself a clear ideology. i've just goe through life professing to be a communist, because it was an attention getter, the word makes people listen. Socialist doesnt have the same kick, but thats another discussion.
capitialism just seems, to me anyway, to go against everything america professes to stand for. to quote NoFx, "When one makes twenty million, ten thousand others lose".
i could go on and on, at length, on both why i am a socialist, and why i love america with all of my heart. am i wrong in doing so?
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Worthingtons
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Pride Park,Derby
Jan 2002 time: 05:28
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Yes, but you cany deny that many make wealth due to the loss, and exploitation of others. It's the damn Fat Cats at the Top!! taking home 6 and even 7 figure salaries!! While others are on the Poverty line!!
These days companies whole existance depends on capitalising on the fears and weaknesses of other people, i mean take glutein free foods, some people over here who have an allergy to this are already poor but have to pay huge prices just to eat, while the owner of the company making it LIVES in the Savoy Hotel.
There is a massive lack of Equality, the poor are kept poor on the whole, and the Rich will be more ruthless by the day to keep hold of thier power and wealth.
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JohnT

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Capitalist
Mar 1999 time: 00:28
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The names have been changed to expose the ludicrous
I too was thinking about the other ways you can plot humanity on a graph, the great Bell Curves that affect and separate humanity. From the race curve that goes from darkest to lightest (or vice versa), to the wealth curve that goes from poorest to richest, to the coolness curve that goes from dorkiest to suaviest. Like many, I tried to find a group that it made a lot of sense to hate, and to, somehow, "get rid of" for the betterment of society.
And then I found it: the group that, if I were to argue for the eradication of the top 1% of, would benefit humanity from the great trickle down effect that would arise from their elimination:
Caloric consumers.
If we just eliminated, by throwing them into concentration camps and re-educational facilities, the top 1% of all fat people, we would save enough grain and meat to feed the bottom 15%, easily. The next time you see some 280 pound guy waddling home with a large Supreme pizza with extra-cheese, think about the fact that one pie has enough calories to sustain a Somalian family for 3 days. NFL teams would go back down to a more competitive weight, one where even guys like me can play.
This also prevents airliners and theaters from being improperly sued by people who's asses are too damned large for their single seats. Yes, aircraft seats are getting thinner, but we've also learned in the meantime that being large is no picnic for our health either - you've been supposed to have gotten skinnier along with the seats.
Most rich people are sickingly normal-weighted: too damned busy to eat, I guess. I doubt that my plan would put a damper on being rich, unless you own a lot of Conagra stock, or that one that always donates to the Repubs.
Therefore, in my world it's OK to be rich as long as you aren't fat! Who's with me!!!!????
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Giancarlo
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Apr 2000 time: 02:28
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Fez, would you mind backing up your statements, or are you going for the Bald Assertion Man title again? |
Yes.
"Cenda, the think-tank, also calculates the monthly cost of a Basic Goods and Services basket, which includes not just food, but also other basic consumption items like clothes, basic school supplies for kids, rent, medicines, electricity and water bills, the bare-bones basics for a modest but reasonable existence. By Cenda's reckoning, a family of five needs $665 a month to cover this basic basket. And what percentage of Venezuelan households earn $665 or more each month? A mere 6.4%. You read that right. After four years of revolutionary government for the poor, 93.6% of Venezuelans can't afford even the basics - a crushing indictment, if you ask me. "
So what? I was .4% off!
http://www.militaresdemocraticos.co...0030315-02.html
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