15-06-2003 00:46									#1
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Yup.

I would like to do a Dictator III sceanrio for ToT.

I done the early versions of my mental WW2 scenario on ToT, thn switched to moer user-happy MGE.

But I have been tempted to to a ToT ersion again, using all the new units, city and icon graphics...
With the massive events, tons o' extra units and fun features of ToT, it could royally rock.

Sadly there are about 3 ToT player world-wide, and I am one of them.

Is there any point?

Please answer my poll so I can gauge if it is worth spending my precious life-hours over.

Thanks!

	15-06-2003 07:57									#2
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I think you should do it if YOU want to. If you would enjoy making it and playing it, then you should. Personally, the greater potential and challenges of ToT are more attractive than the somewhat greater audience of FW/MGE. (Remember, it's still a pretty small group. Civ2 threads attract a fraction of the traffic that the Civ3 ones do.)

	15-06-2003 15:21									#3
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Like techumseh said, if you would enjoy making it and playing it, then you should.
Well, I'd like to play Dictator III.

	17-06-2003 19:47									#4
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I would certainly like to see more ToT scenarios out there.
By the way, I count four players including me.

	18-06-2003 07:42									#5
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It's a fun designing platform. Allows for a lot more creativity. The audience appears to be actually growing (or at least players who bought it years ago are dusting it off). Unfortunately, many players outside of the US don't have a cheap legal way to get it.

Btw, I believe the list of ToT owning posters includes MagyarCrusader, fairline, JCG, Case, our_man, The ANZAC, Cal, Angelo Scotto, Jullee_L, Hydey, Alinestra Covelia, Alex Woehr, Mercator, Dr Kellogg, Darth Veda, and possibly techumseh.

Still, the bottom line remains as techumseh states.

	18-06-2003 08:14									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Boco ...and possibly techumseh.

	18-06-2003 17:39									#7
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and me, i still play ToT scenarios... sometimes...
I still download new MGE scenarios too but more for look at the sounds and graphics than the scenario itself

As techumseh said, you should do it if YOU want to

	21-06-2003 03:34									#8
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Hope you decide to do it, I much prefer TOT with the additional units and events. I enjoyed your previous TOT scenarios a lot. Keep up the good work.

	21-06-2003 17:28									#9
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7 votes!

Well that is almost worth spending a week or two of my life on!

I will perhaps give it a go...
The honourable techumseh is correct, a scenario is a labour of self-indugence.

I'll dust off my copy of ToT and get started soon!

	27-06-2003 00:24									#10
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whats the scenario about?

	27-06-2003 01:35									#11
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark whats the scenario about?

It's about WorldWar 2. Have a look at Dictator for MGE...

	28-06-2003 00:55									#12
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ISTR theres only one WW2 scen designed for TOT, and thats Europe only, right?

	28-06-2003 01:14									#13
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You should definatly go for it Curt

	30-06-2003 17:34									#14
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I don't visit the ToT forum much Curt, so this is probably too late. Anyhow, in answer to you question, yes definitely; we can use all the ToT scenarios going, especially quality ones as I'm sure yours will be.

I'm very much a late convert to ToT; I bought it when it was released but found the sprites awful and the interface confusing. I played the vanilla game once before consigning it to the 'games I wish I'd never bought' box for several years until Techumseh released Roman Civil War. All the initial purchase served to do was temporarily rekindle a dormant interest in Civ II (something which Civ III has also managed to do within the last year or 2!) I had missed the superb potential of ToT and I hadn't realised those godawful sprites could be replaced by civ II-type static units. All those extra unit slots and the much larger and better events capabilty make it a quantum leap over civ 2. Then there's the largely untapped potential of the additional levels within each scenario (how about a scenario with underwater/land/air levels?). On the downside, the movement and missing battle animation is a niggle, and that interface is still less accessable than civ2, but these are small prices to pay. If only more people had it......

	02-07-2003 00:55									#15
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quote: theres only one WW2 scen designed for TOT, and thats Europe only, right?

With my own WW2 scenario (World - scenario in french) i know there's at least 2 others scenarios

-Dictator II from CurtSibling (World - Civfanatics for download)
-Europe In Flames from Michael Jeszenka (Europe - Craddle of Civ for download)

I'm sure someone have write here or at Civfanatics forums he had converted lots of MGE scenarios to ToT but i don't remember who have write this and if he had converted WW2 scenarios

	02-07-2003 00:58									#16
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fairline is right on, its a shame more people don't have and play TOT, as its the best version of Civ. Curt please do it, as I really liked your previous scenarios for TOT.

	08-07-2003 03:20									#17
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do it I'm getting ToT soon

	08-07-2003 19:36									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Eyn With my own WW2 scenario (World - scenario in french) i know there's at least 2 others scenarios -Dictator II from CurtSibling (World - Civfanatics for download) -Europe In Flames from Michael Jeszenka (Europe - Craddle of Civ for download)

Europe in Flames was what i was thinking of.

	08-07-2003 19:38									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Eyn I'm sure someone have write here or at Civfanatics forums he had converted lots of MGE scenarios to ToT but i don't remember who have write this and if he had converted WW2 scenarios

that was me (well unless someone else also posted the same thing) - but no, the only WW2 scen was "pacific war" (?) but i think ive since deleted it.

	28-07-2003 19:43									#20
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Not sure if this is too late, but PLEASE make Dictator III for ToT!!! It would be great to have a WWII scenario utilizing all the cool ToT features (like "invisible until attack", impassible terrain, etc.) Although it is less user-friendly to make scenarios using ToT, in the end you can make a better scenario. I think there are more ToT players out there than we realize.....

	19-08-2003 19:50									#21
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:doitnowictator 3 now

	29-08-2003 15:08									#22
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Me is playing ToT!
Due to the lack of good scenarios for it, I would very much like to see a Dictator III for ToT

	03-09-2003 01:20									#23
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ToT is a great great game that sadly gets little attention. I (Moff Jerjerrod) have enjoyed playing Dictator I and Dictator II with great relish. I would be more than happy if a Dictator III was to come out.

If time permits I'd even participate in playtesting. Good luck in whatever you do Curt!

	21-09-2003 13:52									#24
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Well I am working on a new MGE version of Dictator.

So once I have all the graphics ready for it, I will finish DIII for ToT.

You see, I have already converted it and and it just awaits some finihsing touches...

	12-01-2005 23:02									#25
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Is it finished yet?