11-06-2003 23:18									#61
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NF: Predators&Profits
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=glance&s=books
But it aint great.

	11-06-2003 23:20									#62
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I, Robot by Issac Asimov, along with The New Historical Baseball Abstract by Bill James.

I just finished Selected Stories of Philip K. ****.

	11-06-2003 23:23									#63
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quote: here's two more books in the series, Endymion and (I think) Rise of Endymion. Excellent story.

So I've heard, but a friend told me that Endymion and Rise of Endymion are more on the ripoff scale of novels; that is, Fall of Hyperion wraps things up nicely and the rest are somewhat inferior to the first two books. But I'll probably check out Endymion and see if it's going anywhere. The Hyperion universe is very fascinating.

	11-06-2003 23:30									#64
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well i was reading Peter Ackroyd's "london: a biography" (non-fiction) im interested in the topic but found Ackroyds approach annoying - good thing its a library book.
I took a glance at Stirling's "Island in the Sea of Time"(fiction) - I'll either buy it or borrow it.
I'm starting a Gershom Sholem book on the Messianic idea in Judaism (non-fiction)- interesting, but not exactly a pageturner
Took a glance at Luttwak's "Strategy"(non-fiction) looks like something that would be excellent for all us civers.
And of course have reserved a copy of Harry Potter book 5 (fiction) from the local bookstore - for my daughter - but I'll read it after she's through with it.

	11-06-2003 23:33									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Eli One of the least interesting books I ever read.

i read it years ago - recall liking it, but no particular urge to reread it.

	11-06-2003 23:36									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion is Svejk really that good? my parents and grand parents love it

wasnt that the source for the opera Wozzeck(sp?)?

	11-06-2003 23:47									#67
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oh, yes, i finished barker's galilee, as well recently.

	12-06-2003 03:30									#68
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quote: Originally posted by self biased i just finished neil gaiman's american gods[i]. over all i think it's an intersting take on the concept, and a rather nice twist at the end.

I read that recently and liked it a lot. It had one major fault, imo; a lack of plot. A lot of the story was just learning about people, about the gods.

I also thought there wasn't enough lead up to Shadow's cellmate. You couldn't possibly guess his importance in the story.

	12-06-2003 03:44									#69
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I'm reading:

Inherit the Earth by Brian Stableford.

Seems intersting so far, but I'm only about 70 pages into it.

If I get 70 pages into a book, I can usually finish it.

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	12-06-2003 03:49									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay Sir Ralph, is Baudolino any good? Eco is my favorite writer, but I refuse to plunk down 27$ US for a new hardcover book. I 've heard mixed reviews on this particular title.

It's a true Eco, if you love his style, you can safely buy it. History of the crusades mixed with conspiracy theories and a lot of mystery. May be a bit too much Mysticism, but that depends on your gusto. I got an awful sunburn last year on Crete and had to stay in the shadow for a week. I read Baudolino in one part, from begin to end.

quote: Foucault's pendulum by Eco (my favorite book)

This one is awesome! That you like it, is even visible in your nickname.

	12-06-2003 04:00									#71
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Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. JK Rowling gets better with every new book she writes.

	12-06-2003 04:07									#72
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quote: [SIZE=1]uh Clem, something I wanted to ask you for ages... is that shrub?

Yep. From a photo last winter, with Kofi Annan.

	12-06-2003 04:07									#73
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I'm reading (browsing through is more like it) a biography of Charles XII I found in a bargain bin.

	12-06-2003 05:06									#74
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Needing to earn my avatar, I am reading Thus spoke Zarathustra, which I had never read before.

	12-06-2003 05:20									#75
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"The Complete Jack the Ripper" by Donald Rumbelow

"Tower of Babel" by Robert T. Pennock

"A Study of History" (abridged, sadly) by Alfred J. Toynbee

	12-06-2003 06:08									#76
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1984, though i must admit i never seem to find time to just sit and read a book these days. i spend too much time on the computer

	12-06-2003 06:11									#77
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"Executive Orders" -- Tom Clancy...

pretty decent so far, Jack Ryan (of course) is made president after a plane crashes into the Capitol and kills Congress, the Joint Chiefs, the President, his cabinet, the Supreme Court, and a lot of the secret service. The book deals with how Jack is rebuilding the government.

	12-06-2003 06:15									#78
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How could a plane do all that?

	12-06-2003 06:15									#79
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If the one bullet could do that to Kennedy and Connolly...

	12-06-2003 06:18									#80
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quote: pretty decent so far, Jack Ryan (of course) is made president after a plane crashes into the Capitol and kills Congress, the Joint Chiefs, the President, his cabinet, the Supreme Court, and a lot of the secret service. The book deals with how Jack is rebuilding the government.

You are going to hate it by the end Sava . Just a clue, but you know Tom Clancy is very right wing, right?

quote: How could a plane do all that?

During the State of the Union.

	12-06-2003 06:25									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui During the State of the Union.

Nope, someone's always not there for that very reason. Which means that Jack Ryan could be that someone. What position did he hold then?

	12-06-2003 06:32									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui You are going to hate it by the end Sava . Just a clue, but you know Tom Clancy is very right wing, right?

Yeah, he's a Reagan ass-licker... it bothers me, but I'm not about to boycott somebody because of their politics *COUGHDIXIECHICKS*

	12-06-2003 06:43									#83
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quote: Nope, someone's always not there for that very reason. Which means that Jack Ryan could be that someone. What position did he hold then?

He was a cabinet member.

quote: it bothers me, but I'm not about to boycott somebody because of their politics *COUGHDIXIECHICKS*

I own all three of their CDs?

And I'm pretty sure you boycott Rush Limbaugh because of his politics .

	12-06-2003 06:48									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui He was a cabinet member.

no, the vice-president resigned because of a sex scandal and Ryan agreed to become Vice President until the end of the term

quote: I own all three of their CDs?

I wasn't referring to you... I was referring to the "boycott the dixie chicks" movement

quote: And I'm pretty sure you boycott Rush Limbaugh because of his politics .

Rush doesn't have any products that interest me... If Rush wrote sci-fi novels, or anything else that interested me, I probably would buy his stuff if I enjoyed it.

	12-06-2003 06:52									#85
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quote: no, the vice-president resigned because of a sex scandal and Ryan agreed to become Vice President until the end of the term

That COULDN'T be it! Veep is President of the Senate, so it obligated to be there at the State of the Union. He was just made a Cabinet Minister, IIRC, and was GOING to be the Veep.

	12-06-2003 07:01									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: no, the vice-president resigned because of a sex scandal and Ryan agreed to become Vice President until the end of the term That COULDN'T be it! Veep is President of the Senate, so it obligated to be there at the State of the Union. He was just made a Cabinet Minister, IIRC, and was GOING to be the Veep.

Dude, I'm reading the book now... it's very clear. Ryan was the National Security Advisor, but accepted the role as VP, and within a few hours, the plane hit.

	12-06-2003 07:01									#87
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Blue Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson, the last in his trilogy.

In the Clancy books it is kind of funny that Jack Ryan gets all the way from a office guy in the Dept. of State to President because of terrorism (THE BOMB IS IN PLAY!!! )

	12-06-2003 07:03									#88
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quote: Dude, I'm reading the book now... it's very clear. Ryan was the National Security Advisor, but accepted the role as VP, and within a few hours, the plane hit.

Yeah, it is clear... he was a CABINET MINISTER. Accepting the role doesn't mean a damned thing unless you are confirmed by the Senate (for a vacancy). IIRC, the State of the Union was about this... though I may be off a bit.

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quote: Originally posted by Odin In the Clancy books it is kind of funny that Jack Ryan gets all the way from a office guy in the Dept. of State to President because of terrorism (THE BOMB IS IN PLAY!!! )

IIRC, Ryan is just the character than Clancy likes to use. But it's weird, he doesn't necessarily follow a linear path.... i.e. the Ryan in Sum of All Fears wasn't the same Ryan in any of the other movies/books. It's the same character put in different situations.

	12-06-2003 07:08									#90
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quote: Originally posted by Sava IIRC, Ryan is just the character than Clancy likes to use. But it's weird, he doesn't necessarily follow a linear path.... i.e. the Ryan in Sum of All Fears wasn't the same Ryan in any of the other movies/books. It's the same character put in different situations.

Yes it was the same character.

Not in the movies but in the book he is the same.

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